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#1 K1LLSWITCH
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Will "Oblivion" hit the PS3?
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#2 ColoradoKindBud
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It is PC & 360 only at this time.
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#3 blazealot420
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i doubt it but it would be cool especially with blu ray
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i doubt it but it would be cool especially with blu ray blazealot420


I am so confused about Blu-Ray.... What exactly does it do??
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i doubt it but it would be cool especially with blu ray blazealot420


I am so confused about Blu-Ray.... What exactly does it do??

He's saying that it would be cool to put a game that doesn't exceed the size limit of a DVD disc on a Blu Ray disc that does exceed that size for no reason.
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[QUOTE="erikers"][QUOTE="reelbigfish"]
i doubt it but it would be cool especially with blu ray blazealot420


I am so confused about Blu-Ray.... What exactly does it do??

He's saying that it would be cool to put a game that doesn't exceed the size limit of a DVD disc on a Blu Ray disc that does exceed that size for no reason.



The Fanboys are vicious tonight. Anyway. To answer your question. Blu-Ray is a new disc format developed by Sony working with several other companies (including Apple, HP, and bunch of other electronics companies, I can't remember them all). All the games for the PS3 (and movies in the future--depending on the outcome of the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD format war) will be published in this format. The max capacity of a Dual Layer DVD-9 that the 360 uses is 9 Gigabytes. The max capacity of a Dual Layer Blu-Ray is 52 Gigabytes (25.somethingGB single layer). The Elder Scrolls games have always been very big. Lots of stuff, good graphics, and massive worlds. The entire game could be bigger and better on a Blu-Ray disc, rather than a DVD-9. And the Blu-Ray also contributes to the resolution. It takes a good chunk of space to develope a game in 1080p.
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#7 Moto19
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I like the idea of Blu-ray just don't see it's use yet...anyways Oblivion isn't coming to the PS3 most likely ever. 
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The blu ray does nothing for the PS3 other than allow them to fit more information on one disk.  So basically rather than have 2 seperate dvd's you'll get one blu ray.  It does nothing for graphics other than allow a 1080p display which no tv's use or will use for years.  The blu ray will do nothing for ps3,  it is just more hype.

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#9 daveg1
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who knows?
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#10 Vince910
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The blu ray does nothing for the PS3 other than allow them to fit more information on one disk.  So basically rather than have 2 seperate dvd's you'll get one blu ray.  It does nothing for graphics other than allow a 1080p display which no tv's use or will use for years.  The blu ray will do nothing for ps3,  it is just more hype.

lordseer

I think your wrong there...with more room sony will be able to fit better graphics onto the disc...better graphics more room needed. same thing with sound, size and length of game

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#11 lordseer
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You can do the same thing with 2 dvd's.  You are simply talking about space.
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You can do the same thing with 2 dvd's.  You are simply talking about space.lordseer


point taken, but more space can also result to more features.
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#13 WESTSIDECALI
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360 and pc only
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So Bethesda (i think thats the company that makes ES-Oblivion) is a first party microsoft title? If it isn't, it is possible for it to come to the PS3 isn't it? If you don't have a loyalty contract to a specfic company such as microsoft, then it is a HUGE marketing failure to ignore such an anticipated console like the ps3. Not saying the xbox360 wasn't anticipated. Any gaming company would know that selling their game on more consoles, means more profit. I'm just not sure if the makers of ES-Oblivion are first party game producers for Microsoft.
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So Bethesda (i think thats the company that makes ES-Oblivion) is a first party microsoft title? If it isn't, it is possible for it to come to the PS3 isn't it? If you don't have a loyalty contract to a specfic company such as microsoft, then it is a HUGE marketing failure to ignore such an anticipated console like the ps3. Not saying the xbox360 wasn't anticipated. Any gaming company would know that selling their game on more consoles, means more profit. I'm just not sure if the makers of ES-Oblivion are first party game producers for Microsoft.dimebagforever

No, they are not.  It was originally going to be for PS3, 360 and PC.  Later (according to TES forums) was said that they were dropping PS3 for lack of a HDD.  Now that the 360 doesn't have one standard (the core) I wonder what the excuse is :D $$$$$$$$$$

