Pentagon seeking $400mil to buy more missile defense systems for Israel

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#51 tenaka2
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Why can't Israel pay for this themselves?chessmaster1989

They can't afford it, the Jewish people have historically been bad with money and savings.

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#52 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Why can't Israel pay for this themselves?tenaka2

They can't afford it, the Jewish people have historically been bad with money and savings.

so why you letting them control your money?

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#54 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Why can't Israel pay for this themselves?GrayF0X786

They can't afford it, the Jewish people have historically been bad with money and savings.

so why you letting them control your money?

Seriously? My comment was not serious, I am also not American, I live in UK like you.

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#55 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

They can't afford it, the Jewish people have historically been bad with money and savings.

tenaka2

so why you letting them control your money?

Seriously? My comment was not serious, I am also not American, I live in UK like you.

well they control our money aswell, the fvcking Queen just got a £5million pay rise, can you believe it.

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#56 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] so why you letting them control your money?

GrayF0X786

Seriously? My comment was not serious, I am also not American, I live in UK like you.

well they control our money aswell, the fvcking Queen just got a £5million pay rise, can you believe it.

She deserves it, the Queen is cool.

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#57 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Seriously? My comment was not serious, I am also not American, I live in UK like you.

tenaka2

well they control our money aswell, the fvcking Queen just got a £5million pay rise, can you believe it.

She deserves it, the Queen is cool.

right, and i'm the one whos brainwashed here.

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#58 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] well they control our money aswell, the fvcking Queen just got a £5million pay rise, can you believe it.

GrayF0X786

She deserves it, the Queen is cool.

right, and i'm the one whos brainwashed here.

No you are not brainwashed, I think religious nutjob works better.

 

However I do understand your dislike for the Queen, she is after all a women with an education, in your ideal world no woman would be able to read.

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#59 call_of_duty_10
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lmao

Debt of $16 trillion,and yet they give millions to others as aid.

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#60 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

She deserves it, the Queen is cool.

tenaka2

right, and i'm the one whos brainwashed here.

No you are not brainwashed, I think religious nutjob works better.

However I do understand your dislike for the Queen, she is after all a women with an education, in your ideal world no woman would be able to read.

*Yawn*

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#61 KungfuKitten
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How can a military budget that is the next 12 countries military budget combined

themajormayor

What?

Hmm $700 billion/milliard is more than the next 12 biggest military spenders combined. I was going by 2010 data.
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Oh I think I understand. My wording was off. I just think it's silly that the USA military is still asking for money.
Or is this money that went to the military anyways?
I also don't understand why Israel is so important. So I'm ignorant when it comes to Middle East stuff. I'll read up on it.
I read up on it. So it is simply because of their strategic position. One of the 3 major stabilizers in the Middle East. I don't see the Middle East as being very stable.
There must be a better solution to all this than having endless skirmishes and oppressive puppet regimes in power. It is costing us all a ton of wealth and lifes.

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#62 themajormayor
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Great news

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#63 Darkman2007
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meh , nothing to get excited over.

 

of course if the Americans want, they can withdraw their share of the program , and let Israel invade Gaza the next time there is rocket fire, though I assume they would complain then too (because of course , they need somebody to complain and blame their troubles on)

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#64 svenus97
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Seriously? My comment was not serious, I am also not American, I live in UK like you.

tenaka2

well they control our money aswell, the fvcking Queen just got a £5million pay rise, can you believe it.

She deserves it, the Queen is cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyYgnhhKFw
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#65 themajormayor
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How can a military budget that is the next 12 countries military budget combined

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What?
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#66 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

How can a military budget that is the next 12 countries military budget combined

KungfuKitten

What?

Hmm $700 billion/milliard is more than the next 12 biggest military spenders combined. I was going by 2010 data.


Oh I think I understand. My wording was off. I just think it's silly that the USA military is still asking for money.
Or is this money that went to the military anyways?
I also don't understand why Israel is so important. So I'm ignorant when it comes to Middle East stuff. I'll read up on it.

