There is no evidence that shows Christian beliefs are false

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#1 gameking5000
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People often say "Oh, there's no evidence that Jesus lived" and that God doesn't exist etc. But there isn't any that disproves Jesus and God exists.

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#3 tenaka2
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People often say "Oh, there's no evidence that Jesus lived" and that God doesn't exist etc. But there isn't any that disproves Jesus and God exists.

gameking5000

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Your thread title and your post content clash. We may not be able to outright prove that there is no higher power, but it is possible to show evidence that the BIBLE (where a lot of the beliefs of Christianity are based from) is full of a lot of BS and fabrication. For example, there is no such thing as spontaneous virgin impregnation, by a higher power or not. You can't get preggo out of nowhere, you learned this in sex ed. Also, for a couple desperate for a child, one might think they'd engage in the actions which are necessary to produce a child. That story is ridiculous, and every religious person out there knows it. If Jesus and/or God do exist, that's one thing that doesn't have real solid proof for or against it either way, but the 'filler' stories and bs in the bible like that are certainly able to be proved false, unlikely and/or completely stupid.
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Christianity is almost identicle to an old Egyptian religion but i can't for the life of me remember what the religion was called. Can someone help me out here?

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Christianity is almost identicle to an old Egyptian religion but i can't for the life of me remember what the religion was called. Can someone help me out here?

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Christianity is nothing more than a Jewish sect, and Judaism originated from Atenism, or the cult of Aten. I believe that's the "old Egyptian religion" you were referring to. Probably the first monotheistic (some say henotheistic) religion.
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People often say "Oh, there's no evidence that Jesus lived" and that God doesn't exist etc. But there isn't any that disproves Jesus and God exists.

gameking5000

and there is nothing that proves he existed what so ever end of story!

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People often say "Oh, there's no evidence that Jesus lived" and that God doesn't exist etc. But there isn't any that disproves Jesus and God exists.

gameking5000
So there is no evidence for or against this religion. That's because it doesn't exist. It's just a story, nothing more. No different from Scientology.
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Wow, you're a really deep thinker.
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Look up Russell's Teapot. Be enlightened.
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Christianity is almost identicle to an old Egyptian religion but i can't for the life of me remember what the religion was called. Can someone help me out here?

The_Gaming_Baby

I have no idea if Egyptian mythology has a name, but it borrows some from Egyptian mythology. It also borrows from Zoroastrianism and probably a hundred other religions before it.

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Religion makes no sense. It creates more trouble in the world than good.
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cool story bropygmahia5

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#14 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="gameking5000"]

People often say "Oh, there's no evidence that Jesus lived" and that God doesn't exist etc. But there isn't any that disproves Jesus and God exists.

tenaka2

I am from the planet jupiter, my species is quite lucky, life only exists on a small number of gas giants. I am 27,000 years old and I navigate though the gas layers using a complex bladder floatation system. I am also host to a varied parasitic ecosystem.

But it can get boring just floating about so I post here for the lols.

You are comparing apples and oranges......

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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Your thread title and your post content clash. We may not be able to outright prove that there is no higher power, but it is possible to show evidence that the BIBLE (where a lot of the beliefs of Christianity are based from) is full of a lot of BS and fabrication. For example, there is no such thing as spontaneous virgin impregnation, by a higher power or not. You can't get preggo out of nowhere, you learned this in sex ed. Also, for a couple desperate for a child, one might think they'd engage in the actions which are necessary to produce a child. That story is ridiculous, and every religious person out there knows it. If Jesus and/or God do exist, that's one thing that doesn't have real solid proof for or against it either way, but the 'filler' stories and bs in the bible like that are certainly able to be proved false, unlikely and/or completely stupid.

No with the physical natural world that doesn't happen. However, it isn't said to have happened in the natural world. Not a good analogy.
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="gameking5000"]

People often say "Oh, there's no evidence that Jesus lived" and that God doesn't exist etc. But there isn't any that disproves Jesus and God exists.

LJS9502_basic

I am from the planet jupiter, my species is quite lucky, life only exists on a small number of gas giants. I am 27,000 years old and I navigate though the gas layers using a complex bladder floatation system. I am also host to a varied parasitic ecosystem.

But it can get boring just floating about so I post here for the lols.

You are comparing apples and oranges......

i agree. life on other planets is very likely. but the jesus thing is very unlikely
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="gameking5000"]

People often say "Oh, there's no evidence that Jesus lived" and that God doesn't exist etc. But there isn't any that disproves Jesus and God exists.