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The blu ray does nothing for the PS3 other than allow them to fit more information on one disk. So basically rather than have 2 seperate dvd's you'll get one blu ray. It does nothing for graphics other than allow a 1080p display which no tv's use or will use for years. The blu ray will do nothing for ps3, it is just more hype.

lordseer


I have a 1080p TV and I'm not from the future...
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#17 sneaky_petey
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Yeah you are.
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The blu ray does nothing for the PS3 other than allow them to fit more information on one disk.  So basically rather than have 2 seperate dvd's you'll get one blu ray.  It does nothing for graphics other than allow a 1080p display which no tv's use or will use for years.  The blu ray will do nothing for ps3,  it is just more hype.lordseer

How is that for an ignorant statement? :D  1080p sets have been on sale for months now :roll:  And blu-ray has more capacity and speed than DVDs, also more interactivity than DVDs will ever have.  Read up before you post stuff like this, makes you look dumb :D

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#19 mojokm
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And blu-ray has more capacity and speed than DVDs

Thanos_of_MW


THERE'S the factor! More speed means faster loading times.
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You can do the same thing with 2 dvd's. You are simply talking about space.lordseer


in JRPGs or linear games...yes...in open ended games where you often backtrack or just roam freely around the whole gameworld, changing discs become a real problem. I really don't seem myself playing GTA and then needing to change discs while driving on a road each time i pass a certain point.
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#21 Kwzy
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PS3 doesn't need Oblivion!!!

have you seen the RPG's coming to PS3???

Japanese RPG..... they look AWESOME

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project offset looks cooler to me
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#23 juicetino
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hopefully it will
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blu-ray also is faster than a dvd or hd dvd
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In this day and age when there is a time and place for better technology, the cost goes up. And for the developers to fit a game on more than one disc might get too expensive. Look at nintendo with the N64. Their games were $80 a pop because it costed the developer more to make the games, friggin cartridges. With blu-ray, bigger space, less money to put into it for that space. Sony is pushing the envelope with technology right now. And I respect them for it, unlike X-box all they care about is their hardware and not focus on software. And unfortunatly people are buying that mentality. It's sad, but true. And as for anime style games, Sony does need oblivion. Sony needs something fresh and new besides a new final fantasy game, or a new dragon quest. I for one am tired of playing grand theft autos or burn outs. I believe that with the PS3, there will be better and fresh games. I'm hoping that they remake wipeout for the PS3.
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xbox 360 game
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[QUOTE="dimebagforever"]So Bethesda (i think thats the company that makes ES-Oblivion) is a first party microsoft title? If it isn't, it is possible for it to come to the PS3 isn't it? If you don't have a loyalty contract to a specfic company such as microsoft, then it is a HUGE marketing failure to ignore such an anticipated console like the ps3. Not saying the xbox360 wasn't anticipated. Any gaming company would know that selling their game on more consoles, means more profit. I'm just not sure if the makers of ES-Oblivion are first party game producers for Microsoft.Thanos_of_MW

No, they are not.  It was originally going to be for PS3, 360 and PC.  Later (according to TES forums) was said that they were dropping PS3 for lack of a HDD.  Now that the 360 doesn't have one standard (the core) I wonder what the excuse is :D $$$$$$$$$$

Core isn`t the standard, the Premium is. And on the Premium box it doesn`t say premium just Xbox 360. At least I cant see "Premium" printed on the box, can you? : http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/56DA078D-93A8-4E9C-8E9F-E40E6B59D073/0/SGRProSku.jpg

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[QUOTE="Thanos_of_MW"]

[QUOTE="dimebagforever"]So Bethesda (i think thats the company that makes ES-Oblivion) is a first party microsoft title? If it isn't, it is possible for it to come to the PS3 isn't it? If you don't have a loyalty contract to a specfic company such as microsoft, then it is a HUGE marketing failure to ignore such an anticipated console like the ps3. Not saying the xbox360 wasn't anticipated. Any gaming company would know that selling their game on more consoles, means more profit. I'm just not sure if the makers of ES-Oblivion are first party game producers for Microsoft.ScaryMovies

No, they are not. It was originally going to be for PS3, 360 and PC. Later (according to TES forums) was said that they were dropping PS3 for lack of a HDD. Now that the 360 doesn't have one standard (the core) I wonder what the excuse is :D $$$$$$$$$$

