[QUOTE="Laihendi"]I am curious to know how Socrates, Aristotle, Leonardo da Vinci, George Washington, Ayn Rand, and Ron Paul are no more significant than a speck of dust. If you are no more significant than a speck of dust, then it is because that is what you choose to be.Aljosa23
LMAO at you putting those first 4 people with Ayn Rand and Ron Paul. Your intellectual dishonesty disgusts me. I am not intellectually dishonest. You are intellectually dishonest. You live your life faking reality, pretending that A is not A. Socrates, Aristotle, Leonardo da Vinci, George Washington were all champions of reason and intellect. They were champions of the inviolate human mind just as Ayn Rand was, and just as Ron Paul is today. You pretend that Ayn Rand and Ron Paul are villains - not because they are, but because it is politically fashionable to do so.
In all actuality, you haven't. You are a subpar debater.
If I am a sub-par debater, then why have I never lost one? And sammitch, alternet is not a credible source of information. That "article" is full of subjective language and irrelevant ad hominem attacks. It also contains no sources to back up its claims. Alternet is a massive left-wing political blog, not a serious news organization.
In all actuality, you haven't. You are a subpar debater.
coolbeans90
If I am a sub-par debater, then why have I never lost one?
You lose the majority of your debates.
ofc not arguing with troll b/c that means u win
gg;wp
I would win because I am right. You are afraid to debate me because you know your premises are false. You call me a troll as an excuse and as a means to save face with the community here, not because you believe I am one. It used to greatly upset me when you called me a troll, but now I understand your motive. You cannot damage my reputation, because I have integrity and you do not.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"] If I am a sub-par debater, then why have I never lost one?Laihendi
You lose the majority of your debates.
ofc not arguing with troll b/c that means u win
gg;wp
I would win because I am right. You are afraid to debate me because you know your premises are false. You call me a troll as an excuse and as a means to save face with the community here, not because you believe I am one. It used to greatly upset me when you called me a troll, but now I understand your motive. You cannot damage my reputation, because I have integrity and you do not. Actually we debate you in spite of you being a troll (something everyone on OT agrees on). You have a funny premise though and there isn't very many trolls who go to the objectivist angle, presumably because it's such a ridiculous philosophy most don't see the need to try.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"] If I am a sub-par debater, then why have I never lost one?Laihendi
You lose the majority of your debates.
ofc not arguing with troll b/c that means u win
gg;wp
I would win because I am right. You are afraid to debate me because you know your premises are false. You call me a troll as an excuse and as a means to save face with the community here, not because you believe I am one. It used to greatly upset me when you called me a troll, but now I understand your motive. You cannot damage my reputation, because I have integrity and you do not.
I am not afraid of you - you would lose independent of that. I, not you, hold an OTcar for best debater, that you apparently desire more than I. Well, not really, b/c ur a trawl.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]I am curious to know how Socrates, Aristotle, Leonardo da Vinci, George Washington, Ayn Rand, and Ron Paul are no more significant than a speck of dust. If you are no more significant than a speck of dust, then it is because that is what you choose to be.Laihendi
LMAO at you putting those first 4 people with Ayn Rand and Ron Paul. Your intellectual dishonesty disgusts me. I am not intellectually dishonest. You are intellectually dishonest. You live your life faking reality, pretending that A is not A. Socrates, Aristotle, Leonardo da Vinci, George Washington were all champions of reason and intellect. They were champions of the inviolate human mind just as Ayn Rand was, and just as Ron Paul is today. You pretend that Ayn Rand and Ron Paul are villains - not because they are, but because it is politically fashionable to do so.george washington was a very sh1tty general.
In all actuality, you haven't. You are a subpar debater.
If I am a sub-par debater, then why have I never lost one? And sammitch, alternet is not a credible source of information. That "article" is full of subjective language and irrelevant ad hominem attacks. It also contains no sources to back up its claims. Alternet is a massive left-wing political blog, not a serious news organization.I don't think you've ever won a debate. You're just too stupid and self centered to ever admit you're wrong.
