What's your favorite Pink Floyd album? And your opinion of Pink Floyd themselves

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Worst band in existence

chilly-chill

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="RisethNameless"]The goodies such as..? Give me examples and I'll let you know what I think of 'emRisethNameless

Ok this one is a very famous one but it's still one of my favourites. I pick it because it's easy accessible maybe but still good.

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Ok this one is a very famous one but it's still one of my favourites. I pick it because it's easy accessible maybe but still good.

themajormayor

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Why? Cause they're IRL douchebags, and this is reflected in their music.themajormayor

You are making the accuasation, provide the proof.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"] Care to provide some examples? WhiteKnight77

You are making the accuasation, provide the proof.

Wish You Were Here, partially on the strength of Welcome To The Machine, but for other other reasons as well

I've never been a fan of Pink Floyd (in fact, I think they are one of the most overrated bands in history), but if I had to choose, I guess Wish You Were Here would be my least disliked Pink Floyd album.

I suppose I'd have to go with 'The Wall' as it figured pretty large when it came out during my high school days and I pretty much played it and played it until my vinyl almost completely wore out...but overall I think they're a stellar band and I enjoy Gilmour's guitar stylings to the degree that I more often than not find myself listening to 'Pulse' as I just love him live.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] At least one of them is really racist. I don't like racists.themajormayor

You are making the accuasation, provide the proof.

Provide the proof that Pink Floyd is racist as that is your claim. Roger Waters is no longer with Pink Floyd and hasn't been since the 80's. Waters has also stated that people mistook the imagery used. In fact, there were other symbols like the cross, the hammer and sickle, a crescent and star, a Shell Oil sign and a Mercedes star as well as the Star of David and the dollar sign (I have seen the video in which it is alleged).

A letter to The Independent from RW has this to say:

[quote="Roger Waters"]Dear Sir In a recent news item on Foxnews/online, subsequently abridged in The Evening Standard, Abraham Foxman, head of the ADL, (Anti Defamation League) in the USA , accuses my new production of The Wall and by implication me, of anti-Semitism. A serious charge that demands a response. Had Mr Foxman come to my show before passing judgement and commenting publicly he might, I hope, have held his peace, as there is no anti Semitism in The Wall Show. The song to which he refers, Good Bye Blue Sky, describes how ordinary people, military and civilians alike, suffer trauma in the aftermath of war. The visuals that accompany the song show waves of B52 bombers dropping various symbols from bomb bays on a war ravaged landscape. The symbols are: in no particular order, a Crucifix, a Hammer and Sickle, a Star of David, A Crescent and Star, a Mercedes sign , a Dollar sign, and a Shell Oil sign. Mr Foxman's concern was that potentially the juxtoposition of a Star of David and a Dollar sign might incite hatred of Jews. Contrary to Mr Foxman's assertion, there are no hidden meanings in the order or juxtaposition of these symbols. The point I am trying to make in the song is that the bombardment we are all subject to by conflicting religious, political, and economic ideologies only encourages us to turn against one another, and I mourn the concommitant loss of life. In so far as The Wall has a political message it is to seek to illuminate our condition, and find new ways to encourage peace and understanding, particularly in the Middle East . Incidentally, being from England, I had never heard of the ADL until today, but I have googled them and I see from their mission statement of 1913 that their brief is not only to defend the Jewish people from defamation, but also, and I quote, " to secure justice and fair treatment to all citizens alike and to put an end forever to unjust and unfair discrimination against and ridicule of any sect or body of citizens". Perhaps we should all focus on that lofty ideal and stop cowering in our corners throwing stones at one another. Roger Waters

Again, provide proof that Pink Floyd is racist.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

You are making the accuasation, provide the proof.

WhiteKnight77

Provide the proof that Pink Floyd is racist as that is your claim. Roger Waters is no longer with Pink Floyd and hasn't been since the 80's. Waters has also stated that people mistook the imagery used. In fact, there were other symbols like the cross, the hammer and sickle, a crescent and star, a Shell Oil sign and a Mercedes star as well as the Star of David and the dollar sign (I have seen the video in which it is alleged).

