What's the difference between China's one child policy, and abortion?

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#1 nicksonman
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Abortion occurs post conception, China's one child policy occurs pre conception. So really, all the pro-lifers should be in China protesting with their signs.

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#2 LJS9502_basic
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What an incredibly stupid idea....
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#3 TwoFace-BS
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One is killing children while they are in the womb The other is stopping the family putting a second child in the womb There is a difference
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#4 leeveeu
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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"]One is killing children while they are in the womb The other is stopping the family putting a second child in the womb There is a difference

This.
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#5 Renevent42
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"What's the difference between China's one child policy, and abortion?" I hope this wasn't a serious question...
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#6 nicksonman
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"]"What's the difference between China's one child policy, and abortion?" I hope this wasn't a serious question...

Ask LJS9502_basic. He seems to know.
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#7 Barbariser
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What the f*ck.

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#8 leeveeu
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[QUOTE="Nicksonman"][QUOTE="Renevent42"]"What's the difference between China's one child policy, and abortion?" I hope this wasn't a serious question...

Ask LJS9502_basic. He seems to know.

TC, you trollin' your own topic or trying to be sarcastic. Either way, don't.
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#9 DaBrainz
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The difference is that in China they have extra babies to sell them to americans. Its an industry and for some reason its not frowned upon.
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#10 THE_DRUGGIE
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One's a population control method and the other's...well, a population control method.

Oh my, I think they just might be the same thing.

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#11 lowkey254
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I'm at a loss for words as I'm not following what you are saying.

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#12 foxhound_fox
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China's policy promotes infanticide when an undesirable female is born.
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#13 dagreenfish
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China's policy promotes infanticide when an undesirable female is born.foxhound_fox
Thus us not as much of an issue as it used to be. In fact, the government has begun to offer financial incentives for families to have female children. Not to mention, the policy as a whole, is not nearly as strict as it used to be. There are all kinds of loop holes and such for people to have multiple children.
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#14 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]China's policy promotes infanticide when an undesirable female is born.dagreenfish
Thus us not as much of an issue as it used to be. In fact, the government has begun to offer financial incentives for families to have female children. Not to mention, the policy as a whole, is not nearly as strict as it used to be. There are all kinds of loop holes and such for people to have multiple children.

Probably because they realized their country can't survive without some females to propagate the species. It's not done for human rights ideas....
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#15 LJS9502_basic
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One's a population control method and the other's...well, a population control method.

Oh my, I think they just might be the same thing.

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Abortion is not usually done for population control.
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#16 dagreenfish
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[QUOTE="dagreenfish"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]China's policy promotes infanticide when an undesirable female is born.LJS9502_basic
Thus us not as much of an issue as it used to be. In fact, the government has begun to offer financial incentives for families to have female children. Not to mention, the policy as a whole, is not nearly as strict as it used to be. There are all kinds of loop holes and such for people to have multiple children.

Probably because they realized their country can't survive without some females to propagate the species. It's not done for human rights ideas....

Never claimed anything about human rights.
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In China it's not pro-choice vs. pro-life. You don't have a choice. You have a one kid limit, that's it. Any after that must be aborted.

China's methods may seem inhumane but they are almost out of necessity. We may see India adapt similar policies. In fact, we may have to adapt similar policies in the future. Overpopulation is a real thing and could really hurt our species.

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#18 dagreenfish
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In China it's not pro-choice vs. pro-life. You don't have a choice. You have a one kid limit, that's it. Any after that must be aborted.

China's methods may seem inhumane but they are almost out of necessity. We may see India adapt similar policies. In fact, we may have to adapt similar policies in the future. Overpopulation is a real thing and could really hurt our species.

Wasdie
Forced abortions is not as much as an issue anymore. These days what happens is that if a couple has a second child, the government doesn't pay for the second kid's healthcare or education as well as an extra tax burden. I don't agree with all of the methods of the policy, but I agree that they need/needed to do something to curb population growth. They are basically feeding 25% of the world's population on 7% of the world's arable land.
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#19 AdrianWerner
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Abortion kills the child while still in the womb, one child policy either stops the child from exiting at all or n many cases leads to parents killing the child after its born if it's a girl

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#20 Sagem28
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One is killing children while they are in the womb The other is stopping the family putting a second child in the womb There is a differenceTwoFace-BS

This.