Also, yes, anything that doesn't agree with you is wrong :roll:
I would win because I am right. You are afraid to debate me because you know your premises are false. You call me a troll as an excuse and as a means to save face with the community here, not because you believe I am one. It used to greatly upset me when you called me a troll, but now I understand your motive. You cannot damage my reputation, because I have integrity and you do not.
I am not afraid of you - you would lose independent of that. I, not you, hold an OTcar for best debater, that you apparently desire more than I. Well, not really, b/c ur a trawl.
I studied the 2012 OTcars as part of my preparation for hosting in 2013, and Sun Tzu actually won by one vote. You only tied if his self-vote was discounted, and there is no rational reason to do that. People voted for you and Sun Tzu as best debater because you both always take the mainstream liberal side on any issue, which is what the masses here agree with. It had nothing to do with actual debating skills. I was voted worst debater by my enemies out of spite because I shamed them in every debate they had with me. I was banned from TDH for the same reason. I should never have been banned from TDH.
I would win because I am right. You are afraid to debate me because you know your premises are false. You call me a troll as an excuse and as a means to save face with the community here, not because you believe I am one. It used to greatly upset me when you called me a troll, but now I understand your motive. You cannot damage my reputation, because I have integrity and you do not. Actually we debate you in spite of you being a troll (something everyone on OT agrees on). You have a funny premise though and there isn't very many trolls who go to the objectivist angle, presumably because it's such a ridiculous philosophy most don't see the need to try. I suspect he's kk or shadowmoses.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"] I would win because I am right. You are afraid to debate me because you know your premises are false. You call me a troll as an excuse and as a means to save face with the community here, not because you believe I am one. It used to greatly upset me when you called me a troll, but now I understand your motive. You cannot damage my reputation, because I have integrity and you do not.Laihendi
I am not afraid of you - you would lose independent of that. I, not you, hold an OTcar for best debater, that you apparently desire more than I. Well, not really, b/c ur a trawl.
I studied the 2012 OTcars as part of my preparation for hosting in 2013, and Sun Tzu actually won by one vote. You only tied if his self-vote was discounted, and there is no rational reason to do that. People voted for you and Sun Tzu as best debater because you both always take the mainstream liberal side on any issue, which is what the masses here agree with. It had nothing to do with actual debating skills. I was voted worst debater by my enemies out of spite because I shamed them in every debate they had with me. I was banned from TDH for the same reason. I should never have been banned from TDH.Teenage d1ck heads?
I am not afraid of you - you would lose independent of that. I, not you, hold an OTcar for best debater, that you apparently desire more than I. Well, not really, b/c ur a trawl.
MakeMeaSammitch
I studied the 2012 OTcars as part of my preparation for hosting in 2013, and Sun Tzu actually won by one vote. You only tied if his self-vote was discounted, and there is no rational reason to do that. People voted for you and Sun Tzu as best debater because you both always take the mainstream liberal side on any issue, which is what the masses here agree with. It had nothing to do with actual debating skills. I was voted worst debater by my enemies out of spite because I shamed them in every debate they had with me. I was banned from TDH for the same reason. I should never have been banned from TDH.Teenage d1ck heads? I do not understand what you are saying.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]I studied the 2012 OTcars as part of my preparation for hosting in 2013, and Sun Tzu actually won by one vote. You only tied if his self-vote was discounted, and there is no rational reason to do that. People voted for you and Sun Tzu as best debater because you both always take the mainstream liberal side on any issue, which is what the masses here agree with. It had nothing to do with actual debating skills. I was voted worst debater by my enemies out of spite because I shamed them in every debate they had with me. I was banned from TDH for the same reason. I should never have been banned from TDH.Laihendi
Teenage d1ck heads? I do not understand what you are saying.TDH
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]I studied the 2012 OTcars as part of my preparation for hosting in 2013, and Sun Tzu actually won by one vote. You only tied if his self-vote was discounted, and there is no rational reason to do that. People voted for you and Sun Tzu as best debater because you both always take the mainstream liberal side on any issue, which is what the masses here agree with. It had nothing to do with actual debating skills. I was voted worst debater by my enemies out of spite because I shamed them in every debate they had with me. I was banned from TDH for the same reason. I should never have been banned from TDH.Laihendi
Teenage d1ck heads? I do not understand what you are saying. TDH = Teenage d1ck heads. Whatever TDH is.
