Elder Scrolls Online will lay final nail in WoW's coffin

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#1 HouseMuzik4Life
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQqOfsYGenI

 

What do you guys think? I know the vid's old but I just found it...seriously believe this is the WoW killer we've been waiting for.

 

(And by we I mean people who can't play Japanese MMOs with their crappy art styles)

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#2 ionusX
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQqOfsYGenI

 

What do you guys think? I know the vid's old but I just found it...seriously believe this is the WoW killer we've been waiting for.

 

(And by we I mean people who can't play Japanese MMOs with their crappy art styles)

HouseMuzik4Life

hahaha no ESO is just another silly cash grab and will be "medicore" at best

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#3 HouseMuzik4Life
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[QUOTE="HouseMuzik4Life"]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQqOfsYGenI

 

What do you guys think? I know the vid's old but I just found it...seriously believe this is the WoW killer we've been waiting for.

 

(And by we I mean people who can't play Japanese MMOs with their crappy art styles)

ionusX

hahaha no ESO is just another silly cash grab and will be "medicore" at best

A cash grab that required Zenimax to dedicate 250 people to their new "Online" studio for the last 5 years...right.
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#4 KABCOOL
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I don't know exactly how its going to turn out, but I strongly doubt it will take WoW down. I am in ESO's favour here, but I just can't see it happen.

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#5 kaealy
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="HouseMuzik4Life"]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQqOfsYGenI

 

What do you guys think? I know the vid's old but I just found it...seriously believe this is the WoW killer we've been waiting for.

 

(And by we I mean people who can't play Japanese MMOs with their crappy art styles)

HouseMuzik4Life

hahaha no ESO is just another silly cash grab and will be "medicore" at best

A cash grab that required Zenimax to dedicate 250 people to their new "Online" studio for the last 5 years...right.

Same could be said about SWtor and Age of Conan, see hpw that turned out. The only that that will put the nail in the coffin that is wow, will be Blizzards "titan" project. p.s My MMO of choice is Secret world.
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#6 HouseMuzik4Life
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[QUOTE="HouseMuzik4Life"][QUOTE="ionusX"] hahaha no ESO is just another silly cash grab and will be "medicore" at bestkaealy
A cash grab that required Zenimax to dedicate 250 people to their new "Online" studio for the last 5 years...right.

Same could be said about SWtor and Age of Conan, see hpw that turned out. The only that that will put the nail in the coffin that is wow, will be Blizzards "titan" project. p.s My MMO of choice is Secret world.

Fuuuck you're so right. TITAN WILL KEEP US IN THE HOUSE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS FUUUUUUUCKK
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#7 wis3boi
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WoW will still be around long after ESO closes

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#8 Cwagmire21
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Many people have claimed that X will be the next WoW killer and its never happened. Probably the only thing that will "kill" WoW is what Blizzard comes out with next and possibly even that won't kill WoW.

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#9 Nibroc420
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ITT: People not realizing even Everquest is still going. The last 10 MMOs that came out were called "WoW killers" before they even came out.
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#10 FelipeInside
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Looks promising in some aspects, others have me worried. Have to wait and see how the public receives the final product. As for WoW, only WoW can kill WoW.
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#11 JohnF111
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Yeah just like every promising MMO, in fact WoWs coffin must be like the iron throne from Game of Thrones... However I do want the game to be the absolute best MMO ever made, there's just so much lore in Elder Scrolls that it would be stupid of them to go after a cash grab.
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#12 WinsteadVolve
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They'll just run side by side, nothing stopping consumers having both. Blizzard do well in keeping interest.

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#13 Miroku32
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Ya, it will kill WoW. Like all other MMORPGs that were going to kill WoW.
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#14 Geminon
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yeah... not even. ESO is looking to be just another MMO in the sea of MMOs.
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#15 Mochyc
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Dude, this happens with literally EVERY single big name MMO. Really, I've been there: back with AoC, Aion, Rift, LoTRO, SWTOR, GW2, etc... Everyone either just gets disappointed and/or realizes its just WoW reskined. Can't we just learn from our mistakes, stop hyping MMOs and just wait and see?
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#16 Assimilat0r
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQqOfsYGenI

 

What do you guys think? I know the vid's old but I just found it...seriously believe this is the WoW killer we've been waiting for.

 

(And by we I mean people who can't play Japanese MMOs with their crappy art styles)

HouseMuzik4Life

 

Son why do i even care to look at this stupid topic name and this fail conversaion ? We already watched 20 mins of TESO gameplay its a crap , basicaly crap.  Nothing more and its on old stadium of developing so no turning back.