Are you really that daft, OP ?

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#21 AdrianWerner
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In fact, we may have to adapt similar policies in the future. Overpopulation is a real thing and could really hurt our species.

Wasdie

Overpopulation is a proplem solely in developing countries though. In fact the bigget problem advanced and wealthy nation face now is population decrease, which puts catastrophical strain on those countries'budgets. So now and in next few decades most countries need to do whatever they can to increase population.

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#22 scorch-62
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Well, for one, the one-child policy is a law.
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#23 leeveeu
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

In fact, we may have to adapt similar policies in the future. Overpopulation is a real thing and could really hurt our species.

AdrianWerner

Overpopulation is a proplem solely in developing countries though. In fact the bigget problem advanced and wealthy nation face now is population decrease, which puts catastrophical strain on those countries'budgets. So now and in next few decades most countries need to do whatever they can to increase population.

That is correct. However, what do you do when the population increases and everybody wants, naturally, a high standard of life? Is this sustainable in the long run? I don't think so. Imagine how stressful it would be for the planetary resources if let's say every Indian and Chinese family had at least a car, a nice roomy house equipped with everything, etc.
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#24 The_Gaming_Baby
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Stopping someone getting pregnant is not the same as having an abortion. Thats like saying preventing someone from commiting a crime is the same as catching them commiting the crime.

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#25 branketra
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One child =/= abortion Before>after
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#26 branketra
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One child =/= abortion Before>after
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#28 BuryMe
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The one child policy is mandatory, and abortion isn't.

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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"]One is killing children while they are in the womb The other is stopping the family putting a second child in the womb There is a difference

In any other society, yes there is. Unfortunately, this is China we're talking about, with a bias toward male children that have lasted since Confucius himself. Oftentimes, some parents would get an abortion if it was a female child and try again.
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[QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"]One is killing children while they are in the womb The other is stopping the family putting a second child in the womb There is a differencehiphops_savior
In any other society, yes there is. Unfortunately, this is China we're talking about, with a bias toward male children that have lasted since Confucius himself. Oftentimes, some parents would get an abortion if it was a female child and try again.

Uh more then likely the said chinese family does not have access to a ultrasound which means they do not know if its a boy or girl.. More then likely the baby is abandoned..

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#31 ghoklebutter
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The former is an egregious infringement upon liberty, and the latter is an exercise of autonomy.
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#33 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"]One is killing children while they are in the womb The other is stopping the family putting a second child in the womb There is a difference

In any other society, yes there is. Unfortunately, this is China we're talking about, with a bias toward male children that have lasted since Confucius himself. Oftentimes, some parents would get an abortion if it was a female child and try again.

Are you sure it's just China that prefers male children? I remember a thread here not long ago where most people wanted a boy. Unless they are all from China...I can't see it as a one country only issue.
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#34 deactivated-598fc45371265
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Abortion occurs post conception, China's one child policy occurs pre conception. So really, all the pro-lifers should be in China protesting with their signs.

Nicksonman

Are you a f ucking moron? China's one child policy involves abortion, forced abortion. So much for a woman's right to choose. So in reality both pro-lifers and pro-choicers should be protesting.

Second, protesting with signs in the PRC is a great idea if you want to go missing.

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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="TwoFace-BS"]One is killing children while they are in the womb The other is stopping the family putting a second child in the womb There is a difference

In any other society, yes there is. Unfortunately, this is China we're talking about, with a bias toward male children that have lasted since Confucius himself. Oftentimes, some parents would get an abortion if it was a female child and try again.

But that isnt what TC is talking about
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They must make a lot of exceptions. Can somebody explain to me why the population of china hasn't dramatically decreased under this?
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#38 deactivated-598fc45371265
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They must make a lot of exceptions. Can somebody explain to me why the population of china hasn't dramatically decreased under this?DaBrainz

Certain ethnic groups are exempt. Couples in the countryside are sometimes allowed 2. And some people just plain get away with having extra kids.

