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#101 digitalman42
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My question is can I buy a upgrade if my prior key is OEM???

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#102 Tjeremiah1988
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blah, Windows 7 has been a pain so far. First the painful, long process trying to convert my file into iso (the damn student site doesnt even tell you in advance, nor the problems with 64 in a 32). Because I went to 32 to 64, Sony, on their official website basically said they will not even bother to support my notebook. The brightness on 7 doesnt work, nor does the touchpad correctly. Ive been searching for drivers for hrs, no luck. I guess ill have to wait months for a possible fix. Anyway, im off to class..
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#103 Marvi_I
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How do you intall Windows 7 from XP with the Upgrade version? Do I need my XP disc or product key? Please give steps. Thanks.
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#104 skipper847
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WOW i didnt realize i could get directx11 on my video card wooot. I just did a dxdiag in win7 and the version it says i have dx11. I thought they where on the new cards only. :D

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#105 Gog
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You need a version of XP installed to use the upgrade version. Any version will of XP do.

Note : I added a Q&A to the first post to handle the most frequently asked questions. I will keep it updated as new questions arise.

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#106 Gog
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WOW i didnt realize i could get directx11 on my video card wooot. I just did a dxdiag in win7 and the version it says i have dx11. I thought they where on the new cards only. :D

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Directx 11 has compatibility modes for directx 9, directx 10 and directx 11 hardware. It means you can use directx 11 on non-directx 11 hardware but you won't benefit from the extra directx 11 features.

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#107 boostud
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what would you be upgrading from?, if you didn't have a previous installation on your hdd?, you need a previous install..

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The reason I ask is because back in the day you could use the XP upgrade disc with NO OS INSTALLED. It prompted you for your 98/ME disk during the install to verify you had a copy of it. It didn't require you to run the 98 setup and then do it all over again with the XP setup. I was hoping for the same here as it sucks installing XP just to rerun another setup. Time is a luxury that I just dont have lately.
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#108 Ghost_loy
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Sorry if I overlooked this somewhere here, but from what I'm seeing is that with the 'upgrade' disc you can do a clean install? No Vista or XP installation has to be present?.

jamesfffan

what would you be upgrading from?, if you didn't have a previous installation on your hdd?, you need a previous install..

jamesfffan
I'm not sure he needs a previous install, after I created my disc I formatted my HDD and used the disc to install Win 7.
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#109 Ghost_loy
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[QUOTE="jamesfffan"]

what would you be upgrading from?, if you didn't have a previous installation on your hdd?, you need a previous install..

boostud
The reason I ask is because back in the day you could use the XP upgrade disc with NO OS INSTALLED. It prompted you for your 98/ME disk during the install to verify you had a copy of it. It didn't require you to run the 98 setup and then do it all over again with the XP setup. I was hoping for the same here as it sucks installing XP just to rerun another setup. Time is a luxury that I just dont have lately.

I was NEVER prompted for any disc during installation.
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#110 spoo_
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[QUOTE="jamesfffan"]

what would you be upgrading from?, if you didn't have a previous installation on your hdd?, you need a previous install..

boostud
The reason I ask is because back in the day you could use the XP upgrade disc with NO OS INSTALLED. It prompted you for your 98/ME disk during the install to verify you had a copy of it. It didn't require you to run the 98 setup and then do it all over again with the XP setup. I was hoping for the same here as it sucks installing XP just to rerun another setup. Time is a luxury that I just dont have lately.

Vista also had a trick that you could install the upgrade disc and not register then install the upgrade disc again and it counted as an "upgrade". Does anyone know if you can do something similar to Win7 yet? I ask because I have a HTPC that I built a few months ago and I didn't buy a copy of Windows for it so I just installed my copy of Vista on it using the same serial as my PC and I just never activated it. I bought 2 copies of Win7 upgrade this summer when they were $50 planing on upgrading my non registered HTPC with one copy. Does anyone know if Windows needs to be registered to upgrade with 7 yet? My copies are in the mail so I can't test this for myself yet.
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#111 jamesfffan
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For the Upgrade Edition:

I assumed the way it works is, if you choose "upgrade" while installing, it checks or asks for a Vista/XP disc to confirm you have an original previous version.

But if you choose "custom" it wipes the hard drive and allows for a clean install even though you are using the upgrade disc and not the full retail. But if you do have a previous install but want a fresh install, then you have the option of saving your files in a folder named "windows.old."

It that not the case?

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#112 SophaerLam
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Upgrade is a full retail version but it only installs on machines that already have Vista installed OEM is the fullpackage though it's only meant for Original Electronics Manufacturers (HP, Compaq ect) it dosn't have any official customer support.

