Total War Shogun 2 is apparently 11.87 gb.

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#1 mhofever
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Saw the GamersGate store page of Shogun 2. It's 11.87 gb. Guess some of us are going to play it one day after :(.

http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-TWS2/total-war-shogun-2

There's no pre-load for both the GamersGate or Steam version.

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#2 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Could have sworn I just read that it was 20gb.

But no, unless you preload from Steam, or buy it retail, you probably won't be playing it day one.

As an aside, the Target up here had it on their yesterday AND today and wouldn't sell it to me. I thought there was a policy that if it's on the shelf they have to sell it, but I guess I was wrong.

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#3 pcgamer_07
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I can believe that but I actually thought it was going to be larger also like 20gb large somewhere I read. No preload, day one everyone downloading same time good luck. Hey good news though its not 20gb:P

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#4 illmatic87
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twice the size of the demo :P.
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#5 jedikevin2
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Thought it would be 20-24 gb at least considering the demo was 6 gb's.
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#6 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Just looked on Ebay, says the size of the DVD is 20GB. =\

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#7 Artekus
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My copy arrived this morning. It's pretty annoying it can't even be installed prior to release...
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#8 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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My copy arrived this morning. It's pretty annoying it can't even be installed prior to release...Artekus

It's annoying, but it's fair.

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#9 Artekus
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[QUOTE="Artekus"]My copy arrived this morning. It's pretty annoying it can't even be installed prior to release...airshocker

It's annoying, but it's fair.

Not in my opinion. I legally obtained this copy and I should be able to play it, release dates are for retailers, not the players who already have a copy. From what I hear, pirates have already been playing the game for at least two weeks... And at the very least I should be allowed to pre-load/install it. Console players don't have to put up with these restrictions.
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#10 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Artekus"]My copy arrived this morning. It's pretty annoying it can't even be installed prior to release...Artekus

It's annoying, but it's fair.

Not in my opinion. I legally obtained this copy and I should be able to play it, release dates are for retailers, not the players who already have a copy. From what I hear, pirates have already been playing the game for at least two weeks... And at the very least I should be allowed to pre-load/install it. Console players don't have to put up with these restrictions.

Technically, getting this game before the official release date must be impossible, just because random retailers violate their agreement doesn't mean you have more rights than others, so in the end yes, it's fair.
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When installing onto Windows, windows usually needs to store a lot of uncompressed files into temporary storage onto your harddrive, this is why it requires 20 gigs of space. While the actual game may be around half that, when decompressing it nearly doubles the size.

Steam doesn't require this because you download the files directly from their servers, no decompressing required.

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#12 Artekus
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[QUOTE="Artekus"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

It's annoying, but it's fair.

DanielDust

Not in my opinion. I legally obtained this copy and I should be able to play it, release dates are for retailers, not the players who already have a copy. From what I hear, pirates have already been playing the game for at least two weeks... And at the very least I should be allowed to pre-load/install it. Console players don't have to put up with these restrictions.

Technically, getting this game before the official release date must be impossible, just because random retailers violate their agreement doesn't mean you have more rights than others, so in the end yes, it's fair.

It's not a case of thinking I (or anyone else who gets it early) have more rights than others, It's just that we should be able to use something we've paid for and have in our possession.

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#13 deactivated-5c009341336cd
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nah, wasnt ME2 like 10gb and it downloaded in like an hour for me

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#14 Emraldo
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The install files might be 20 GB to fit it on two dual layer DVDs, but I'd expect the full game to be a lot closer to 20GB. The last game CA released that took up anywhere near a reasonable amount of HDD space was Rome :P

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#15 Crypt_mx
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So if i download it off of steam will the download be 11.87 gb? I need to know because if it will be more than that I have to buy the store copy, because I have an internet usage cap(screw you Canada).

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#16 kozzy1234
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So if i download it off of steam will the download be 11.87 gb? I need to know because if it will be more than that I have to buy the store copy, because I have an internet usage cap(screw you Canada).

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That will be how much you download

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#17 MythPro1
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Shame there's no pre-load, I'd preorder right now.
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#18 Bikouchu35
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I was expecting it to be bigger, but thats still pretty big. 2 hours to download give or take.

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#19 mhofever
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Those with the GamersGate version of Shogun, you can now download your file!

Btw, the download is 12.74gb. That store page is a rotten lie :(

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#20 MythPro1
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Those with the GamersGate version of Shogun, you can now download your file!

Btw, the download is 12.74gb. That store page is a rotten lie :(

mhofever
Still says Preorder on the Gamersgate site for me.
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#21 mhofever
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[QUOTE="mhofever"]

Those with the GamersGate version of Shogun, you can now download your file!

Btw, the download is 12.74gb. That store page is a rotten lie :(

MythPro1

Still says Preorder on the Gamersgate site for me.

Probably a regional thing. My cd key is now visible

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#23 MythPro1
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[QUOTE="MythPro1"][QUOTE="mhofever"]

Those with the GamersGate version of Shogun, you can now download your file!

Btw, the download is 12.74gb. That store page is a rotten lie :(

mhofever

Still says Preorder on the Gamersgate site for me.