 

well, in regards to this 400 million dollars for the iron dome missle defense system , my guess is that the US really needs to avoid any sort of flare up in the Middle East, especially given the situation in Syria, another large scale conflict between Israel and Gaza would take attention away from both Syria, and by extention , from Iran.

 

having this system is really the only justification for not invading Gaza and taking care of the rocket problem that way.

 

although given the fact that 2 rockets were launched from the Sinai hit Eilat  2 days ago, Gaza isn't the only threat here.

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At least the money will be spent on something that's effective, and that saves lives. The Israelis probably could afford it on their own though, but it's not a big deal. What is problematic is the tanks and F-16s that the U.S. sent to Egypt (I think the U.S. gov't gave Egypt the money to buy the tanks and planes from U.S. companies). I think the U.S. made that deal when Mubarak was still in charge, but the gov't should've canceled that deal when Mursi took power.

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At least the money will be spent on something that's effective, and that saves lives. The Israelis probably could afford it on their own though, but it's not a big deal. What is problematic is the tanks and F-16s that the U.S. sent to Egypt (I think the U.S. gov't gave Egypt the money to buy the tanks and planes from U.S. companies). I think the U.S. made that deal when Mubarak was still in charge, but the gov't should've canceled that deal when Mursi took power.

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the aid to egypt helps keep them in line, especially with regards to israel
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#69 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

At least the money will be spent on something that's effective, and that saves lives. The Israelis probably could afford it on their own though, but it's not a big deal. What is problematic is the tanks and F-16s that the U.S. sent to Egypt (I think the U.S. gov't gave Egypt the money to buy the tanks and planes from U.S. companies). I think the U.S. made that deal when Mubarak was still in charge, but the gov't should've canceled that deal when Mursi took power.

BossPerson

the aid to egypt helps keep them in line, especially with regards to israel

We should demand though that the pilots of the F-16s be Copts.

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#70 GrayF0X786
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Is the USA a war(mongering) economy? What are they funding? A WW3?

KungfuKitten

yes, yes they are.

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#71 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]

At least the money will be spent on something that's effective, and that saves lives. The Israelis probably could afford it on their own though, but it's not a big deal. What is problematic is the tanks and F-16s that the U.S. sent to Egypt (I think the U.S. gov't gave Egypt the money to buy the tanks and planes from U.S. companies). I think the U.S. made that deal when Mubarak was still in charge, but the gov't should've canceled that deal when Mursi took power.

whipassmt

the aid to egypt helps keep them in line, especially with regards to israel

We should demand though that the pilots of the F-16s be Copts.

thats a joke, right?
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#72 Serraph105
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I see no reason for the Pentagon to work towards the reduction of missle strikes now or in the future. Instead lets give all the countries their own personal nuclear defense system.

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#73 Flubbbs
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America gives israel 8 million dollars A DAY

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#74 Sajo7
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So while Netanyahu is being ousted by people somehow more radical than himself, we decide to give them more toys?
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#75 themajormayor
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America gives israel 8 million dollars A DAY

Flubbbs
And they give muslim countries roughly $60 million dollars a day.
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#76 themajormayor
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So while Netanyahu is being ousted by people somehow more radical than himselfSajo7
By who? And netanyahu is not that radical.
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Have fun, taxpayers.

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#78 Darkman2007
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So while Netanyahu is being ousted by people somehow more radical than himself, we decide to give them more toys?Sajo7
who would that be? Bennet? thats really about it.
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#79 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"] the aid to egypt helps keep them in line, especially with regards to israel BossPerson

We should demand though that the pilots of the F-16s be Copts.

thats a joke, right?

No. I don't what Muslim Brotherhood members flying F-16s.

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#80 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

How can a military budget that is the next 12 countries military budget combined

KungfuKitten

What?