Core isn`t the standard, the Premium is. And on the Premium box it doesn`t say premium just Xbox 360. At least I cant see "Premium" printed on the box, can you? : http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/56DA078D-93A8-4E9C-8E9F-E40E6B59D073/0/SGRProSku.jpg



and ? They are still forced to make the game work on the core ones. So the HDD excuse doesn't work anymore.
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#29 ScaryMovies
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I was just stating the fact that the Premium is the standard, and the Core not...
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#30 Thanos_of_MW
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[QUOTE="Thanos_of_MW"]

[QUOTE="dimebagforever"]So Bethesda (i think thats the company that makes ES-Oblivion) is a first party microsoft title? If it isn't, it is possible for it to come to the PS3 isn't it? If you don't have a loyalty contract to a specfic company such as microsoft, then it is a HUGE marketing failure to ignore such an anticipated console like the ps3. Not saying the xbox360 wasn't anticipated. Any gaming company would know that selling their game on more consoles, means more profit. I'm just not sure if the makers of ES-Oblivion are first party game producers for Microsoft.ScaryMovies

No, they are not.  It was originally going to be for PS3, 360 and PC.  Later (according to TES forums) was said that they were dropping PS3 for lack of a HDD.  Now that the 360 doesn't have one standard (the core) I wonder what the excuse is :D $$$$$$$$$$

Core isn`t the standard, the Premium is. And on the Premium box it doesn`t say premium just Xbox 360. At least I cant see "Premium" printed on the box, can you? : http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/56DA078D-93A8-4E9C-8E9F-E40E6B59D073/0/SGRProSku.jpg

I have to disagree.  If the company is mandating ALL games to work in the "core" and not use the HDD, then the "core" is the STANDARD.  They can advertise in their boxes however they want, the fact remains.  Don't buy into the marketing :D

Anyways, I don't want this to become an off-topic discussion.  We were talking about Oblivion in PS3.  There is absolutely NO REASON in the hardware to prevent Oblivion from working in PS3.  I'll certainly give Bethsoft some lip in their forums (I belong to those forums for many years) if they don't give me a good reason for not releasing it in PS3.

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The blu ray does nothing for the PS3 other than allow them to fit more information on one disk.  So basically rather than have 2 seperate dvd's you'll get one blu ray.  It does nothing for graphics other than allow a 1080p display which no tv's use or will use for years.  The blu ray will do nothing for ps3,  it is just more hype.

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1080p exists. expensive yes but they do exist and blue ray movies will be available in guess what....1080p.

most of us don't have 1080p but ps3 will give a reason to upgrade with its ability to display at higher levels, and guess what game developers want to tout themselves in the best posible light so guess what they will make games that run 1080p because they can.

    This whole higher technology is bad argument is really getting annoying, since when is it a bad thing to have more power than you can use? 720p seems to be the standard right now but 1080p is coming so if you can make a system that can handle it why not do it (oops that's what microsoft did so sorry didn' mean to cut on it) come on ask any pc gamer what res they run at and they will say as high as thier system allows, and ask how much they spend to get there. scary huh????  alot of people spend money to get the best so it may take a while but 1080p will be commonplace well before x360 or ps3 are replaced so don't say blu ray and 1080p are useless features.

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#32 Xanog1
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Maybe, but I'm getting the PC version.

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[QUOTE="dimebagforever"]So Bethesda (i think thats the company that makes ES-Oblivion) is a first party microsoft title? If it isn't, it is possible for it to come to the PS3 isn't it? If you don't have a loyalty contract to a specfic company such as microsoft, then it is a HUGE marketing failure to ignore such an anticipated console like the ps3. Not saying the xbox360 wasn't anticipated. Any gaming company would know that selling their game on more consoles, means more profit. I'm just not sure if the makers of ES-Oblivion are first party game producers for Microsoft.Thanos_of_MW

No, they are not. It was originally going to be for PS3, 360 and PC. Later (according to TES forums) was said that they were dropping PS3 for lack of a HDD. Now that the 360 doesn't have one standard (the core) I wonder what the excuse is :D $$$$$$$$$$



