Which is the biggest threat to freedom at the moment/going forward?

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Poll Which is the biggest threat to freedom at the moment/going forward? (52 votes)

ISIS 15%
The Government 21%
Feminist and SJWs 25%
Militarization of police 15%
... 23%

Please vote.

feel free to explain and discuss

if you feel there is something else go ahead and say so.

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#51  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@kend0_kap0ni said:
@mrbojangles25 said:
@sonicare said:

The biggest threat to freedom is overreaction. People seem so willing to suspend their rights in the guise of added security.

spot on! No one wants to calm down, we all want to submit to kneejerk reactions and sensationalism.

thats pretty much Feminist and SJW

and people threatened by feminists and SJWs.

I mean a feminist/SJW comes out and says "THis is wrong. I'd like to change it". Maybe they're right, maybe they're wrong...but the general reaction to it these days is "OH MY GOD! WHere my country gone!? BURN THEM! BURN ALL THE COMMIE FEMINISTS AND SJWs!"

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#52  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@kend0_kap0ni said:
@mrbojangles25 said:
@sonicare said:

The biggest threat to freedom is overreaction. People seem so willing to suspend their rights in the guise of added security.

spot on! No one wants to calm down, we all want to submit to kneejerk reactions and sensationalism.

thats pretty much Feminist and SJW

Very odd comment. Much of the feminist community or "SJW" who have attempting to rationally make an argument have been rewarded with doxing, bomb threats, character assassination and attempts to see them fired for voicing an opinion.

Making them contemporary Joan Of Arc's inadvertently helps there cause, which (for some reason) doesn't seem to compute; struggling in quicksand they are.

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#53 wildaries
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tech companys in bed with the govt spying program.....there is no greater threat I know of than this.

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#54 wildaries
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@magicalclick: trump has a plan to send in the colonial marines.

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#55  Edited By wildaries
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@sonicare: 100% nailed it......every police state ever made was born out that.

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#56  Edited By wildaries
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@kend0_kap0ni: yea lisa loeb looking lesbos are right up there with isil.....lets all toss them in gitmo...lol.

mit 2016 .

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#57 wildaries
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no way...it man bear pig.....

@playmynutz:

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#58 wildaries
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everyone get there tin foil hat ready........someone should get a horse and ride from town to town yelling the fems are coming ..the fems are coming.

soon we all be forced to recite the vagina monologue's.

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#59 Jag85
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"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."

- Albert Einstein (1929)

...Basically, tribalism and nationalism.

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Feminism and SJWs.

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#62  Edited By GreySeal9
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@JangoWuzHere said:

Thanks OP

Threads like this remind me that OT is still a rotting garbage hole.

It's a demographic thing. For some reason hardcore gamers tend to be a bunch of angry anti-social boys who comically think that feminism is the greatest threat society has ever faced. Go to any forum that's more balanced in terms of gender and age (more women and actual men rather than the manchildren that populate gaming forums) and there's less of this nonsense.

But to answer the thread, I think radical Islam and nationalism/tribalism are probably the biggest threats.

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@wildaries: hahaha you can't be cereal

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#64 KEND0_KAP0NI
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@uninspiredcup said:
@kend0_kap0ni said:
@mrbojangles25 said:
@sonicare said:

The biggest threat to freedom is overreaction. People seem so willing to suspend their rights in the guise of added security.

spot on! No one wants to calm down, we all want to submit to kneejerk reactions and sensationalism.

thats pretty much Feminist and SJW

Very odd comment. Much of the feminist community or "SJW" who have attempting to rationally make an argument have been rewarded with doxing, bomb threats, character assassination and attempts to see them fired for voicing an opinion.

Making them contemporary Joan Of Arc's inadvertently helps there cause, which (for some reason) doesn't seem to compute; struggling in quicksand they are.

I dont know where you are but you are describing all the things Fem/SJW do to people who dont agree with them.

There are so many cases of Fem/Sjw doing all of what you said. Feminist and Black Lives Matter shutting down events (Milio's College Tour). Black Lives Matter rioting and trying to shut down Trump rallies (yes Trump is shit, but you cant cause benevolence because you dont like him). All the fake cases in the last two years of women getting raped at colleges and even when it turns out the woman lied, feminist still throw fits and protested still supporting the woman and vilifying the alleged rapist. BLM calling for people to be fire/step down. Feminist going hysterical because an ad shows a beach body ready woman, they complained so much they had it taken down. The same thing with the X-Men Apocalypse ad.