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#17 bonafidetk
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ESO looks like a very mediocre themepark MMO from the leaked alpha footage. Its going to be extremely average IMO. Themepark MMORPG's have had their day, proven time and again with the likes of SWTOR, WAR, etc.
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#18 valium88
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Luckily I haven't played any MMO besides TSW, so this might actuallly be rewarding from what I've seen and from what I believe it too be.

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#19 awptical
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There was leaked gameplay footage a couple months back and it looks downright f*cking terrible. Literally, one of the worst games I've ever seen. And im a huge ES fan. I thoroughly enjoyed Age of Conan for the first couple of years. But the lack meaningful updates, dumbing down of the PvP, and dwindling population killed that game. So much potential AoC had...

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#20 da_chub
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The only thing stoping wow is wow2.
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#21 GhoX
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There was a 20 mins leaked footage awhile ago. The game looked unimpressive both in terms of graphics and gameplay. There was no proper Elder Scrolls first person view at time of that video.
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#22 k--m--k
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another wow killer lol

Nothing can kill wow but itself

 

 

 

 

 

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#23 Gladestone1
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Looks promising in some aspects, others have me worried. Have to wait and see how the public receives the final product. As for WoW, only WoW can kill WoW.FelipeInside

If desteny does come to the pc..Its sort of a mmo..Think that has a strong shot an taking wow down..Desteny looks great..

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#24 kaealy
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[QUOTE="HouseMuzik4Life"][QUOTE="kaealy"][QUOTE="HouseMuzik4Life"] A cash grab that required Zenimax to dedicate 250 people to their new "Online" studio for the last 5 years...right.

Same could be said about SWtor and Age of Conan, see hpw that turned out. The only that that will put the nail in the coffin that is wow, will be Blizzards "titan" project. p.s My MMO of choice is Secret world.

Fuuuck you're so right. TITAN WILL KEEP US IN THE HOUSE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS FUUUUUUUCKK

You know I am right, there's no need to bring the discussion to the playground at the kindergarden.
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#25 mirgamer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQqOfsYGenI

 

What do you guys think? I know the vid's old but I just found it...seriously believe this is the WoW killer we've been waiting for.

 

(And by we I mean people who can't play Japanese MMOs with their crappy art styles)

HouseMuzik4Life
I'm actually very excited about ESO (since its basically DAOC 2.0) but it will never ever be the WoW killer, not by a long shot. Its a very RVR (and by that, PVP) thus its going to cater to a strong but very niche community. BUT it will be a cut amongst a thousand cuts that may topple the behemoth. Thats the only way WoW can go down. Yet even then, all WoW needs to do is implement F2P and you can bet that it will be the number 1 MMO again very easily.
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#26 mirgamer
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There was a 20 mins leaked footage awhile ago. The game looked unimpressive both in terms of graphics and gameplay. There was no proper Elder Scrolls first person view at time of that video.GhoX
The video is made by someone who quite obviously intended to show the game in a bad light, amongst other things. The way he was playing the game, you can do it on any game and they will come out looking bad. A couple commentaries about the leaked video that anyone whos interested in ESO should watch : Tamriel Talk : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9xMeH558RU Shoddycast : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FA9Ua-lR4Q
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[QUOTE="GhoX"]There was a 20 mins leaked footage awhile ago. The game looked unimpressive both in terms of graphics and gameplay. There was no proper Elder Scrolls first person view at time of that video.mirgamer
The video is made by someone who quite obviously intended to show the game in a bad light, amongst other things. The way he was playing the game, you can do it on any game and they will come out looking bad. A couple commentaries about the leaked video that anyone whos interested in ESO should watch : Tamriel Talk : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9xMeH558RU Shoddycast : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FA9Ua-lR4Q

That dude soooo bought GW2 collector's edition.. he's leet.
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#29 NEWMAHAY
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They invested 300 million dollars into the studio and game. It better do well.

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#30 PcGamingRig
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it looked "ok" in the gameplay videos I have seen.

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#31 Jebus213
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There was a 20 mins leaked footage awhile ago. The game looked unimpressive both in terms of graphics and gameplay. There was no proper Elder Scrolls first person view at time of that video.GhoX

 

"b...b...bu.... it's a BETA!!! They'll fix it!!!! It will improve!"

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#32 Jebus213
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it looked "ok" in the gameplay videos I have seen.

PcGamingRig

 

That's not good enough.

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#33 Jebus213
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They invested 300 million dollars into the studio and game. It better do well.

NEWMAHAY

 

It's Elder Scrolls so it will sell. It's going to be Free-to-play 6 months after release because the game is just that bad.

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#34 darkman006
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Going to be one of those, "Next big mmo things" and then turn into a free mmo...hopefully not though. 

