Wake up........

No, I see the matrix for what it is!

You may never wake up, but you have to wake up for yourself, you feel there isn't something right about this reality, you start wanting to be more spiritual and start to see the world differently. Then you start wanting to learn more about the truth, I may appear insane but this world is insane! This isn't about me feeling better than other people, for saying herp derp your a sheeple, this is about spreading truth. I don't feel superior to any one, I am trapped in my cell, but I see the bars! We are infinite consciousness having an experience, when you feel like some one is staring at you, then you turn around to look at them straight in the eyes, you are looking at another part of yourself, you knew someone is looking at you because it is another part of you. You are unique expression of infinite consciousness, but something hijacked this reality long ago, wanting use to be divided, full of hatred, and to become a drone. You notice that if you feeling a certain emotion, you always bump into someone feeling the same emotions, when you angry, you tend to come in contact with other angry people. There is a lot of scientific research to back up what David Icke is saying. Scientists now agree that according to the laws of quantum mechanics, matter can be in two places at the same time. It can even be millions of lights years apart and still be connected without physical contact. He explains why we are physic, how magicians can alter the reality of someones believes, like Derren Brown. You hear how athletes perform better when they are being watched, that is because peopled positive energy are focused on them on events such as the Olympics. The people who rule this world, dam right know what the Pyramids actually do, how symbols really work, they know how this reality truly works. Interesting experiment on water here, words and symbols, have more meaning than you can imagination.

you're either a dedicated troll, or need to get a life.

Truth usually has hard facts behind it

Probably both

Ultimate, you jump from strange claims about quantum mechanics to pseudo-scientific claims such as

"but something hijacked this reality long ago, wanting use to be divided, full of hatred, and to become a drone."

and

" You hear how athletes perform better when they are being watched, that is because peopled positive energy are focused on them on events such as the Olympics."

Both claims have NO evidence to support them being in any way true. The first is an assumption, and the second can be understood with basic psychology.

What you're really talking about is the pseudo-science of "The Secret". It's bogus and claims itself to have real scientific backing. It doesn't.

http://www.livescience.com/5303-pseudoscience-secret.html

The guy is full of shit. In the meantime, check out this sick graphic! Which may or may not represent the system you think you can beat.

Ooh, did I miss the picture-quote party?

Wtf is this shit?

It's on the same level of shit of OP.

If you're now entering this thread, please follow me. Calling us close minded when he disapproves and ignores any opinion about the government if it doesn't fit his "conspiracy agenda." The only sheep here is OP listening and regurgitating to con artists that call themselves conspiracy theorists. We want to hear your opinion, your perspective, not someone else's opinion.

I am sorry I research into things, instead of letting the mainstream media tell me what to think.

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If you're now entering this thread, please follow me. Calling us close minded when he disapproves and ignores any opinion about the government if it doesn't fit his "conspiracy agenda." The only sheep here is OP listening and regurgitating to con artists that call themselves conspiracy theorists. We want to hear your opinion, your perspective, not someone else's opinion.

I want to hear your opinion, not the opinion of the mainstream media or the Government, you are the ones who are getting conned by the Government and the mainstream media.

If people just take a god dam chance to view the presentation, instead of going herp derp hes speaking against the Government, he is speaking against what Iv been taught at shcool, must be a con artist.

Everything is just a coincidence to you guys, everything just there because it is just there. Look at the back of the dollar bill

Oh it is just there, because it is there.

So your research is YouTube conspiracy vids and Disney movies? Awesome.

It's there because it was designed that way and we know who and why. But hey, if you wanna go with a bad action adventure movie plot go for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence

How is the eye of providence on the bill at all relevant to David Icke and his reptilian overlords?

Intro to all mainstream news stations

My pet rabbit could come up with a more plausible explanation than anything David Icke has said. I don't even have a pet rabbit.

I have a better idea. Listen to the No Agenda podcast. It's only 2-3 hours about current news. It analyzes the main stream media. Then gives you the real low down on what is happening.

No one is saying that, you obtuse twit. Way to fabricate a strawman rather than construct a coherent argument.

Just look at ancient history, all of the civilizations reported of Gods interbreeding with them to create a hybrid race, to make sacrifices of young virgins to the Gods, all of them worshiped the black sun, Saturn! This still goes on today in secret, Santan worship=Saturn worship.

Ah, yes the good old science, technology and media and everything. Millions of people are in on this huge secret to keep us in the dark. Nothing is a coincidence folks, the moon landing, 9/11, spherical Earth, it's all because the millions of people who are in a secret society which we all know about want it that way.

You retard. David Icke and Alex Jones are lunatic disinfo agents.

Don't even start with David Icke. That maniac claimed to be Jesus Christ!

The job of the disinfo agents is to tell you half the truth and then mislead you with a lie at the end

''OMFG OBAMA IS TELEPATHICALLY CONTROLLED BY FLYING NINJA DOGS!!!''

You think you are any different than the people who get mainstream info?

Well no you are just as misled as them.

Same BS just different flavor and smell

One type of sheep herd watches Fox News and another herd gets to watch David Icke crap and think they're any different

Listen to Alan Watt

No mumbo jumbo

Alan Watt is broke and said he had an opportunity to make good money by blaming the aliens on everything

Instead he choose to tell people the truth by visiting Republic Broadcast Network and just beg for donations for his cheap low quality books and discs.

Alan Watt makes a summary of the system based on documented books

Or even better just research on your own.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19388604/Alan-Watt-Recommended-Book-List

here are the books from people who worked in the system and contributed to it.