A letter to The Independent from RW has this to say:

Dear Sir In a recent news item on Foxnews/online, subsequently abridged in The Evening Standard, Abraham Foxman, head of the ADL, (Anti Defamation League) in the USA , accuses my new production of The Wall and by implication me, of anti-Semitism. A serious charge that demands a response. Had Mr Foxman come to my show before passing judgement and commenting publicly he might, I hope, have held his peace, as there is no anti Semitism in The Wall Show. The song to which he refers, Good Bye Blue Sky, describes how ordinary people, military and civilians alike, suffer trauma in the aftermath of war. The visuals that accompany the song show waves of B52 bombers dropping various symbols from bomb bays on a war ravaged landscape. The symbols are: in no particular order, a Crucifix, a Hammer and Sickle, a Star of David, A Crescent and Star, a Mercedes sign , a Dollar sign, and a Shell Oil sign. Mr Foxman's concern was that potentially the juxtoposition of a Star of David and a Dollar sign might incite hatred of Jews. Contrary to Mr Foxman's assertion, there are no hidden meanings in the order or juxtaposition of these symbols. The point I am trying to make in the song is that the bombardment we are all subject to by conflicting religious, political, and economic ideologies only encourages us to turn against one another, and I mourn the concommitant loss of life. In so far as The Wall has a political message it is to seek to illuminate our condition, and find new ways to encourage peace and understanding, particularly in the Middle East . Incidentally, being from England, I had never heard of the ADL until today, but I have googled them and I see from their mission statement of 1913 that their brief is not only to defend the Jewish people from defamation, but also, and I quote, " to secure justice and fair treatment to all citizens alike and to put an end forever to unjust and unfair discrimination against and ridicule of any sect or body of citizens". Perhaps we should all focus on that lofty ideal and stop cowering in our corners throwing stones at one another. Roger WatersRoger Waters

Again, provide proof that Pink Floyd is racist.

Did you even read my post? I wasn't talking about any video.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Roger Waters wants to destroy the Jews. He said the West Bank barrier and Gaza blockade should be completely ended. It's the same thing as saying "more Jews need to die". He is also a member of one of the most anti-semitic campaigns ever.themajormayor

Provide the proof that Pink Floyd is racist as that is your claim. Roger Waters is no longer with Pink Floyd and hasn't been since the 80's. Waters has also stated that people mistook the imagery used. In fact, there were other symbols like the cross, the hammer and sickle, a crescent and star, a Shell Oil sign and a Mercedes star as well as the Star of David and the dollar sign (I have seen the video in which it is alleged).

A letter to The Independent from RW has this to say:

Dear Sir In a recent news item on Foxnews/online, subsequently abridged in The Evening Standard, Abraham Foxman, head of the ADL, (Anti Defamation League) in the USA , accuses my new production of The Wall and by implication me, of anti-Semitism. A serious charge that demands a response. Had Mr Foxman come to my show before passing judgement and commenting publicly he might, I hope, have held his peace, as there is no anti Semitism in The Wall Show. The song to which he refers, Good Bye Blue Sky, describes how ordinary people, military and civilians alike, suffer trauma in the aftermath of war. The visuals that accompany the song show waves of B52 bombers dropping various symbols from bomb bays on a war ravaged landscape. The symbols are: in no particular order, a Crucifix, a Hammer and Sickle, a Star of David, A Crescent and Star, a Mercedes sign , a Dollar sign, and a Shell Oil sign. Mr Foxman's concern was that potentially the juxtoposition of a Star of David and a Dollar sign might incite hatred of Jews. Contrary to Mr Foxman's assertion, there are no hidden meanings in the order or juxtaposition of these symbols. The point I am trying to make in the song is that the bombardment we are all subject to by conflicting religious, political, and economic ideologies only encourages us to turn against one another, and I mourn the concommitant loss of life. In so far as The Wall has a political message it is to seek to illuminate our condition, and find new ways to encourage peace and understanding, particularly in the Middle East . Incidentally, being from England, I had never heard of the ADL until today, but I have googled them and I see from their mission statement of 1913 that their brief is not only to defend the Jewish people from defamation, but also, and I quote, " to secure justice and fair treatment to all citizens alike and to put an end forever to unjust and unfair discrimination against and ridicule of any sect or body of citizens". Perhaps we should all focus on that lofty ideal and stop cowering in our corners throwing stones at one another. Roger WatersRoger Waters

Again, provide proof that Pink Floyd is racist.

Did you even read my post? I wasn't talking about any video.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Provide the proof that Pink Floyd is racist as that is your claim. Roger Waters is no longer with Pink Floyd and hasn't been since the 80's. Waters has also stated that people mistook the imagery used. In fact, there were other symbols like the cross, the hammer and sickle, a crescent and star, a Shell Oil sign and a Mercedes star as well as the Star of David and the dollar sign (I have seen the video in which it is alleged).

