Man charged with murder after tricking girlfriend into taking abortion drug

an unborn baby that doesnt even know what 2+2 that needs to be sacrificed to fix a paraplegic college professor's spine = worthJustSignedUp

I bet you thought you were being really clever with that one.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="JustSignedUp"]an unborn baby that doesnt even know what 2+2 that needs to be sacrificed to fix a paraplegic college professor's spine = worthJustSignedUp

I bet you thought you were being really clever with that one.

Nope.

It will be interesting to see how far this goes. This is far from the first time in the US somebody was charged with murder for killing a unborn child outside of a abortion clinic.

Ariel Castro's prosecutors say they intend to charge him for beating and starving one of his victims to force miscarriages, Scott Peterson was convicted of two counts of murder because he was also charged with killing his wife's unborn child, and Bei Bei Shuai was charged with murder for a failed suicide attempt that ended up killing her unborn child (although she was eight months pregnant at the time, well past the legal cutoff for an abortion).

roflyellosnolvr

yeah I have trouble with the murder charge. Guy is a scumbag, agreed, but it seems like going with "murder" (under the legal definition) is a bit tricky considering it wouldn't be murder legally if she aborted the baby herself. A decent lawyer should definitely to able to beat this. MrPraline

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[QUOTE="JustSignedUp"] i bet you thought you were gonna make me mad by saying thatJustSignedUp

Nope.

You didn't know that until your second quote.

I'm fine with that charge.  

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="JustSignedUp"]an unborn baby that doesnt even know what 2+2 that needs to be sacrificed to fix a paraplegic college professor's spine = worthJustSignedUp

what does this have to do with the issue?

your comment was not related to the topic

Wouldn't that just be "manslaughter" instead of "murder" ?

Wouldn't that just be "manslaughter" instead of "murder" ?

_R34LiTY_

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

Wouldn't that just be "manslaughter" instead of "murder" ?

whipassmt

Wouldn't that just be "manslaughter" instead of "murder" ?

_R34LiTY_

If they can prove premeditation and malicious intent, then yes it's First Degree Murder.

A murder charge is ridiculous. To even consider a murder charge is more ridiculous.

[QUOTE="xdude85"]

So it was basically an abortion yet they're calling it murder? Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

Aljosa23

He should be charged with murder.  Unless he was raped then he consented to getting her pregnant and should take responsibility (I guess you could say he did, in a way).

You cannot murder a fetus because a fetus is not a person. What he did was still a violation of the woman's body and he should be charged with property damage or perhaps rape.Laihendi

I always hate abortion. It's so weird and tricky; I personally don't consider a fetus to be a human being but it does technically contain the necessary characteristics of being a human and therefore if you do kill it you are, I guess, maybe, killing a human being. It's so weird and the justice side of thing is so double sided with both sides making good points about the act.

Either way, though; dude's still a f*cking jackass.

I always hate abortion. It's so weird and tricky; I personally don't consider a fetus to be a human being but it does technically contain the necessary characteristics of being a human and therefore if you do kill it you are, I guess, maybe, killing a human being. It's so weird and the justice side of thing is so double sided with both sides making good points about the act.

Either way, though; dude's still a f*cking jackass.

Goyoshi12

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]You cannot murder a fetus because a fetus is not a person. What he did was still a violation of the woman's body and he should be charged with property damage or perhaps rape.lightleggy

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]You cannot murder a fetus because a fetus is not a person. What he did was still a violation of the woman's body and he should be charged with property damage or perhaps rape.Rhazakna

Better than a kid being born that wasn't wanted by his father in the first place.  

Men should be allowed to decide childs fate if they are the father

If he's guilty I have no problems with convicting him of murder.

^This was my initial reaction when entering this thread and reading the OP...but...

Just....

the_bi99man

I guess he should have made it clear that he does not want the baby, and if the girl insists in having it, then she can not expect him to be any part of it and left it at that.

Definitely murder IMO, may be not as serious as other forms of murder but it is still murder. he intended to kill the baby and had no right to.

Definitely murder IMO, may be not as serious as other forms of murder but it is still murder. he intended to kill the baby and had no right to.

PcGamingRig

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

is that murder?

whipassmt

Ok. I don't see the problem. It's not his choice to make....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

I always hate abortion. It's so weird and tricky; I personally don't consider a fetus to be a human being but it does technically contain the necessary characteristics of being a human and therefore if you do kill it you are, I guess, maybe, killing a human being. It's so weird and the justice side of thing is so double sided with both sides making good points about the act.

Either way, though; dude's still a f*cking jackass.

chrisrooR