LJS9502_basic

I am from the planet jupiter, my species is quite lucky, life only exists on a small number of gas giants. I am 27,000 years old and I navigate though the gas layers using a complex bladder floatation system. I am also host to a varied parasitic ecosystem.

But it can get boring just floating about so I post here for the lols.

You are comparing apples and oranges......

Their both fruit though, so you have to give him some merit. (oranges taste better, imo)

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#18 XileLord
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There's no evidence that shows my imaginary best friend doesn't exist so come at me bro


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#19 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I am from the planet jupiter, my species is quite lucky, life only exists on a small number of gas giants. I am 27,000 years old and I navigate though the gas layers using a complex bladder floatation system. I am also host to a varied parasitic ecosystem.

But it can get boring just floating about so I post here for the lols.

lloveLamp

You are comparing apples and oranges......

i agree. life on other planets is very likely. but the jesus thing is very unlikely

At this point in time I'd say equal. Not one more than the other.
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An inability to invalidate a hypothesis is not the same as proving it to be true.

Metaphysical claims have always fallen outside the realm of falsifiability, and therefore their worth can never be thought of as tangible.

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#21 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="lloveLamp"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You are comparing apples and oranges......

LJS9502_basic

i agree. life on other planets is very likely. but the jesus thing is very unlikely

At this point in time I'd say equal. Not one more than the other.

I imagine your opinion would be rather unique, there is at least some evidence supporting life on other planets.

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That is some deep thoughts you got there.
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#23 LJS9502_basic
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Christianity is almost identicle to an old Egyptian religion but i can't for the life of me remember what the religion was called. Can someone help me out here?

The_Gaming_Baby
Almost? For instance.....
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#24 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="lloveLamp"] i agree. life on other planets is very likely. but the jesus thing is very unlikelytenaka2

At this point in time I'd say equal. Not one more than the other.

I imagine your opinion would be rather unique, there is at least some evidence supporting life on other planets.

I'm talking intelligent life FYI.....and I'd like to see that evidence.
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#25 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]At this point in time I'd say equal. Not one more than the other.LJS9502_basic

I imagine your opinion would be rather unique, there is at least some evidence supporting life on other planets.

I'm talking intelligent life FYI.....and I'd like to see that evidence.

Live came into being on this planet, we know there are billions and billions of other planets.

There is nothing to support religion.

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No with the physical natural world that doesn't happen. However, it isn't said to have happened in the natural world. Not a good analogy.LJS9502_basic

The way you worded that amused me... it makes it sound as if Mary was not on earth when she was impregnated.

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The argument of Christ and God's existence will forever be in a loop. You can't prove He doesn't exist vs You can't prove he does exist.

This is a trivial argument that should be ignored, why, because you're not going to get anywhere with it. Give it a rest. I believe in God and I know He's real. I'm not going to argue that He is because I already know that He is. I would suggest the same for you TC.

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There is no evidence that shows Baha'i beliefs are false
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No with the physical natural world that doesn't happen. However, it isn't said to have happened in the natural world. Not a good analogy.Baconbits2004

The way you worded that amused me... it makes it sound as if Mary was not on earth when she was impregnated.

She wasn't, she was in the mother ship.

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TC, if that's your threshhold for your beliefs, then what's stopping you from believing in any other religion in the world?
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#31 tenaka2
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There is no evidence that shows Baha'i beliefs are falseultimameteora

Considering baha was dreamed up only a few years ago is there even a need to disprove it?

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mother ship.

tenaka2

ROFL.

That works in so many ways.

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why do people feel so compelled to either prove or disprove a theory based on faith, if either is achieved the theory is destroyed as it no longer requires faith...

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

mother ship.

Baconbits2004

ROFL.

That works in so many ways.

is she hot?

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that is because it is very adaptable and it is impossible to disprove a fantasy story which was from the times before any sort of records were kept...

but there is no evidence to prove it at all, whereas scientific theories have lots of things to back them up.

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that is because it is very adaptable and it is impossible to disprove a fantasy story which was from the times before any sort of records were kept...

but there is no evidence to prove it at all, whereas scientific theories have lots of things to back them up.

PcGamingRig

before any sort of records were kept..... i wonder how we know about Alexander the great, he predated Christ, that is just the first thing to come to mind, any historical BC event or person would do.

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[QUOTE="PcGamingRig"]

that is because it is very adaptable and it is impossible to disprove a fantasy story which was from the times before any sort of records were kept...

but there is no evidence to prove it at all, whereas scientific theories have lots of things to back them up.

surrealnumber5

before any sort of records were kept..... i wonder how we know about Alexander the great, he predated Christ, that is just the first thing to come to mind, any historical BC event or person would do.

hmmm, yea but... there was proof in items and records that alexander the great existed. if jesus was such an amazing person and did all the things that are claimed, you would think there would atleast be a trace of him...