I suspect that they figure very FEW XBOX 360 owners will not eventually acquire a HDD.  Most of the people buying a core right now appear to be buying them because that is all they can find. They are willing to buy the HDD seperately if is required for future games. On the PS3, however, Sony hasn't made it very clear how they plan on handling the HDD issue. Besides, assuming that the PS3 is not READILY available for another year, they would probably want to focus their PS3 efforts on their NEXT games (the "widely available" PS3 might miss the Oblivion lifetime window). Even if they did launch it for the PS3, it in all likelihood would not be much different from either the PC or the 360 version.
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i wish it would come to ps3 but..i doubt it...its never been so..why now? i would definately get it if its announced magically before the pc version hits stores though!
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[QUOTE="erikers"][QUOTE="reelbigfish"] [QUOTE="blazealot420"]i doubt it but it would be cool especially with blu ray the_bi99man


I am so confused about Blu-Ray.... What exactly does it do??

He's saying that it would be cool to put a game that doesn't exceed the size limit of a DVD disc on a Blu Ray disc that does exceed that size for no reason.



The Fanboys are vicious tonight. Anyway. To answer your question. Blu-Ray is a new disc format developed by Sony working with several other companies (including Apple, HP, and bunch of other electronics companies, I can't remember them all). All the games for the PS3 (and movies in the future--depending on the outcome of the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD format war) will be published in this format. The max capacity of a Dual Layer DVD-9 that the 360 uses is 9 Gigabytes. The max capacity of a Dual Layer Blu-Ray is 52 Gigabytes (25.somethingGB single layer). The Elder Scrolls games have always been very big. Lots of stuff, good graphics, and massive worlds. The entire game could be bigger and better on a Blu-Ray disc, rather than a DVD-9. And the Blu-Ray also contributes to the resolution. It takes a good chunk of space to develope a game in 1080p.

Morrowind was huge too, and did not even fill half a 4.7 GB dvd, now Oblivion will definatly esily fit on a 7GBd dvd. Blu-ray is not needed as it seems. It is more a video thing, if you have big videos then Blu-ray is ideal, if you have no vids like in Oblivion is not needed at all

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#36 nasos_333_basic
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PS3 doesn't need Oblivion!!!

have you seen the RPG's coming to PS3???

Japanese RPG..... they look AWESOME

Kwzy

By the way, no i have not seen aa single rpg yet, and no pics of any of those. So where do we see those new pics from ps3 rpg's ??? I would love to have a link or website, because all i have seen from ps3 is a MGS4 trailer, which is suposdly rendered with real in game engine. Nothing else

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[QUOTE="erikers"][QUOTE="reelbigfish"] [QUOTE="blazealot420"]i doubt it but it would be cool especially with blu ray the_bi99man


I am so confused about Blu-Ray.... What exactly does it do??

He's saying that it would be cool to put a game that doesn't exceed the size limit of a DVD disc on a Blu Ray disc that does exceed that size for no reason.



The Fanboys are vicious tonight. Anyway. To answer your question. Blu-Ray is a new disc format developed by Sony working with several other companies (including Apple, HP, and bunch of other electronics companies, I can't remember them all). All the games for the PS3 (and movies in the future--depending on the outcome of the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD format war) will be published in this format. The max capacity of a Dual Layer DVD-9 that the 360 uses is 9 Gigabytes. The max capacity of a Dual Layer Blu-Ray is 52 Gigabytes (25.somethingGB single layer). The Elder Scrolls games have always been very big. Lots of stuff, good graphics, and massive worlds. The entire game could be bigger and better on a Blu-Ray disc, rather than a DVD-9. And the Blu-Ray also contributes to the resolution. It takes a good chunk of space to develope a game in 1080p.

Oblivion is only using 1 Xbox 360 DVD disk.

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So what, will you fill me in on the PS3's rpg, and where are those pics that will make me forget Oblivion and Blue Dragon on xbox 360 ?

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[QUOTE="lordseer"]

The blu ray does nothing for the PS3 other than allow them to fit more information on one disk. So basically rather than have 2 seperate dvd's you'll get one blu ray. It does nothing for graphics other than allow a 1080p display which no tv's use or will use for years. The blu ray will do nothing for ps3, it is just more hype.