I have an HP and I received my W7 upgrade, is it important that I us the OEM version or can I just install the other version on my pc without any problems.

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#113 boostud
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[QUOTE="jamesfffan"]

Sorry if I overlooked this somewhere here, but from what I'm seeing is that with the 'upgrade' disc you can do a clean install? No Vista or XP installation has to be present?.

Ghost_loy

what would you be upgrading from?, if you didn't have a previous installation on your hdd?, you need a previous install..

jamesfffan
I'm not sure he needs a previous install, after I created my disc I formatted my HDD and used the disc to install Win 7.

There is the answer then guys. You can do a clean install with NO proof of previous version (nor by disk or previous install) to install Windows 7 via the upgrade disc.
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#114 Recontrooper
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Quick question, is the $30 for Windows 7 only for an upgrade, b/c right now I'm only running the beta RC so will i be able to buy the upgrade version or do I have to shell out a $100 for the oem?
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#115 Gog
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Are you sure? I find this hard to believe. This would mean there is no difference at all between the Full version and the Upgrade version of Windows 7. Earlier statements were clear about the fact you needed a previously activated copy of Windows 2K,XP, Vista or event he 7 RC installed in order to use the upgrade disk.

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#116 jamesfffan
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Are you sure? I find this hard to believe. This would mean there is no difference at all between the Full version and the Upgrade version of Windows 7. Earlier statements were clear about the fact you needed a previously activated copy of Windows 2K,XP, Vista or event he 7 RC installed in order to use the upgrade disk.

Gog

This is my understanding too.

From your source:

If you are running the Windows 7 Release Candidate, and you have activated it,you will not need to reinstall an older version of Windows before using an Windows 7 upgrade disk.

But there's a catch. If for some reason you later need to reinstall the finished version of Windows 7 from scratch using the upgrade copy you bought, you'll first need to install and activate Windows XP or Vista.

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#117 spellsword107
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I just got windows 7 home premium 64 bit. turns out my wireless network card isn't compadable. Can someone recommend me a few that will work. thanks

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#118 jamesfffan
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Which card do you have?

Have you been to the manufacturer's website for the latest drivers?

Have you tried simply disabling, then re-enabling the card?

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#119 Recontrooper
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Quick question, is the $30 for Windows 7 only for an upgrade, b/c right now I'm only running the beta RC so will i be able to buy the upgrade version or do I have to shell out a $100 for the oem?Recontrooper
Can someone please answer my question?
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#120 Marvi_I
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I have the Windows 7 Upgrade version but have not installed yet. I want to do this: I save my files that I want to keep ,eg. word docs, music, to a laptop. Then I want to completely get rid off everything on my PC and my old OS (XP) and don't want any settings or stuff to be saved so I start fresh and then I can manually transfer the files I saved from my laptop. So what do I choose when installing Win 7? Do I not need the .Old file?(What ever it is called). What options will I need to select? Thanks in advance.
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#121 Ghost_loy
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For the Upgrade Edition:

I assumed the way it works is, if you choose "upgrade" while installing, it checks or asks for a Vista/XP disc to confirm you have an original previous version.

But if you choose "custom" it wipes the hard drive and allows for a clean install even though you are using the upgrade disc and not the full retail. But if you do have a previous install but want a fresh install, then you have the option of saving your files in a folder named "windows.old."

It that not the case?

jamesfffan
That appears to be the case.
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#122 Tjeremiah1988
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[QUOTE="Recontrooper"]Quick question, is the $30 for Windows 7 only for an upgrade, b/c right now I'm only running the beta RC so will i be able to buy the upgrade version or do I have to shell out a $100 for the oem?Recontrooper
Can someone please answer my question?

you mean the student one? Well I did it and it saids retail. I dont know if that helps. Basically, you can upgrade if you have VISTA 32 and get the Win7 32, others, you have to do a custom.
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#123 Ghost_loy
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SophaerLam

Upgrade is a full retail version but it only installs on machines that already have Vista installed OEM is the fullpackage though it's only meant for Original Electronics Manufacturers (HP, Compaq ect) it dosn't have any official customer support.

I have an HP and I received my W7 upgrade, is it important that I us the OEM version or can I just install the other version on my pc without any problems.

You can install whatever version you see fit.
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#124 Ghost_loy
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Are you sure? I find this hard to believe. This would mean there is no difference at all between the Full version and the Upgrade version of Windows 7. Earlier statements were clear about the fact you needed a previously activated copy of Windows 2K,XP, Vista or event he 7 RC installed in order to use the upgrade disk.