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="PcGamingRig"]

that is because it is very adaptable and it is impossible to disprove a fantasy story which was from the times before any sort of records were kept...

but there is no evidence to prove it at all, whereas scientific theories have lots of things to back them up.

PcGamingRig

before any sort of records were kept..... i wonder how we know about Alexander the great, he predated Christ, that is just the first thing to come to mind, any historical BC event or person would do.

hmmm, yea but... there was proof in items and records that alexander the great existed. if jesus was such an amazing person and did all the things that are claimed, you would think there would atleast be a trace of him...

and depending where you sit in the debate there is or is not.

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Live came into being on this planet, we know there are billions and billions of other planets.There is nothing to support religion.tenaka2
But we have no evidence that there is life on those billions and billions of planets. You are going by "likely". Which is not proof.
The way you worded that amused me... it makes it sound as if Mary was not on earth when she was impregnated.Baconbits2004
She wasn't the one I was saying wasn't natural.;)

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="PcGamingRig"]

that is because it is very adaptable and it is impossible to disprove a fantasy story which was from the times before any sort of records were kept...

but there is no evidence to prove it at all, whereas scientific theories have lots of things to back them up.

PcGamingRig

before any sort of records were kept..... i wonder how we know about Alexander the great, he predated Christ, that is just the first thing to come to mind, any historical BC event or person would do.

hmmm, yea but... there was proof in items and records that alexander the great existed. if jesus was such an amazing person and did all the things that are claimed, you would think there would atleast be a trace of him...

He was mentioned by some historians....and in the NT. While one may debate the "faith" part of the Bible they should not debate the historical part.

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He was mentioned by some historians....and in the NT. While one may debate the "faith" part of the Bible they should not debate the historical part.

LJS9502_basic
How are we to separate the two?
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[QUOTE="PcGamingRig"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] before any sort of records were kept..... i wonder how we know about Alexander the great, he predated Christ, that is just the first thing to come to mind, any historical BC event or person would do.

LJS9502_basic

hmmm, yea but... there was proof in items and records that alexander the great existed. if jesus was such an amazing person and did all the things that are claimed, you would think there would atleast be a trace of him...

He was mentioned by some historians....and in the NT. While one may debate the "faith" part of the Bible they should not debate the historical part.

Yes they should, If the Bible is believed to be factually wrong on so many accounts as to bring into question its legitimacy then what makes you think the Historical accounts held within are any more reliable?

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#43 Baconbits2004
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She wasn't the one I was saying wasn't natural.;)

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I figured. =p

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Just because you cannot disprove something that has no proof of existing in the first place, doesn't mean that proves its existence.

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#45 Baconbits2004
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Just because you cannot disprove something that has no proof of existing in the first place, doesn't mean that proves its existence.

Wasdie

Reminds me of the ol' space pie theory.

At least I think that's what it was.
You can't disprove that there isn't a slice of pie floating in space, just because you can't find it. Therefore it could exist.

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The argument of Christ and God's existence will forever be in a loop. You can't prove He doesn't exist vs You can't prove he does exist.

This is a trivial argument that should be ignored, why, because you're not going to get anywhere with it. Give it a rest. I believe in God and I know He's real. I'm not going to argue that He is because I already know that He is. I would suggest the same for you TC.

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Well, I know there is no God, at least not in the sense you mean. So there. Besides, if you knew he existed you would have no need for belief.
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Just because you cannot disprove something that has no proof of existing in the first place, doesn't mean that proves its existence.

Baconbits2004


Reminds me of the ol' space pie theory.

At least I think that's what it was.
You can't disprove that there isn't a slice of pie floating in space, just because you can't find it. Therefore it could exist.



The Common argument is known as Russell's Teapot.

"Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="PcGamingRig"]hmmm, yea but... there was proof in items and records that alexander the great existed. if jesus was such an amazing person and did all the things that are claimed, you would think there would atleast be a trace of him...

mattisgod01

He was mentioned by some historians....and in the NT. While one may debate the "faith" part of the Bible they should not debate the historical part.

Yes they should, If the Bible is believed to be factually wrong on so many accounts as to bring into question its legitimacy then what makes you think the Historical accounts held within are any more reliable?

And that would be?
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The Common argument is known as Russell's Teapot.

"Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."

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That's the one. :3

Thank you for finding that.

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#50 Spitfirer
Member since 2007 • 2088 Posts
I believe all human beings are too worthless to find out whether or not God exists till they die and even then, they'll probably never find out.