Probably a regional thing. My cd key is now visible

Enjoy! [:D]
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#24 mhofever
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[QUOTE="mhofever"]

[QUOTE="MythPro1"] Still says Preorder on the Gamersgate site for me.MythPro1

Probably a regional thing. My cd key is now visible

Enjoy! [:D]

I'd still have to wait for the release time though since it's going to be installed on Steam

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#25 MythPro1
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[QUOTE="MythPro1"][QUOTE="mhofever"]

Probably a regional thing. My cd key is now visible

mhofever

Enjoy! [:D]

I'd still have to wait for the release time though since it's going to be installed on Steam

Ah. I checked the Steam forums and people overseas in Europe are beginning to preload the game. Few hours here in the US I suppose.
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#26 lawlessx
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When installing onto Windows, windows usually needs to store a lot of uncompressed files into temporary storage onto your harddrive, this is why it requires 20 gigs of space. While the actual game may be around half that, when decompressing it nearly doubles the size.

Steam doesn't require this because you download the files directly from their servers, no decompressing required.

Wasdie

Funny... my father was explaining this very same thing to me last night.:o

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#27 Artekus
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Preload is now available on steam :)
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#28 kozzy1234
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Preload is now available on steam :)Artekus

Thanks bud!!!
Cannot wait to play this 2morrow! 8)

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#29 Upparoom
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Its 16,306gb according to the preload. 4gb less for people with meh internet, I suppose.

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#30 ShadowDeathX
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=( I have been refreshing the D2D page to see if I can download...but nada. I want to play it already!!!! =(
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=( I have been refreshing the D2D page to see if I can download...but nada. I want to play it already!!!! =(ShadowDeathX
On the same boat... waiting for D2D to email me my key.

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Preloaded, ready to roll.

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#33 MythPro1
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10 hours and 15 minutes to go. I hear the Europeans are already playing it :(.
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#34 Upparoom
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Apparently there's no DX10 for anybody right now because of an auto-detection bug :?. CA said they'll fix it within "48 hours."

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#35 ShadowDeathX
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Apparently there's no DX10 for anybody right now because of an auto-detection bug :?. CA said they'll fix it within "48 hours."

Upparoom
and the bugs are confirmed.
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10 hours and 15 minutes to go. I hear the Europeans are already playing it :(.MythPro1
Correct: Total War: SHOGUN 2 - the highly anticipated sequel to The Creative Assembly's Shogun and Total War franchise is now available in Australia, New Zealand, and Europe regions. SHOGUN 2 will become available in the Americas and rest of world very soon (visit Shogun 2 store page for exact release time).MASTER THE ART OF WARIn the darkest age of Japan, endless war leaves a country divided....
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#37 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Upparoom"]

Apparently there's no DX10 for anybody right now because of an auto-detection bug :?. CA said they'll fix it within "48 hours."

ShadowDeathX

and the bugs are confirmed.

ALL OF MY HATE!!!!!

:(

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#38 kozzy1234
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http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/reviews/59467/Total-War-Shogun-2-Review

Here is a review, 4.5/5 score.

And here are 5 videos

LAND BATTLE = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asNgJLsvD-Q&feature=channel_video_title

Naval Combat = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBDsHzFvCYs&feature=channel_video_title

Historical Mission = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8YIpagJ7g&feature=channel_video_title

Shimazu Ending = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKEqJpl0MbY&feature=channel_video_title

Campaign / UI = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGFjSIgrBaQ&feature=channel_video_title

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[QUOTE="Upparoom"]

Apparently there's no DX10 for anybody right now because of an auto-detection bug :?. CA said they'll fix it within "48 hours."

ShadowDeathX

and the bugs are confirmed.

Has a game ever been released with zero bugs? If its Empire level of bugs I would be worried but if its as improved as Napoleon was in bugs/performance then ill be happy.

Waiting a little bit for dx11/dx10 is not a huge issue if the rest of the game runs and plays well to me personally.
We shall see how it goes 2morrow.

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Dammit my brother hasnt gone to the store yet like he said to pick up our 2 limited edition copies

Oh and once every1 is done playing their 1st game, you guys up for some.....

Samurai Chess?

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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="Upparoom"]

Apparently there's no DX10 for anybody right now because of an auto-detection bug :?. CA said they'll fix it within "48 hours."

Wasdie

and the bugs are confirmed.

ALL OF MY HATE!!!!!

:(

It's that bad. There's a way to manually change it to DX10(I think it's on the forums), but we'll all just have to live with bad shaders and eye-grinding jaggies for awhile. I'm sure they'll have a fix up by tomorrow, Wednesday at the latest. The annoying thing is barely anybody knows about this and is therefore assuming CA lied about DX10(they kind of made a bad choice about putting the sticky in support). TW forums are on fire right now.

Now if the game has bad multicore support like the demo does......

Then RAAARRGGHGHGJGJVHBVVC SZDAF#RWSDFSFSFWWFF RAAAAGE.

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#42 kozzy1234
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See you all 2morrow when the game is unlocked (:

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#43 mhofever
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Our lucky Aussie and European friends are able to play the game now. The Americas and rest of the world will have to wait 8 hours :(

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#44 topgunmv
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That's nothin', Napoleon total war is 23 gigs:(

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#47 mhofever
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Shogun 2 is now available! Now go, fellow daimyo, and conquer!
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#48 TruedUp
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Hmm, 15 Gigs download on Steam, but Direct2Drive told me 22 gigs? Nuts....

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#49 ShadowDeathX
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Hmm, 15 Gigs download on Steam, but Direct2Drive told me 22 gigs? Nuts....

TruedUp

I'm getting 23.9 GBs on Direct2Drive.....but it is downloading SUPER QUICK!! Shouldn't be too long =D

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#50 mhofever
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I'm pretty pissed right now. After installing Shogun 2, I have to download 700MB more and the fact that it's going at 40kb/s just makes me want to rage.