What Do You Think Is The True Meaning Of Christmas?

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]It's another faceless holiday that has been bastardized by modern society.-TheSecondSign-

:lol:

Now I sure know who to call when I need cheered up.

I'm good at making people happy that they're not me.

In Christianity it's supposed to mark the date of the birth of Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, no one knows the actual date of Jesus's birth so it was decided that it would be celebrated on the 25th.

Originally, what is called Christmas today was actually a Pagan holiday, so in a way Christmas smothered the Pagan holiday and took it's place.

[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]It's another faceless holiday that has been bastardized by modern society.Blood-Scribe

:lol:

Now I sure know who to call when I need cheered up.

I'm good at making people happy that they're not me.

Do you need a hug?

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

:lol:

Now I sure know who to call when I need cheered up.

-TheSecondSign-

I'm good at making people happy that they're not me.

Do you need a hug?

No.

No.

A pen pal?

A pen pal?

-TheSecondSign-

Can we be more than just pen pals?

[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
Which do you think is more important?Crushmaster

He's a registered Dem and won't join Falwell's 'Religious Right,' but is still a quite conservative person:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_graham#Politics

[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

A pen pal?

Blood-Scribe

Can we be more than just pen pals?

[QUOTE="dog64"]The holiday that is Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus harashawn

I believe it is about celebrating the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
(Matthew 1:21) - "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins."
Please note: This topic's purpose is evangelism; please keep the topic relating around Christian subjects - i.e. the Bible, and, of course, the question.
Thank you, and God bless,
Crushmaster.

Crushmaster

christmas is an adaptation of pagan celebration - kind of ironic you would support if given your literal interpretation angle re: the Bible that you and BR seem to follow.

i'm curious. do you buy a tree? adorn it with ornaments? present a wreath? hang mistletoe? very curious indeed.

do you celebrate on the 25th of December? do you tell your children of reindeer and santa claus? elves? the workshop? north pole? do you purchase candy canes? do you buy gifts for others on this day?

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
I believe it is about celebrating the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
(Matthew 1:21) - "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins."
Please note: This topic's purpose is evangelism; please keep the topic relating around Christian subjects - i.e. the Bible, and, of course, the question.
Thank you, and God bless,
Crushmaster.

3picuri3

christmas is an adaptation of pagan celebration - kind of ironic you would support if given your literal interpretation angle re: the Bible that you and BR seem to follow.

i'm curious. do you buy a tree? adorn it with ornaments? present a wreath? hang mistletoe? very curious indeed.

do you celebrate on the 25th of December? do you tell your children of reindeer and santa claus? elves? the workshop? north pole? do you purchase candy canes? do you buy gifts for others on this day?

Just because we are christians, DOESNT mean we can't put ornaments on our tree...

Santa claus is just a myth that purpose-seeking people believe in...

CHRISTMAS IS NOT THE ADAPTION OF PAGAN BELIEFS!!!!!!!!

I don't EVER want to hear something like that again...

Christmas is a time of celebrating Jesus' birth.

There is only ONE bible, and only ONE true religion.

I hope you one day find the person who died for YOU, and rose again, for YOU.

That person, is Christ Jesus.

I wish we knew Jesus' actual birthday so we could celebrate it then.Theokhoth

CHRISTMAS IS NOT THE ADAPTION OF PAGAN BELIEFS!!!!!!!!

I don't EVER want to hear something like that again...

Christmas is a time of celebrating Jesus' birth.

There is only ONE bible, and only ONE true religion.

I hope you one day find the person who died for YOU, and rose again, for YOU.

That person, is Christ Jesus.oblivionownn

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
I believe it is about celebrating the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
(Matthew 1:21) - "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins."
Please note: This topic's purpose is evangelism; please keep the topic relating around Christian subjects - i.e. the Bible, and, of course, the question.
Thank you, and God bless,
Crushmaster.

oblivionownn

christmas is an adaptation of pagan celebration - kind of ironic you would support if given your literal interpretation angle re: the Bible that you and BR seem to follow.

i'm curious. do you buy a tree? adorn it with ornaments? present a wreath? hang mistletoe? very curious indeed.

do you celebrate on the 25th of December? do you tell your children of reindeer and santa claus? elves? the workshop? north pole? do you purchase candy canes? do you buy gifts for others on this day?

Just because we are christians, DOESNT mean we can't put ornaments on our tree...

Santa claus is just a myth that purpose-seeking people believe in...

CHRISTMAS IS NOT THE ADAPTION OF PAGAN BELIEFS!!!!!!!!

I don't EVER want to hear something like that again...

Christmas is a time of celebrating Jesus' birth.

There is only ONE bible, and only ONE true religion.

I hope you one day find the person who died for YOU, and rose again, for YOU.

That person, is Christ Jesus.

"In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.

The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia's concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus' birthday."

Link

Pretty interesting stuff.