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I think your wrong there...with more room sony will be able to fit better graphics onto the disc...better graphics more room needed. same thing with sound, size and length of game



Its kind of simple really the more room available the bigger and potentialy better games will become larger worlds, more sound effects/music on games, and generaly good things.

Then i read the above post and realised someone had already put this, damn i must pay more attention to these things!
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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"] [QUOTE="erikers"][QUOTE="reelbigfish"] [QUOTE="blazealot420"]i doubt it but it would be cool especially with blu ray CaptainCrazy



I am so confused about Blu-Ray.... What exactly does it do??

He's saying that it would be cool to put a game that doesn't exceed the size limit of a DVD disc on a Blu Ray disc that does exceed that size for no reason.



The Fanboys are vicious tonight. Anyway. To answer your question. Blu-Ray is a new disc format developed by Sony working with several other companies (including Apple, HP, and bunch of other electronics companies, I can't remember them all). All the games for the PS3 (and movies in the future--depending on the outcome of the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD format war) will be published in this format. The max capacity of a Dual Layer DVD-9 that the 360 uses is 9 Gigabytes. The max capacity of a Dual Layer Blu-Ray is 52 Gigabytes (25.somethingGB single layer). The Elder Scrolls games have always been very big. Lots of stuff, good graphics, and massive worlds. The entire game could be bigger and better on a Blu-Ray disc, rather than a DVD-9. And the Blu-Ray also contributes to the resolution. It takes a good chunk of space to develope a game in 1080p.

Oblivion is only using 1 Xbox 360 DVD disk.

How so?

I heard that the sound took up half the disk.

There is no way that a game can have next-gen graphics, contain amazing physics, lighting, and textures, have in-game cutscenes, have the ability to render 16 miles of environment on the fly, have a constantly evolving world, provide the ability for the amount of detail in create-a-character as shown so far, have all of the attacks and spells in the game, and animate all the thousands of enemies and npcs on the fly, with less than half of a DVD disk and still not be problem-ridden.

Not saying that Oblivion won't be good (in fact it'll own, which is why I'm getting it for PC), but I don't see how all the rest of the content can be fit onto 1 disc without compressing it to the max and having massively long loading times, or potential file confusion.

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not coming for ps3 sorry
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[QUOTE="CaptainCrazy"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"] [QUOTE="erikers"][QUOTE="reelbigfish"] [QUOTE="blazealot420"]i doubt it but it would be cool especially with blu ray Xanog1



I am so confused about Blu-Ray.... What exactly does it do??

He's saying that it would be cool to put a game that doesn't exceed the size limit of a DVD disc on a Blu Ray disc that does exceed that size for no reason.



The Fanboys are vicious tonight. Anyway. To answer your question. Blu-Ray is a new disc format developed by Sony working with several other companies (including Apple, HP, and bunch of other electronics companies, I can't remember them all). All the games for the PS3 (and movies in the future--depending on the outcome of the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD format war) will be published in this format. The max capacity of a Dual Layer DVD-9 that the 360 uses is 9 Gigabytes. The max capacity of a Dual Layer Blu-Ray is 52 Gigabytes (25.somethingGB single layer). The Elder Scrolls games have always been very big. Lots of stuff, good graphics, and massive worlds. The entire game could be bigger and better on a Blu-Ray disc, rather than a DVD-9. And the Blu-Ray also contributes to the resolution. It takes a good chunk of space to develope a game in 1080p.

Oblivion is only using 1 Xbox 360 DVD disk.

How so?

I heard that the sound took up half the disk.

There is no way that a game can have next-gen graphics, contain amazing physics, lighting, and textures, have in-game cutscenes, have the ability to render 16 miles of environment on the fly, have a constantly evolving world, provide the ability for the amount of detail in create-a-character as shown so far, have all of the attacks and spells in the game, and animate all the thousands of enemies and npcs on the fly, with less than half of a DVD disk and still not be problem-ridden.

Not saying that Oblivion won't be good (in fact it'll own, which is why I'm getting it for PC), but I don't see how all the rest of the content can be fit onto 1 disc without compressing it to the max and having massively long loading times, or potential file confusion.