No, I recognize a woman's right to her body.but what about the life of the fetus? Doesn't it's life have value? No it does not. A life that cannot value itself has no inherent value.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"] No, I recognize a woman's right to her body.coolbeans90
but what about the life of the fetus? Doesn't it's life have value?
I think it does.
The only value it has it that which is imposed on it by others. The only imposed value that matters is that of the mother, because it grows from her body.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"] No, I recognize a woman's right to her body.Laihendi
but what about the life of the fetus? Doesn't it's life have value? No it does not. A life that cannot value itself has no inherent value. That said would you be okay with putting down people you consider "looters"?
[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]but what about the life of the fetus? Doesn't it's life have value?Ace6301
No it does not. A life that cannot value itself has no inherent value. That said would you be okay with putting down people you consider "looters"? What does that have to do with abortions?
[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] No it does not. A life that cannot value itself has no inherent value. That said would you be okay with putting down people you consider "looters"? What does that have to do with abortions? Why aren't you answering?
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]The only value it has it that which is imposed on it by others.coolbeans90
That is precisely how value works. As another market-oriented fella, I'd expected that you'd realize as much.
And you are conveniently leaving out the rest of my post which demonstrates why abortion should be legal. And Ace I am not answering because I do not see the relevance of the question.
And Ace I am not answering because I do not see the relevance of the question.Laihendi
We're talking about your views are we not? The abortion question was just as irrelevant as this and yet you answered it. Is it perhaps because the answer is yes?
You vote for Obama and you talk about how interested you are in studying books by socialists and communists, and then you claim to not be a left-wing liberal. You have no right to determine by skill as a debater because you are drunk. You have no right to determine anything because you are intoxicated. I am not a twat, and I never have been. I was banned from TDH for expressing libertarian and Objectivist views in the Unpopular Opinions thread, which is absurd. It is absurd to ban someone for expressing political/philosophical views, especially when they are concerned with advocating human rights, and even more so when it is an unpopular opinion in a place supposedly for such unpopular opinion. That whole forum is a fraud.Laihendi
Intoxication merely lessens my social inhibitions to call things precisely as I see them when sober. I did not vote for Obama, you trolly, poor-debating twat. That place is a gem.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]And you are conveniently leaving out the rest of my post which demonstrates why abortion should be legal.coolbeans90
Presumably, they stem from the same reasons why you think parents should be able to rape and murder their children without repercussions from the state.
What does that have to do with anything? No rational parent would do that anyways so it is a non-issue. And Ace, obviously I am not advocating that looters be killed. However, I do support a nation-wide protest against paying taxes. We should stop paying taxes, refuse court orders, and when the government comes and forces us out of our homes at the point of a gun then the world will see them for what they are: violent thugs.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]And you are conveniently leaving out the rest of my post which demonstrates why abortion should be legal.Laihendi
Presumably, they stem from the same reasons why you think parents should be able to rape and murder their children without repercussions from the state.
What does that have to do with anything? No rational parent would do that anyways so it is a non-issue.