The highly amusing thing is that even with all the laws regarding the matter, China still has a substantially higher birthrate than places like Europe, Japan, Canada, and South Korea.

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#39 Blue-Sky
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One is a necessary evil for a 1 Billion+ overpopulation

The other is asensationalized talking point to segue a misconstrued perception ofpremarital sex.

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In China it's not pro-choice vs. pro-life. You don't have a choice. You have a one kid limit, that's it. Any after that must be aborted.

China's methods may seem inhumane but they are almost out of necessity. We may see India adapt similar policies. In fact, we may have to adapt similar policies in the future. Overpopulation is a real thing and could really hurt our species.

Wasdie
There was a report on a town in China where the CCP allowed for families to have as many children as they wanted(an experiment) and the results showed that the birth rate was actually lower than the national average.
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#41 themajormayor
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One is a one child policy the other is abortion

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#42 snakes_codec
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the difference is your aborting something that's living i wouldn't like to call it murder as some people don't have much of a choice China's 1 child policy is to stop the country from getting even more over crowded currently the population is about 1.5 billion even with the 1 child rule there almost certain to pass the 2 billion marker in the next 20 years .

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#44 dagreenfish
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[QUOTE="snakes_codec"]

the difference is your aborting something that's living i wouldn't like to call it murder as some people don't have much of a choice China's 1 child policy is to stop the country from getting even more over crowded currently the population is about 1.5 billion even with the 1 child rule there almost certain to pass the 2 billion marker in the next 20 years .

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Actually, the growth of the Chinese population is beginning (slowly) to level off and will decrease. As nations become more developed that is what happens.

True. There is a trend that more educated people tend to have smaller families. This part of why some developed countries have shrinking populations. Urban centers in china are no different with some young professional people choosing to not have kids at all.
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#45 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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I think you'll find that China's one child policiy had lead to a sharp increase of abortions and of infanticide at foxhound mentioned. It's a terrible human rights issue.

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Ones forced, one isn't

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*Facepalm". Abortion is the termination of life. period. The one-child policy is necessary to control China's huge population, albeit it its enforced harshly. It allows couples to have one-child only, then any pregnancies after that would be terminated. It doesn't mean no children at all - which is the key point here. For China, it is necessary, given that they have a population that is around 1.4 Billion. Russia, in comparison with their huge amount of land at their disposal, has a population of only 143,000,000, and the USA have a population of around 313,000,000. China's population at 1,400,000,000 is far in excess of that in a much smaller space of land. [spoiler] Of course I used Wikipedia for those population figures :P [/spoiler]
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*Facepalm". Abortion is the termination of life. period. The one-child policy is necessary to control China's huge population, albeit it its enforced harshly. It allows couples to have one-child only, then any pregnancies after that would be terminated. It doesn't mean no children at all - which is the key point here. For China, it is necessary, given that they have a population that is around 1.4 Billion. Russia, in comparison with their huge amount of land at their disposal, has a population of only 143,000,000, and the USA have a population of around 313,000,000. China's population at 1,400,000,000 is far in excess of that in a much smaller space of land. [spoiler] Of course I used Wikipedia for those population figures :P [/spoiler] DeX2010

Another fun Wikipedia fact. PRC is the 80th most densly populated country in the world. The 80th.

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#49 DeX2010
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Another fun Wikipedia fact. PRC is the 80th most densly populated country in the world. The 80th.Storm_Marine
Population Density=/= Size of population. A small country might have a high population density with a total population of 500,000. Chinas policy is on a much grander scale. Population density only relates to the amount of people in a small amount of space, hence why Bangladesh is one of the most densely populated countries in the world.
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"] Another fun Wikipedia fact. PRC is the 80th most densly populated country in the world. The 80th.DeX2010
Population Density=/= Size of population. A small country might have a high population density with a total population of 500,000. Chinas policy is on a much grander scale. Population density only relates to the amount of people in a small amount of space, hence why Bangladesh is one of the most densely populated countries in the world.

I had no idea populations were discussed in terms like 'grand scale'. And hell, what does that even mean?