Feminism and SJW by definition is illogical and irrational. Because they do not want equality, they want special privileges and extra affirmative action. Everyone has Equality of Opportunity, but they Want Equality of Outcome. You want more women or Blacks in CEO positions? Everyone can go ahead and study and work towards it. If women them selfs are not majoring in those fields... how tho you expect there to be as many women in those fields? Women should stop majoring in Gender Studies and other Liberal Art things and actually go in to tech fields, business, etc. because they have the right/equality to go ahead and major into that.

Fem/Sjw have the upper hand and are the ones in the driver sit. You are claiming that they are the victims, which is incorrect.

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#65  Edited By Jag85
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@GreySeal9 said:
@JangoWuzHere said:

Thanks OP

Threads like this remind me that OT is still a rotting garbage hole.

It's a demographic thing. For some reason hardcore gamers tend to be a bunch of angry anti-social boys who comically think that feminism is the greatest threat society has ever faced. Go to any forum that's more balanced in terms of gender and age (more women and actual men rather than the manchildren that populate gaming forums) and there's less of this nonsense.

But to answer the thread, I think radical Islam and nationalism/tribalism are probably the biggest threats.

It's a form of tribalism, revolving around a social group (male gamers with an MRA agenda). Whether it's Gamergate, Trumpism, Brexit, or ISIS, these are all radical manifestations of tribalism.

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#66 JimB
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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Radical Christianity and Social justice warriors.

Not Islam?

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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

I'm saddened at the lack of an option to vote for community moderators.

I think we can fix that.

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It depends on where you live. If you live in Syria the answer is obviously ISIS. If you live in the UK the answer is the consevative party.

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@Jag85 said:

It's a form of tribalism, revolving around a social group (male gamers with an MRA agenda). Whether it's Gamergate, Trumpism, Brexit, or ISIS, these are all radical manifestations of tribalism.

SJ causes aren't forms of tribalism then?

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#70  Edited By Jag85
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@N30F3N1X said:
@Jag85 said:

It's a form of tribalism, revolving around a social group (male gamers with an MRA agenda). Whether it's Gamergate, Trumpism, Brexit, or ISIS, these are all radical manifestations of tribalism.

SJ causes aren't forms of tribalism then?

The opposite. SJ causes are about inclusivity, whereas tribalism is about exclusivity.

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#71 N30F3N1X
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@Jag85 said:
@N30F3N1X said:
@Jag85 said:

It's a form of tribalism, revolving around a social group (male gamers with an MRA agenda). Whether it's Gamergate, Trumpism, Brexit, or ISIS, these are all radical manifestations of tribalism.

SJ causes aren't forms of tribalism then?

The opposite. SJ causes are about inclusivity, whereas tribalism is about exclusivity.

Must be why they refuse to even consider anyone who has ideas different from them as worth listening or speaking to. In some cases, they don't even consider them having basic human rights.

Some real inclusivity you got there.

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#72  Edited By doubutsuteki
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@Jag85 said:
@GreySeal9 said:
@JangoWuzHere said:

Thanks OP

Threads like this remind me that OT is still a rotting garbage hole.

It's a demographic thing. For some reason hardcore gamers tend to be a bunch of angry anti-social boys who comically think that feminism is the greatest threat society has ever faced. Go to any forum that's more balanced in terms of gender and age (more women and actual men rather than the manchildren that populate gaming forums) and there's less of this nonsense.

But to answer the thread, I think radical Islam and nationalism/tribalism are probably the biggest threats.

It's a form of tribalism, revolving around a social group (male gamers with an MRA agenda). Whether it's Gamergate, Trumpism, Brexit, or ISIS, these are all radical manifestations of tribalism.

All different expressions of essentially the same reactionary politics, only in different cultural clothing (or subcultural clothing in the case of Gamergate). There are progressive movements working along similar lines though. Can't get away from the fact that man is a social animal and that conformity is necessary to an extent to get along with people in society at all. But yeah, I'm an anarchist at heart, and I think that there are dangers inherent in trusting the collective too much - and paternalistic, authoritarian collectives (nationalist/fascist/nazist) are the worst of them all.

Edit: Actually, Brexit is a bit more complicated than that, though. But that's another discussion.

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#73  Edited By Jag85
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@N30F3N1X said:
@Jag85 said:
@N30F3N1X said:
@Jag85 said:

It's a form of tribalism, revolving around a social group (male gamers with an MRA agenda). Whether it's Gamergate, Trumpism, Brexit, or ISIS, these are all radical manifestations of tribalism.