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#35 yellosnolvr
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i'm definitely not a part of the Gamespot Blizzard Defense Force, but WoW isn't even near its coffin, yet.
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#36 James00715
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The Elder Scrolls has a lot of lore, but the real reason to play it is the exploration. So this MMO could be fun just exploring everything. The problem is you eventually will explore everything, and then, there is little reason to keep playing. MMOs have to be based around excellent gameplay. Gameplay that you will keep playing again and again. So far the gameplay in TESO doesn't seem all that great. I think it comes down to business model. If they go Subscription, the game will fail just like SWTOR did. If they go Buy to Play like GW2, it will probably do okay initially. They will need good DLC to sustain it though.

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#37 QQabitmoar
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There's no such thing as a 'WoW killer'. Because simply, the casuals that play WoW, don't play it because it's a very polished theme-park mmorpg, but because it's WoW. Even if something exactly like WoW comes around but with many additional features, better graphics etc, these crowds will still play WoW because that's the only thing they want to play.

Devs that are trying to chip away at WoW's userbase are pretty damn stupid, and finally now most people realise that it's just WoW that's so damn popular, and not theme-parks in general. That's why we are finally seeing some hope for the sandbox mmorpg genre.

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#38 rmfd341
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This game is gonna flop so hard, not only the gameplay sucks but they also butchered the lore.
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#39 NicotineKid
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We have all heard about these "wowkillers" before, and none have succeeded so far. :roll:

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#40 silversix_
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Animations :lol: are we in the 90's or 2013?
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#41 Morphic
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as much as i hate WoW, i doubt any one MMO will lay nail in WoWs cofffin. andit probably wont be this one

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#42 vfibsux
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[QUOTE="HouseMuzik4Life"]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQqOfsYGenI

 

What do you guys think? I know the vid's old but I just found it...seriously believe this is the WoW killer we've been waiting for.

 

(And by we I mean people who can't play Japanese MMOs with their crappy art styles)

ionusX

hahaha no ESO is just another silly cash grab and will be "medicore" at best

 

While I think any "death to WoW" thread is silly.....good luck with this prediction, I will be sure to save this.

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#43 biggest_loser
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Someone bookmark this thread and bump it 6 months after ESO is released.
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#44 cablemodemx2
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I don't think any single game could manage to place a nail in WoW's coffin.

It'll simply take the steady release of new ones to cause WoW to continue to hemorrhage accounts until there's nothing left but the four or so million gold sellers.

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#45 vfibsux
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This game is gonna flop so hard, not only the gameplay sucks but they also butchered the lore.rmfd341
Played it have you? All your stupid thread did was stir up a bunch of haters who want the game to fail, as haters on these boards typically do for any upcoming game anyone has a little hype for.
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#46 ChubbyGuy40
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All leaked TESO footage looks like hot garbage. The only thing that'll kill WoW is itself/Blizzard. Why don't people understand that yet?

Played it have you? All your stupid thread did was stir up a bunch of haters who want the game to fail, as haters on these boards typically do for any upcoming game anyone has a little hype for. vfibsux

Drone defense. You don't need to play it to know some of the main issues with it. There are multiple lists out there that state the inconsistancies/butchering to the lore the writers are doing, and those are all gathered from interviews and not the game itself.

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#47 FelipeInside
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I still don't understand why an MMO has to "kill" another to be good? Different games can,exist at the same time you know.... Like, every other genre does.
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#48 buccomatic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQqOfsYGenI

 

What do you guys think? I know the vid's old but I just found it...seriously believe this is the WoW killer we've been waiting for.

 

(And by we I mean people who can't play Japanese MMOs with their crappy art styles)

HouseMuzik4Life
it has to have intense and complex end game (level capped) raids that require 110% team effort with skilled and dedicated harcore players that are interrested in playing for 4 years straight to even try to compete with wow. yeah, yeah, i know the raids (in wow) aren't what they used to be. but still nothing comes even close to wow raids and that is 90% of the whole game and why it is so succesful. so if tes online can do hard core raids, have huge install base and also hardcore pvp (at the level cap) and also have a huge amunt of loot that is hard, and not at all easy to get, then it has a chance. also it will need KB/M support to succeed. controllers just won't cut it in MMOs because you need to have a large amount of skills that are very hard to master or the game will become to generaic and boring real quick.
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#49 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Just looks like another guild wars 2 to me, a flashy substancless game .... with no real staying powering. 4 man dungeons only... jesus christ its like these games want to take the genre backwards.
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#50 Elann2008
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Summarization of ESO: Elder Scrolls and MMO junkies will love it. Everyone else: ESO flopped. :-P