Are you working on the game ? Otherwise how the HELL do you know how much space Oblivion takes up ??? By the way, if they were to cut back on graphics to fit it, they would rather cut back on sound quality, which will do if does not fit than make the game look terrible instead. How about that, it makes more sense, right ?

They said it will have the pc graphics at the highest setting, so they are not cutting ANYTHING from the graphics because of the smaller storage space. I hope i did not dissapoint you, but visit the official forums and see the truth. It is simple, the game can fit in DVD9, no compromises made

The most important thing is that if Oblivion can fit nicely on a DVD9 then i can think of no game that could not.

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The blu ray does nothing for the PS3 other than allow them to fit more information on one disk. So basically rather than have 2 seperate dvd's you'll get one blu ray. It does nothing for graphics other than allow a 1080p display which no tv's use or will use for years. The blu ray will do nothing for ps3, it is just more hype.

lordseer

Allready is 1080P tv's.
Get a life, or at least follow the news
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#44 hurd05
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http://joystiq.com/2006/01/08/bethesda-crowds-oblivion-onto-one-disc/

Sure, Oblivion can be "squeezed" onto one dvd, which is impressive.  but in the future games will get more detailed, have more features, and be longer (few will be longer though).  i doubt FF on PS3 will be able to be sqeezed onto one dvd.  Expect multiple dvd games in microsofts future.  Personally i never minded switching disks on GC, I just like blue-ray because if blue-ray does win the format war, PS3 owners will be ready to go.

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[QUOTE="Xanog1"][QUOTE="CaptainCrazy"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"] [QUOTE="erikers"][QUOTE="reelbigfish"] [QUOTE="blazealot420"]i doubt it but it would be cool especially with blu ray nasos_333_basic



I am so confused about Blu-Ray.... What exactly does it do??

He's saying that it would be cool to put a game that doesn't exceed the size limit of a DVD disc on a Blu Ray disc that does exceed that size for no reason.



The Fanboys are vicious tonight. Anyway. To answer your question. Blu-Ray is a new disc format developed by Sony working with several other companies (including Apple, HP, and bunch of other electronics companies, I can't remember them all). All the games for the PS3 (and movies in the future--depending on the outcome of the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD format war) will be published in this format. The max capacity of a Dual Layer DVD-9 that the 360 uses is 9 Gigabytes. The max capacity of a Dual Layer Blu-Ray is 52 Gigabytes (25.somethingGB single layer). The Elder Scrolls games have always been very big. Lots of stuff, good graphics, and massive worlds. The entire game could be bigger and better on a Blu-Ray disc, rather than a DVD-9. And the Blu-Ray also contributes to the resolution. It takes a good chunk of space to develope a game in 1080p.

Oblivion is only using 1 Xbox 360 DVD disk.

How so?

I heard that the sound took up half the disk.

There is no way that a game can have next-gen graphics, contain amazing physics, lighting, and textures, have in-game cutscenes, have the ability to render 16 miles of environment on the fly, have a constantly evolving world, provide the ability for the amount of detail in create-a-character as shown so far, have all of the attacks and spells in the game, and animate all the thousands of enemies and npcs on the fly, with less than half of a DVD disk and still not be problem-ridden.

Not saying that Oblivion won't be good (in fact it'll own, which is why I'm getting it for PC), but I don't see how all the rest of the content can be fit onto 1 disc without compressing it to the max and having massively long loading times, or potential file confusion.

Are you working on the game ? Otherwise how the HELL do you know how much space Oblivion takes up ??? By the way, if they were to cut back on graphics to fit it, they would rather cut back on sound quality, which will do if does not fit than make the game look terrible instead. How about that, it makes more sense, right ?

They said it will have the pc graphics at the highest setting, so they are not cutting ANYTHING from the graphics because of the smaller storage space. I hope i did not dissapoint you, but visit the official forums and see the truth. It is simple, the game can fit in DVD9, no compromises made

The most important thing is that if Oblivion can fit nicely on a DVD9 then i can think of no game that could not.

I was just basing that whole point upon what I heard about the devs saying the sound took up half the DVD. I'll see if I can find the link again.

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[QUOTE="nasos_333_basic"][QUOTE="Xanog1"][QUOTE="CaptainCrazy"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"] [QUOTE="erikers"][QUOTE="reelbigfish"] [QUOTE="blazealot420"]i doubt it but it would be cool especially with blu ray Xanog1



I am so confused about Blu-Ray.... What exactly does it do??