Hmm $700 billion/milliard is more than the next 12 biggest military spenders combined. I was going by 2010 data.
28s6csn.gif

Oh I think I understand. My wording was off. I just think it's silly that the USA military is still asking for money.
Or is this money that went to the military anyways?
I also don't understand why Israel is so important. So I'm ignorant when it comes to Middle East stuff. I'll read up on it.
I read up on it. So it is simply because of their strategic position. One of the 3 major stabilizers in the Middle East. I don't see the Middle East as being very stable.
There must be a better solution to all this than having endless skirmishes and oppressive puppet regimes in power. It is costing us all a ton of wealth and lifes.

Oh I thought you meant Israel has a bigger budget than the next 12 countries combined.
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#81 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] We should demand though that the pilots of the F-16s be Copts.

whipassmt

thats a joke, right?

No. I don't what Muslim Brotherhood members flying F-16s.

the US would be betraying its own principles. imagine if someone said "we want all fighter jet pilots in the US army to be black , or all of them have to be Hindu, because you can't trust whites or Christians" though the army is different to the Muslim Brotherhood, its pretty much accepted knowledge the army in Egypt is more or less a state within a state (literally with their own economy)
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#82 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] We should demand though that the pilots of the F-16s be Copts.

whipassmt

thats a joke, right?

No. I don't what Muslim Brotherhood members flying F-16s.

Well then you are insane. And pretty racist too.
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#83 BossPerson
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And the MB isn't a terrorist organization despite what most think. It's a loose organization (in the grand sense, local MB "divisions" are sometimes highly organized).

They have a wide spectrum of views 

And if you're worried about MB members with weapons, perhaps you should fear Morsi trying to bomb Israel

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It's also worth noting not all non-Copts are MB members

Seriously, you're a dumbass 

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#85 Darkman2007
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It's also worth noting not all non-Copts are MB members

Seriously, you're a dumbass 

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I have a feeling the brotherhood has lost alot of support in the last year or so, mainly because of the poor performance of the country's economy and security. they found out what every opposition movement or party finds out, its very easy to shout slogans in the street, its very different to actually run a country.
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#86 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

It's also worth noting not all non-Copts are MB members

Seriously, you're a dumbass 

Darkman2007
I have a feeling the brotherhood has lost alot of support in the last year or so, mainly because of the poor performance of the country's economy and security. they found out what every opposition movement or party finds out, its very easy to shout slogans in the street, its very different to actually run a country.

yea, and i think they're reason for election was almost entirely for economic reasons, I dont think the average Egyptian voted for them just because they would be islamist
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#87 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]

It's also worth noting not all non-Copts are MB members

Seriously, you're a dumbass 

BossPerson
I have a feeling the brotherhood has lost alot of support in the last year or so, mainly because of the poor performance of the country's economy and security. they found out what every opposition movement or party finds out, its very easy to shout slogans in the street, its very different to actually run a country.

yea, and i think they're reason for election was almost entirely for economic reasons, I dont think the average Egyptian voted for them just because they would be islamist

I thought it was almost like a protest vote. as far as I saw things, alot of people were afraid to vote for anything remotely liberal because in some people's eyes , secluar= Mubarak.
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] I have a feeling the brotherhood has lost alot of support in the last year or so, mainly because of the poor performance of the country's economy and security. they found out what every opposition movement or party finds out, its very easy to shout slogans in the street, its very different to actually run a country.

yea, and i think they're reason for election was almost entirely for economic reasons, I dont think the average Egyptian voted for them just because they would be islamist

I thought it was almost like a protest vote. as far as I saw things, alot of people were afraid to vote for anything remotely liberal because in some people's eyes , secluar= Mubarak.

and dont forget that in the 2nd round of voting, the two choices were essentially Mubarak's (former PM iirc?) and Morsi. 2 pretty horrible choices imo
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]thats a joke, right? Darkman2007

No. I don't what Muslim Brotherhood members flying F-16s.

the US would be betraying its own principles. imagine if someone said "we want all fighter jet pilots in the US army to be black , or all of them have to be Hindu, because you can't trust whites or Christians" though the army is different to the Muslim Brotherhood, its pretty much accepted knowledge the army in Egypt is more or less a state within a state (literally with their own economy)

hmm. I see your point.