Gog
I installed just fine after doing a format of my Vista using the Windows 7 Upgrade. [QUOTE=""]

I save my files that I want to keep ,eg. word docs, music, to a laptop. Then I want to completely get rid off everything on my PC and my old OS (XP) and don't want any settings or stuff to be saved so I start fresh and then I can manually transfer the files I saved from my laptop.

Simply put the Win 7 disc in, when it asks you what drive you want to install click "Advanced"(or whatever the button is called) then format the drive you intend to use. Now NOTHING will be on the drive except for the new Win 7 install.
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#125 Tjeremiah1988
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I just got an idea. Anyone knows how to allow Windows to search for other updates instead of from Microsoft?
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#126 cfwin
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Question: What version of win7 should I go with?

Home premium, Pro or Ultimate? I've been using the RC since May and I really like it and that corresponds to the Ultimate? Should I get the home premium since its the smallest, i.e. least bloated but is it lacking in functionality and features? If the Pro and Ultimate versions are bigger are they then slower but offer more features that u actually use?

According to wiki, home premium is for the average consumer, and pro and ultimate for the enthusiast. I suppose I'm an average consumer but I like to think of my self as an enthusiast, so which version and why?

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One thing that I am totally disappointed with is the fact that with Home Premium you can NOT RDP to the freaking machine....why did they remove that feature? That's so freakin stupid....
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#128 spoo_
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Question: What version of win7 should I go with?cfwin

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/compare/default.aspx

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blah, Windows 7 has been a pain so far. First the painful, long process trying to convert my file into iso (the damn student site doesnt even tell you in advance, nor the problems with 64 in a 32). Because I went to 32 to 64, Sony, on their official website basically said they will not even bother to support my notebook. The brightness on 7 doesnt work, nor does the touchpad correctly. Ive been searching for drivers for hrs, no luck. I guess ill have to wait months for a possible fix. Anyway, im off to class.. Tjeremiah1988

Vista 64 drivers work in Windows 7 64

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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]blah, Windows 7 has been a pain so far. First the painful, long process trying to convert my file into iso (the damn student site doesnt even tell you in advance, nor the problems with 64 in a 32). Because I went to 32 to 64, Sony, on their official website basically said they will not even bother to support my notebook. The brightness on 7 doesnt work, nor does the touchpad correctly. Ive been searching for drivers for hrs, no luck. I guess ill have to wait months for a possible fix. Anyway, im off to class.. Netherscourge

Vista 64 drivers work in Windows 7 64

thats my problem. I went from 32 to 64. And the funny thing is, the Sony website for Windows 7, since its launch has said when oct 22nd comes, you will be able to see if your notebook can work with windows 7. Its finally oct 22nd and even though my notebook is obviously ready for win7 and 64bit, they refuse to even support my notebook or to update apps so it can work. I have been searching for hrs for a 64bit alphs touchpad drive and a solution to the FN keys not working on brightness and cant find anything.
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#131 Netherscourge
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One thing that I am totally disappointed with is the fact that with Home Premium you can NOT RDP to the freaking machine....why did they remove that feature? That's so freakin stupid....cell_dweller

Can't you just install a 3rd party program to do the same thing?

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#132 Netherscourge
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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]blah, Windows 7 has been a pain so far. First the painful, long process trying to convert my file into iso (the damn student site doesnt even tell you in advance, nor the problems with 64 in a 32). Because I went to 32 to 64, Sony, on their official website basically said they will not even bother to support my notebook. The brightness on 7 doesnt work, nor does the touchpad correctly. Ive been searching for drivers for hrs, no luck. I guess ill have to wait months for a possible fix. Anyway, im off to class.. Tjeremiah1988

Vista 64 drivers work in Windows 7 64

thats my problem. I went from 32 to 64. And the funny thing is, the Sony website for Windows 7, since its launch has said when oct 22nd comes, you will be able to see if your notebook can work with windows 7. Its finally oct 22nd and even though my notebook is obviously ready for win7 and 64bit, they refuse to even support my notebook or to update apps so it can work. I have been searching for hrs for a 64bit alphs touchpad drive and a solution to the FN keys not working on brightness and cant find anything.

Have you run Microsoft Updater yet?

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#133 Tjeremiah1988
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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

Vista 64 drivers work in Windows 7 64

Netherscourge

thats my problem. I went from 32 to 64. And the funny thing is, the Sony website for Windows 7, since its launch has said when oct 22nd comes, you will be able to see if your notebook can work with windows 7. Its finally oct 22nd and even though my notebook is obviously ready for win7 and 64bit, they refuse to even support my notebook or to update apps so it can work. I have been searching for hrs for a 64bit alphs touchpad drive and a solution to the FN keys not working on brightness and cant find anything.