SJ causes aren't forms of tribalism then?

The opposite. SJ causes are about inclusivity, whereas tribalism is about exclusivity.

Must be why they refuse to even consider anyone who has ideas different from them as worth listening or speaking to. In some cases, they don't even consider them having basic human rights.

Some real inclusivity you got there.

Let's put it this way: Tribalism is about upholding tribal barriers, resulting in exclusivity. Social justice is about breaking down tribal barriers, in order to open up inclusivity.

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#74 Vaidream45
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Hahahahaha

You think that I think that you think i think feminism. Lol!! This thread is gold!

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#75  Edited By SarahF
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Religion in general.

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I want to say journalism. I would expand on that but I'm too lazy to do that right now sooo.....maybe later?

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#77 N30F3N1X
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@Jag85 said:

Let's put it this way: Tribalism is about upholding tribal barriers, resulting in exclusivity. Social justice is about breaking down tribal barriers, in order to open up inclusivity.

Right. Telling people their skin color or sex determine what they can or can't do or say now means inclusivity.

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#78 fenriz275
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Voters are the biggest threat to freedom. No matter how uninformed or just outright stupid people are they're still allowed to vote which explains why we have such a bottom of the barrel crop of politicians running for and holding office now.

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Pointless religious beliefs, republicans, stupid/ ignorant people, and the militarisation of police.

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#80 BigBadBully
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I'm just going with people in general being the worst threat.

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@Jag85 said:
@N30F3N1X said:
@Jag85 said:
@N30F3N1X said:
@Jag85 said:

It's a form of tribalism, revolving around a social group (male gamers with an MRA agenda). Whether it's Gamergate, Trumpism, Brexit, or ISIS, these are all radical manifestations of tribalism.

SJ causes aren't forms of tribalism then?

The opposite. SJ causes are about inclusivity, whereas tribalism is about exclusivity.

Must be why they refuse to even consider anyone who has ideas different from them as worth listening or speaking to. In some cases, they don't even consider them having basic human rights.

Some real inclusivity you got there.

Let's put it this way: Tribalism is about upholding tribal barriers, resulting in exclusivity. Social justice is about breaking down tribal barriers, in order to open up inclusivity.

.......... Yeah no, you may claim that but it is in fact shown to be the exact opposite in just about every way possible.

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#82 Skarwolf
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Depends what country ? I have no problems in mine. If you're a resident of some douchebag islamic state then you're fucked.

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#83  Edited By hippiesanta
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leftist

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#85  Edited By Drunk_PI
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The biggest threat to freedom is ourselves. At any time, "we the people" can elect a governing body that can take away our freedoms for the sake of security and safety. We can use our freedom of speech to diminish a group of people because of anger and fear until speaking out against those atrocities can become criminal, therefore eliminating freedom of speech. But sometimes we the people do not participate in our government, ignoring the politics and social issues going around us, therefore allowing authority figures and government officials to commit serious crimes and immoral behaviors, only to get away with it because we choose to live in our bubbles, thinking everything is "okay" and that there's nothing you can do.

We the people are the greatest threat to freedom. Tyrannical governments, abusive authority figures, and ignorance are the symptoms of a population unwilling to take part of our democratic republic and maintain our freedoms, to educate ourselves, and progress from where we were to what we should be.

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Political correctness............

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#88 KEND0_KAP0NI
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@hippiesanta said:

leftist

@LJS9502_basic said:

Political correctness............

So Feminism/SJW it is then.

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#89  Edited By Mercenary848
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Considering government interaction inadvertently or inadvertently created all of the choices.......

Add the governments lap dog th media and wellllll you know *Puts tin foil hat on*

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#90  Edited By stuff238
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SJW's/Liberals/Feminists are pro censorship and do whatever it takes to silence people.

They are violent, start riots and hate groups like BlackLivesMatter.

If it was up to them, they would create 1984 and the thought police would arrest you for any "bad" thoughts.

They are all illogical and uneducated. They don't even realize the liberal media keeps them poor and in the welfare state as a form of control.

It is mindboggling how anyone can vote for hilary when she doesn't care about you and wants you on welfare/dependant on the government.

Trump wants to create jobs and make americans happy.

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@jdiggle said:

SJWs/Feminists/BLM-type groups acting in conjunction with the government.

You forgot to mention the other side of what I call the coin of crazy.. That other side is the extreme right religious extremists that want their religious doctrine imposed on every one.