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#90 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]yea, and i think they're reason for election was almost entirely for economic reasons, I dont think the average Egyptian voted for them just because they would be islamist BossPerson
I thought it was almost like a protest vote. as far as I saw things, alot of people were afraid to vote for anything remotely liberal because in some people's eyes , secluar= Mubarak.

and dont forget that in the 2nd round of voting, the two choices were essentially Mubarak's (former PM iirc?) and Morsi. 2 pretty horrible choices imo

I like Mursi , he uses such colourful language www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mXnbgsg9DM amazing zoological knowledge too
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#91 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] I thought it was almost like a protest vote. as far as I saw things, alot of people were afraid to vote for anything remotely liberal because in some people's eyes , secluar= Mubarak.Darkman2007
and dont forget that in the 2nd round of voting, the two choices were essentially Mubarak's (former PM iirc?) and Morsi. 2 pretty horrible choices imo

I like Mursi , he uses such colourful language www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mXnbgsg9DM amazing zoological knowledge too

then i guess abraham was a descendant of apes and pigs?

The way islamists contradict themselves is quite funny sometimes

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#92 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]and dont forget that in the 2nd round of voting, the two choices were essentially Mubarak's (former PM iirc?) and Morsi. 2 pretty horrible choices imoBossPerson

I like Mursi , he uses such colourful language www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mXnbgsg9DM amazing zoological knowledge too

then i guess abraham was a descendant of apes and pigs?

The way islamists contradict themselves is quite funny sometimes

 

 

which would lead to Mursi also being a pig, since he is , by his own belief, a descendent of Abraham (given that he is Egyptian , he probably has just as much to do with the pharoah , but thats another matter)

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] I like Mursi , he uses such colourful language www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mXnbgsg9DM amazing zoological knowledge tooDarkman2007

then i guess abraham was a descendant of apes and pigs?

The way islamists contradict themselves is quite funny sometimes

 

 

which would lead to Mursi also being a pig, since he is , by his own belief, a descendent of Abraham (given that he is Egyptian , he probably has just as much to do with the pharoah , but thats another matter)

to be fair, he kind of looks like a pig, with his small fat head and such
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#95 osirisx3
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Ok so who's gonna put sanctions on the US for weaponizing the entire world? Oh yeah I forgot only the US is allowed to put up sanctions... move along

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could you link me to that picture i would like to share it with someone?

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#96 whipassmt
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Dr Morsi is a good guy. i like him. one of very very few good politician.SNIPER4321
I never knew he is a doctor? Is he an actual medical doctors? If so what type (cardiologist, gastroenterologist, pediatrician, etc.)?

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#97 The_Power_of_X
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Then does this mean that I am entitled to one hot Israeli woman since it is my money that is being used to keep her safe?

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#98 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Ok so who's gonna put sanctions on the US for weaponizing the entire world? Oh yeah I forgot only the US is allowed to put up sanctions... move along

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could you link me to that picture i would like to share it with someone?

Right click on it, choose view image, copy url.
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#99 Stesilaus
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[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

America gives israel 8 million dollars A DAY

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And they give muslim countries roughly $60 million dollars a day.

The money given to "Muslim countries" is used to prop up anti-democratic monarchies that maintain peace treaties with Israel, typically against the wishes of those countries' people.

So, for all intents and purposes, the US gives Israel $68 million Dollars a day.

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#100 KungfuKitten
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Wait...The US wants to spend money to buy a defense system for a country that makes the system? ... .. .... If anyone in the US government is reading this, I'd like a Buggatti Veyron, prefereably in blue, delivered to me here in Norway. It'd make me roll around in style.Treflis
You're doing it wrong. It's something you have to make yourself. They're not just gonna give you stuff. Watch.

I want to build a wall made of money to protect myself but it will cost you a lot. I am surrounded by muslims and other-minded people and live relatively close to key positions in the middle east.