Have you run Microsoft Updater yet?

yea, i asked is there a way for the update to get other things beside MS stuff , but then again, it did update my intel cards :? . But the touchpad and FN keys, nope.
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#134 Netherscourge
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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] thats my problem. I went from 32 to 64. And the funny thing is, the Sony website for Windows 7, since its launch has said when oct 22nd comes, you will be able to see if your notebook can work with windows 7. Its finally oct 22nd and even though my notebook is obviously ready for win7 and 64bit, they refuse to even support my notebook or to update apps so it can work. I have been searching for hrs for a 64bit alphs touchpad drive and a solution to the FN keys not working on brightness and cant find anything. Tjeremiah1988

Have you run Microsoft Updater yet?

yea, i asked is there a way for the update to get other things beside MS stuff , but then again, it did update my intel cards :? . But the touchpad and FN keys, nope.

You have a Vaio or something like that? WHat's the model #?

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#135 Tjeremiah1988
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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

Have you run Microsoft Updater yet?

Netherscourge

yea, i asked is there a way for the update to get other things beside MS stuff , but then again, it did update my intel cards :? . But the touchpad and FN keys, nope.

You have a Vaio or something like that? WHat's the model #?

VAIO VGN-NR160E . Dont bother, I literally search every search options from google with no luck.
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#136 Netherscourge
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Yikes:

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/os7upgrade.pl?mdl=VGNNR160E

Sorry dude. Looks like your SOL. Still supports VISTA though.

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#137 Tjeremiah1988
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Yikes:

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/os7upgrade.pl?mdl=VGNNR160E

Sorry dude. Looks like your SOL. Still supports VISTA though.

Netherscourge
yea, i was aware of this. Just wish they would of flat out said so at least a week ago. But the good news is, im not the only one, so i know someone out there is creating a solution. I'll just have to...wait:?
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#138 Tjeremiah1988
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1 SOLVED : I fount a HUGE list of drivers for Sony products, 32 and 64 bit for Windows 7 and can confirm that they do in fact work. Maybe the MOD can add this to the first page?

ftp://ftp.vaio-link.com/PUB/VAIO/ORIGINAL/

Now, just gotta figure out which fixes the brightness issue and all is well :D

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#139 sirk1264
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I just used the upgrade option on mine and it installed fine on my year old Asus laptop. Bought the family pack for 7 home premium.

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#140 cell_dweller  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

Can't you just install a 3rd party program to do the same thing?

I ended up rolling with PC anywhere, but still a pain...
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#141 caddy
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I really like 7 so far. I have only encountered two problems: WMP no longer drops down to a toolbar, and there are no drivers for my printer model for 7. However, even though there are no drivers, it still reads my printer, and allows me to print, so good times. :)
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dude switch the window in wmp12 to the now playing window, minimize it, and you will see when you hover over it on the taskbar, you can play/pause/skipnext/goback tracks and has the visualization playing at the same time through aero preview. Small correction in library view the icon is in the bottom RIGHT.

wmp12

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#143 Ghost_loy
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Wow, literally hours after I purchased Win 7 Home Premium for 30 USD and installed it my University is Offering Windows 7 Pro for FREE!!!!!
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#144 Marvi_I
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Will that delete everything on C:, D:, E: and F: ?

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#145 Ghost_loy
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Will what delete everything? Installing Win 7 will only remove everything from whatever drive you choose to install it on.
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#146 Marvi_I
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Will what delete everything? Installing Win 7 will only remove everything from whatever drive you choose to install it on.Ghost_loy

Is there an option while installing to format all the drives?

And, Will this work...

If I save my files that I want to keepon Drive D and then after I have installed Win 7 on C:, my files will still be there on my PC in Drive D ?

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#147 Tjeremiah1988
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Wow, literally hours after I purchased Win 7 Home Premium for 30 USD and installed it my University is Offering Windows 7 Pro for FREE!!!!!Ghost_loy
id be tight (mad)! But hey, at least when you bought it , you didnt pay 200+ like many.
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#148 digitalman42
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If I have Vista OEM 32-bit and want to upgrade to Windows 7 64-bit, which ones would let me do that, oem, upgrade, full retail?

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#149 Gog
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All of them: 64bit OEM, Upgrade retail or Full retail. You'll need a clean install in any case.

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#150 digitalman42
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Is it true with OEM you only get to reinstall it 3 times?