He's saying that it would be cool to put a game that doesn't exceed the size limit of a DVD disc on a Blu Ray disc that does exceed that size for no reason.



The Fanboys are vicious tonight. Anyway. To answer your question. Blu-Ray is a new disc format developed by Sony working with several other companies (including Apple, HP, and bunch of other electronics companies, I can't remember them all). All the games for the PS3 (and movies in the future--depending on the outcome of the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD format war) will be published in this format. The max capacity of a Dual Layer DVD-9 that the 360 uses is 9 Gigabytes. The max capacity of a Dual Layer Blu-Ray is 52 Gigabytes (25.somethingGB single layer). The Elder Scrolls games have always been very big. Lots of stuff, good graphics, and massive worlds. The entire game could be bigger and better on a Blu-Ray disc, rather than a DVD-9. And the Blu-Ray also contributes to the resolution. It takes a good chunk of space to develope a game in 1080p.

Oblivion is only using 1 Xbox 360 DVD disk.

How so?

I heard that the sound took up half the disk.

There is no way that a game can have next-gen graphics, contain amazing physics, lighting, and textures, have in-game cutscenes, have the ability to render 16 miles of environment on the fly, have a constantly evolving world, provide the ability for the amount of detail in create-a-character as shown so far, have all of the attacks and spells in the game, and animate all the thousands of enemies and npcs on the fly, with less than half of a DVD disk and still not be problem-ridden.

Not saying that Oblivion won't be good (in fact it'll own, which is why I'm getting it for PC), but I don't see how all the rest of the content can be fit onto 1 disc without compressing it to the max and having massively long loading times, or potential file confusion.

Are you working on the game ? Otherwise how the HELL do you know how much space Oblivion takes up ??? By the way, if they were to cut back on graphics to fit it, they would rather cut back on sound quality, which will do if does not fit than make the game look terrible instead. How about that, it makes more sense, right ?

They said it will have the pc graphics at the highest setting, so they are not cutting ANYTHING from the graphics because of the smaller storage space. I hope i did not dissapoint you, but visit the official forums and see the truth. It is simple, the game can fit in DVD9, no compromises made

The most important thing is that if Oblivion can fit nicely on a DVD9 then i can think of no game that could not.

I was just basing that whole point upon what I heard about the devs saying the sound took up half the DVD. I'll see if I can find the link again.

It has been discussed in forums that this does not stand any more. Anyway, the game will fit one, confirmed, so there is nothing to speculate, it has been confirmed the game will fit all pc stuff on one dvd

As for FF, yes i suppose this one game is fit for blu-ray, with huge high res videos making us cry with joy. But i never wanted videos over actual in game stuff, and Oblivion offers just that, and any other game the size of Oblivion will fit xbox's disks, with compromise only in pre-rendered videos, which are good, but not to die for.

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#48 slikonebtz
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elder scrolls isnt owned by microsoft so the devs will be missing out on a ton of money seeing as the ps3 user base will be a big one.

wouldnt surprise me if it came out on the ps3 at all

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Only 360, so everyone should just do the right thing and buy all fuking consoles!! Fanboys suk. evilbarbarian

Or I could just play the PC version like I've been planning all along.

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I agree. MIcrosoft has always been about money and not the games. They monopolized the computers, whose to say that they wont try for the gaming industry. It is the money maker. The gaming industry makes more money than the film industry. They blocked the browsers for computers. Now, they make people play online with their games. Thats non-sense. Most PC games dont charge people to play online why should console gamers. I feel that online should be free, if people want the bells and whistles thats when the subscription comes in. I feel thats what sony will do with the PS3. Gamers are able to play online without the special features. If you want those features people have to pay for them. I'm not talking about an e-mail account. File sharing with players, downloadable content, video confrencing, and an e-mail account. For players that dont want to have a subscription, they can buy the downloadable content at the nearest game store. With the PS3 I believe that its possible to have video conferencing. Imagine playing a mech game on the PS3 and being able to talk with picture in picture, communications would be interesting. Playstation has been known to start new franchises.... Im curious on whats in store in the future. Exciting.