Jebus, of course! :P

But I suppose its meaning could be anything you make it; I'm a festive existentialist. :P

[QUOTE="oblivionownn"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

christmas is an adaptation of pagan celebration - kind of ironic you would support if given your literal interpretation angle re: the Bible that you and BR seem to follow.

i'm curious. do you buy a tree? adorn it with ornaments? present a wreath? hang mistletoe? very curious indeed.

do you celebrate on the 25th of December? do you tell your children of reindeer and santa claus? elves? the workshop? north pole? do you purchase candy canes? do you buy gifts for others on this day?

ownage_denied

Just because we are christians, DOESNT mean we can't put ornaments on our tree...

Santa claus is just a myth that purpose-seeking people believe in...

CHRISTMAS IS NOT THE ADAPTION OF PAGAN BELIEFS!!!!!!!!

I don't EVER want to hear something like that again...

Christmas is a time of celebrating Jesus' birth.

There is only ONE bible, and only ONE true religion.

I hope you one day find the person who died for YOU, and rose again, for YOU.

That person, is Christ Jesus.

"In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.

The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia's concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus' birthday."

Link

Pretty interesting stuff.

I am actually surpirsed how few actually know this. I learned that a long time ago, back in 9th grade when we were required to take World Religions. Its funny because if I recall you can find all of this info in the Catholic Encyclopedia. Don't quote me on that since its been a while since I worked at the county library.

[QUOTE="oblivionownn"]CHRISTMAS IS NOT THE ADAPTION OF PAGAN BELIEFS!!!!!!!!

I don't EVER want to hear something like that again...

Christmas is a time of celebrating Jesus' birth.

There is only ONE bible, and only ONE true religion.

I hope you one day find the person who died for YOU, and rose again, for YOU.

That person, is Christ Jesus.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
I believe it is about celebrating the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
(Matthew 1:21) - "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins."
Please note: This topic's purpose is evangelism; please keep the topic relating around Christian subjects - i.e. the Bible, and, of course, the question.
Thank you, and God bless,
Crushmaster.

oblivionownn

christmas is an adaptation of pagan celebration - kind of ironic you would support if given your literal interpretation angle re: the Bible that you and BR seem to follow.

i'm curious. do you buy a tree? adorn it with ornaments? present a wreath? hang mistletoe? very curious indeed.

do you celebrate on the 25th of December? do you tell your children of reindeer and santa claus? elves? the workshop? north pole? do you purchase candy canes? do you buy gifts for others on this day?

Just because we are christians, DOESNT mean we can't put ornaments on our tree...

Santa claus is just a myth that purpose-seeking people believe in...

CHRISTMAS IS NOT THE ADAPTION OF PAGAN BELIEFS!!!!!!!!

I don't EVER want to hear something like that again...

Christmas is a time of celebrating Jesus' birth.

There is only ONE bible, and only ONE true religion.

I hope you one day find the person who died for YOU, and rose again, for YOU.

That person, is Christ Jesus.

and calm down mate, this is a simple question not directed at you. i will never bow to people that tell me they don't want to hear the truth - if you read the links and history texts it's quite obvious that the current holiday we celebrate was adopted to try to lure / draw pagans in to the flock ages ago. read up on Saturnalia, people have provided links.

[QUOTE="oblivionownn"]CHRISTMAS IS NOT THE ADAPTION OF PAGAN BELIEFS!!!!!!!!

I don't EVER want to hear something like that again...

Christmas is a time of celebrating Jesus' birth.

There is only ONE bible, and only ONE true religion.

I hope you one day find the person who died for YOU, and rose again, for YOU.

That person, is Christ Jesus.foxhound_fox

I agree! While I am a follower of Christ and think that He alone is the only way to God the Father I don't celebrate christmas. With its pagan origins I feel uncomfortable celebrating it. That is just me though. That isn't some legalistic thing I put on others. That is just my personal feelings.

Christmas means Christ's Mass

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Christmas means Christ's Mass

Funky_Llama

Ah, I never knew that. You learn something new every day. :P

[Middle English Cristemas, from Old English Crstes mæsse, Christ's festival : Crst, Christ; see Christ + mæsse, festival; see Mass.]

it isn't mass in the contemporary christian sense, but maesse, as in 'festival'.

presents

to get free stuff and food.

I think Christmas is about recieving gifts, and then sharing those gifts with your family/friends. Heres an example:

When was young i used to play with yu-gi-oh cards with my brosthers and cousins. And at christmas we would get some cards and play with eachother. Thats what i think christmas is all about.

Because my christmas as always been like that, giving, giving, giving and giving, I got showered with gifts, sometimes I was so consumed by greed I even teared open some presents when I wasn't suppose to. But now that I am older I could care less of materials, unless they benefit me in some way. Either way everyone loves gifts.tzar3

The true meaning is to celebrate the birth of christ, but another secondry meaning has come along with it and takes president over the true meaning now days.123625

well the holiday itself was fashioned for commercialism.. (santa clause actually has the coca cola colors) but to me its just spending time with friends and familyJetLag123

^This. December 25 was very likely not actually Jesus Christ's birthday.

[QUOTE="123625"]The true meaning is to celebrate the birth of christ, but another secondry meaning has come along with it and takes president over the true meaning now days.Crushmaster

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="123625"]The true meaning is to celebrate the birth of christ, but another secondry meaning has come along with it and takes president over the true meaning now days.123625