I don't know how you can discredit people like Carol Quigley who worked in Council of Foreign Relations and US department of defense or Zbigniew Brzezinski who was a national security advisor of United States

They are the ones who will give you an idea where the system is going.

Firstly you're wrong. What you said neither makes sense or is relevant.

As for a lot of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job - there are a lot of Americans, many of them are stupid.

Proof?

And i'm pretty sure the majority don't think it was an inside job

You are such a dumb troll. As if you know anything about science anyways

You think you any different as well? Mindlessly calling David Icke part of the conspiracy as well, then saying listen to this guy! He is totally not in it!

I keep an open mind, I actually listen to what these guys have to say then judge for myself.

Your being a conspiracy sheep now, I feel so superior because I can call the followers of David Icke sheeple who don't do their own research, so I can say I am better than them.

Most "evil ppls on earth are scientist"
Really? Can you prove it?

Can you prove any of the **** you're saying? Or are you simply parroting youtube conspiracy theorists?

@ultimate-k: Damn 9 hours. Hmm still early in the day.

That comic strip was pretty funny ^^ ^^

This is also a pretty good interview by Alex Collier in 1994, talking similar things that David Icke has been saying. Only 2 hours long as well if you cba watching a 9 hour presentation.

We shouldn't be fighting on forums against one another, I just want people just to open their minds, and not blindly listen to their Governments and mainstream media. You all know there isn't something right about this reality, look how many ufo sightings there has been, look at all the paranormal stuff you see and experienced, look at the Coincidences you have experienced.

I lol'd.

1/10, because you're trying.

Sniper is either a troll, or was really bad in science class. probably both

Maybe he believes anyone who uses science, is a scientist?

no one wants to watch these long ass youtube videos

Well he apparently believes a lot of stupid shit (just ask him about evolution) so anything is possible

I wish I could just force all of you to watch the presentation, the amount of information in that video is incredible, he is not insane, the media wants you to think he is insane to keep the truth away from you, Just listen! The problem with conspiracy videos is you just focusing on one dot of the complete picture, so you don't understand it, this connects everything! First part of the presentation is mainly about science, such as the electric universe, how water is consciousness, and how we are all apart of each other, how we are connected. You would understand a lot more apart yourself, at least watch first 30 minutes of it.

The Media doesn't have to tell us he's insane. We can come to that conclusion ourselves through critical thinking, and a little research on the internet.Truth is, you should be able to to that yourself...

Could you explain this? "You would understand a lot more apart yourself"
It doesn't make much sense.

First, "a part" and "apart" are two entirely different things. Complete opposites, in fact.

Second, and this is more important: What is David Icke's credibility when he talks about science? What's his scientific background? What research has he done? In what field?

lizardmen is a bit much.

You would understand that you are apart of oneness the infinite consciousness having an experience. We are all connected to one another, that is why we are physic. You can change your DNA with your own consciousness, and if your on a lower frequency such as negative feelings, and if you think someone is going to attack you, then that can become your reality, I have experienced this my self.

http://consciouslifenews.com/confirmed-science-really-change-dna-heres/

oh I see the sentence should of read "you would understand a lot more about yourself". My mistake.

There was a time I thought he was insane, a bullshitter, I used to think my mum was abit loopy for saying when I was feeling negative emotions, and dark thoughts she would say she see negative energy around you, I thought it was some new age BS. The amount of coincidences, I had, I started to think everything was pre recorded , some weeks after, I began to realise there was something more to this reality, I suddenly wanted to become more spiritual, I just ended up buying one of his books, and it opened my mind, not sure how I ended up buying it, but I did, infinite love is the only truth everything else is illusion. When I was a kid, I used to think to myself when people voted, what is stopping them from being rigged? What is stopping the Government from lieing, why do people trust them so much? I thought Africa is designed to be poor, what stops charities from taking your money for themselves? I had no proof or information but I used to wounder about things. Before I read David Icke, I was just looking at Conspiracies on a 5 sense level, never connecting the dots, I did believe 9/11 was an inside job, and that the Illuminati was heavily involved in the music industry, but that was about it. I now know alot more about what is going on, an idea of what is really going on, we are living in some sort of matrix! Question everything! Keep your mind open! You just have to be careful not to be caught up with the new age BS, I say always keep an open mind, don't 100% believe anything since evil is deceiving.

ultimate, has it ever occured to you that you might be wrong?

I haven't got time for that.

You're a massive hypocrite. Every time someone refutes a statement you make, you simply ignore them, or laugh at them and throw insults or meaningless image macros (because "A Few Good Men" is totally relevant to this discussion, y'know)?

I did not mean to offend anyone, if I did I apologies, but I just find it funny how people defend the Government, and mindlessly believe what the mainstream media tell them, well actually it annoys me, the Government is not your friend, neither are the big corporations , do you really think the Government give a crap about you? They only want to keep you in line. All they want to do is use tax payers money to slaughter other human beings for their own agendas, build nuclear warheads, and say war=peace, that is insane. I just want people to give the presentation a chance, so they will know what information I know. I know I seem like a hypocrite at times, well I am kinda of at times, but are we not all?

If you see they live, that can not be possibly further from the truth, I was kinda spooked out how close to the truth it was.

Nobody in this thread has been "defending the Government." Do you actually read anything we've been posting? In this entire discussion you've done nothing to actually address arguments, and every time someone has refuted your points you've simply ignored them, jumped through mental gymnastics, or, in this case, fabricated a strawman of the opposition, usually along the lines of "dude, you only listen to the mainstream media." It's presumptuous and obnoxious.