It is an issue because "irrational" (I think "immoral" would be more fitting, but I digress) parents exist.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"] And Ace, obviously I am not advocating that looters be killed. However, I do support a nation-wide protest against paying taxes. We should stop paying taxes, refuse court orders, and when the government comes and forces us out of our homes at the point of a gun then the world will see them for what they are: violent thugs. Well it's nice that you're willing to be inconsistent with your views in that regard. Actually chances are an uneventful arrest of a couple dozen tax dodgers would go completely unnoticed. Most people recognize the importance of taxes and government and as such would probably just view you as a bunch of leeches.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] And Ace, obviously I am not advocating that looters be killed. However, I do support a nation-wide protest against paying taxes. We should stop paying taxes, refuse court orders, and when the government comes and forces us out of our homes at the point of a gun then the world will see them for what they are: violent thugs. Well it's nice that you're willing to be inconsistent with your views in that regard. Actually chances are an uneventful arrest of a couple dozen tax dodgers would go completely unnoticed. Most people recognize the importance of taxes and government and as such would probably just view you as a bunch of leeches. How am I inconsistent? Do not call me inconsistent. I am not inconsistent.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] And Ace, obviously I am not advocating that looters be killed. However, I do support a nation-wide protest against paying taxes. We should stop paying taxes, refuse court orders, and when the government comes and forces us out of our homes at the point of a gun then the world will see them for what they are: violent thugs. Well it's nice that you're willing to be inconsistent with your views in that regard. Actually chances are an uneventful arrest of a couple dozen tax dodgers would go completely unnoticed. Most people recognize the importance of taxes and government and as such would probably just view you as a bunch of leeches. How am I inconsistent? Do not call me inconsistent. I am not inconsistent. You've said in the past that those on government assistance programs are lazy and can't respect themselves. You say a fetus doesn't deserve a right to life because it can't form or respect its own life. Thankfully you're unwilling to advocate killing people based on how they perceive themselves.
1- Woman Heartbreak! Playing the game of a relationship well its a hard thing to win! Its awful heartbreak! I pretty much lost my mind from an abusive relationship recently. Still recovering now! Takes years sometimes. 2- Smoking 3- Drugs maybe or just loneliness! < Nothing worse
Damn it, Lai. Why couldn't you just post heart disease or cancer as your answer. The thread derailed about six or so pages ago thanks to your "assassination" answer. FYI, the vast majority of politicians will die from either old age or some disease, not assassination.Â
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]I am curious to know how Socrates, Aristotle, Leonardo da Vinci, George Washington, Ayn Rand, and Ron Paul are no more significant than a speck of dust. If you are no more significant than a speck of dust, then it is because that is what you choose to be.Laihendi
LMAO at you putting those first 4 people with Ayn Rand and Ron Paul. Your intellectual dishonesty disgusts me. I am not intellectually dishonest. You are intellectually dishonest. You live your life faking reality, pretending that A is not A. Socrates, Aristotle, Leonardo da Vinci, George Washington were all champions of reason and intellect. They were champions of the inviolate human mind just as Ayn Rand was, and just as Ron Paul is today. You pretend that Ayn Rand and Ron Paul are villains - not because they are, but because it is politically fashionable to do so.Unless you can directly prove that they were Libertarians/Objectivists you are either trolling or talking out of your ass, as usual.
You cannot criticize my ideas because you have no means to do so. My ideas are based on non-contradictory objective reality. If you disagree then read Atlas Shrugged. If you still disagree then you are close-minded and ignorant.
Perhaps some heart trouble down the line as it does seem fairly common on my fathers side. However I do try hard to eat right and exercise fairly regularly. Other than that I have no idea as I don't think I could ever take my life with suicide no matter how bad things get. Well outside something quite extraordinarily bad happening to me. Such as the loss of more than one of my senses. Also I tend to avoid drugs like the plague only when in lots of pain will I take a drug. Small amounts of pain usually I prefer to keep so my body can tell me whats wrong and give clues to fix it naturally.
[QUOTE="Laihendi"] No, I recognize a woman's right to her body.Laihendi
but what about the life of the fetus? Doesn't it's life have value? No it does not. A life that cannot value itself has no inherent value.how do you know it doesn't value itself? Are you a fetus?
How do you know god doesn't value it. Are you god?
[QUOTE="Laihendi"]And you are conveniently leaving out the rest of my post which demonstrates why abortion should be legal.coolbeans90
Presumably, they stem from the same reasons why you think parents should be able to rape and murder their children without repercussions from the state.
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