A letter to The Independent from RW has this to say:

[quote="Roger Waters"]Dear Sir In a recent news item on Foxnews/online, subsequently abridged in The Evening Standard, Abraham Foxman, head of the ADL, (Anti Defamation League) in the USA , accuses my new production of The Wall and by implication me, of anti-Semitism. A serious charge that demands a response. Had Mr Foxman come to my show before passing judgement and commenting publicly he might, I hope, have held his peace, as there is no anti Semitism in The Wall Show. The song to which he refers, Good Bye Blue Sky, describes how ordinary people, military and civilians alike, suffer trauma in the aftermath of war. The visuals that accompany the song show waves of B52 bombers dropping various symbols from bomb bays on a war ravaged landscape. The symbols are: in no particular order, a Crucifix, a Hammer and Sickle, a Star of David, A Crescent and Star, a Mercedes sign , a Dollar sign, and a Shell Oil sign. Mr Foxman's concern was that potentially the juxtoposition of a Star of David and a Dollar sign might incite hatred of Jews. Contrary to Mr Foxman's assertion, there are no hidden meanings in the order or juxtaposition of these symbols. The point I am trying to make in the song is that the bombardment we are all subject to by conflicting religious, political, and economic ideologies only encourages us to turn against one another, and I mourn the concommitant loss of life. In so far as The Wall has a political message it is to seek to illuminate our condition, and find new ways to encourage peace and understanding, particularly in the Middle East . Incidentally, being from England, I had never heard of the ADL until today, but I have googled them and I see from their mission statement of 1913 that their brief is not only to defend the Jewish people from defamation, but also, and I quote, " to secure justice and fair treatment to all citizens alike and to put an end forever to unjust and unfair discrimination against and ridicule of any sect or body of citizens". Perhaps we should all focus on that lofty ideal and stop cowering in our corners throwing stones at one another. Roger WatersWhiteKnight77

Again, provide proof that Pink Floyd is racist.

Did you even read my post? I wasn't talking about any video.

Roger Waters left Pink Floyd in 1985, long before he made any misconstrued comments or had a video showing a multiple symbols being dropped from bombers in a video shown during concert of his during a song. I even quoted a letter with him talking about those very symbols and how ADL misconstrued them. Something I am sure Wikipedia is also missing.WhiteKnight77

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]Roger Waters left Pink Floyd in 1985, long before he made any misconstrued comments or had a video showing a multiple symbols being dropped from bombers in a video shown during concert of his during a song. I even quoted a letter with him talking about those very symbols and how ADL misconstrued them. Something I am sure Wikipedia is also missing.themajormayor

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]Roger Waters left Pink Floyd in 1985, long before he made any misconstrued comments or had a video showing a multiple symbols being dropped from bombers in a video shown during concert of his during a song. I even quoted a letter with him talking about those very symbols and how ADL misconstrued them. Something I am sure Wikipedia is also missing.WhiteKnight77

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Ok then. HE is still racist though.themajormayor

Man....my (soon to be) brother in law would have a field day in this thread...

I'll just say Dark Side of The Moon since it's the only one I know of.

Anti-semitism isn't racism... it's anti-semitism.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"] Only you seem to think he is racist. No onwell e else.WhiteKnight77

Anti-semitism isn't racism... it's anti-semitism.

Ilovegames1992

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]No one else? How about the like the biggest organization agains anti-semitism? U don't have to agree with them but it's ridiculous to say no on else.themajormayor

I stated that outside of ADL, no one else appears to care what ADL thought of what was meant by the symbols shown in the video seen in the above mentioned concert or words to that effect.

I also told you that I watched the video in question and saw multiple symbols and that it just so happened that the dollar sign followed the Star of David. The video could most certainly have used the symbol for the British Pound or the Euro or the Yen for that matter. They could have been in a different order.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Anti-semitism isn't racism... it's anti-semitism.

themajormayor

I could be Jewish if i wanted to though.

I once dreamt with me starting a revolution and singing «The Wall» with all the students at college. That's how I love Pink Floyd.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"] That is due to their misinterpretation of a very short clip of a larger video that they disregarded and he stated as much. Read the letter that he wrote that I included above. He admits to have never to have heard of the ADL until they made the claims, and I can see it as the ADL only exists in 4 countries and England isn't one of them.WhiteKnight77

I stated that outside of ADL, no one else appears to care what ADL thought of what was meant by the symbols shown in the video seen in the above mentioned concert or words to that effect.

I also told you that I watched the video in question and saw multiple symbols and that it just so happened that the dollar sign followed the Star of David. The video could most certainly have used the symbol for the British Pound or the Euro or the Yen for that matter. They could have been in a different order.

And I also told you many times that this was not my claim. I don't think this video is racist at all, I've said so many times. I think it's "racist" against religion though. Whatever that word is. But that's not the point.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Anti-semitism isn't racism... it's anti-semitism.

Ilovegames1992

I could be Jewish if i wanted to though.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] Well yes it is a form of racism.themajormayor

I could be Jewish if i wanted to though.

Well what has foreskin got to do with race? Weird.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I could be Jewish if i wanted to though.

Ilovegames1992

Well what has foreskin got to do with race? Weird.

TDSoTM has to be the best for me. I think they are one of the better artists of our time

I've only heard echoes lol. On what album is that song in?cysf661