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#201 ZumaJones07
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ITT: People claim that their opinions, and the opinions of their friends, far outweigh the opinions of millions of song buyers on Itunes, and the thousands of people who listen to the radio.

Best is a subjective term.
If more people buy song A, than song B, because they like song A better. Wouldn't that suggest Song A is better than song B?

Apparently not. Only the "hardcore fans" know the BEST songs :roll:

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what point are you trying to make again? i forgot.
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#202 chilly-chill
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Can't Tell Me Nothing

Power Monster

Good Morning

Flashing Lights

Devil In A New Dress

Drive Slow

My fav Kanye West songs

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#203 JML897
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

ITT: People claim that their opinions, and the opinions of their friends, far outweigh the opinions of millions of song buyers on Itunes, and the thousands of people who listen to the radio.

Best is a subjective term.
If more people buy song A, than song B, because they like song A better. Wouldn't that suggest Song A is better than song B?

Apparently not. Only the "hardcore fans" know the BEST songs :roll:

ZumaJones07

what point are you trying to make again? i forgot.

His point is that the popular songs are always the best songs and if you have a different opinion you're wrong.

I really, really don't understand why he's getting so frustrated over the fact that some people think some lesser-known songs are better.

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#204 ZumaJones07
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so he would agree that Kanye is a good, no great, artist then? it's the popular opinion after all.
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#205 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]so he would agree that Kanye is a good, no great, artist then? it's the popular opinion after all.

:lol: Not lately.
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#206 JML897
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]so he would agree that Kanye is a good, no great, artist then? it's the popular opinion after all.Nibroc420
:lol: Not lately.

The album he released in 2011 with Jay-Z went platinum. The album he released in 2010 by himself went platinum and critics drooled all over that one. Kanye still has a really big fanbase.

By your logic...Kanye West > everyone who hasn't gone platinum.

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#207 ZumaJones07
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]so he would agree that Kanye is a good, no great, artist then? it's the popular opinion after all.

:lol: Not lately.

but what about all those millions of songs you said people downloaded, or the number of radio plays? you're in the minority. :cool:
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#208 JML897
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]so he would agree that Kanye is a good, no great, artist then? it's the popular opinion after all.ZumaJones07
:lol: Not lately.

but what about all those millions of songs you said people downloaded, or the number of radio plays? you're in the minority. :cool:

I think he's sitting at his computer realizing that his original point makes no f*cking sense.

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#209 ZumaJones07
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n*ggas in paris is played like all the time on the radio and is his and Jay-Z's current "best" song out.
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#210 SnipEr_LEGEND
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I agree that he's a goodmusician but i dont thinks he up there with MJ and Jay-Z.

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#211 PiscesChick93
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I disagree.

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#212 chilly-chill
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I agree that he's a goodmusician but i dont thinks he up there with MJ and Jay-Z.

SnipEr_LEGEND
He's better than Jay-Z if you ask me.
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#213 ZumaJones07
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] :lol: Not lately.JML897

but what about all those millions of songs you said people downloaded, or the number of radio plays? you're in the minority. :cool:

I think he's sitting at his computer realizing that his original point makes no f*cking sense.

pretty much.
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#214 ZumaJones07
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[QUOTE="SnipEr_LEGEND"]

I agree that he's a goodmusician but i dont thinks he up there with MJ and Jay-Z.

chilly-chill
He's better than Jay-Z if you ask me.

i honestly kinda liked Jay Z more on WTT than Kanye, except on songs where kanye was the "lead". someone said it earlier, Kanye is better by himself... he just throws a track off sometimes when he's featured. but overall i do like kanye west better. i also like his ego, which is a pretty unpopular opinion. But it's what made him who he is and i respect that.
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#215 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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A genius at sampling, which puts him on par with a lot ot DJs, must of which are far better.

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#216 ZumaJones07
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A genius at sampling, which puts him on par with a lot ot DJs, most of which are far better.

jimkabrhel
too bad their names aren't Kanye West :P
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#217 zombehhhhh
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He has a few good songs, but overall, he's not that great. Plus he's probably the biggest d0uche in the entertainment industry.

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#218 tjricardo089
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The best songs are the old ones like:

  • Love Lockdown
  • Stronger (feat. Daft Punk)
  • Power
  • etc..
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#219 chilly-chill
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The best songs are the old ones like:

  • Love Lockdown
  • Stronger (feat. Daft Punk)
  • Power
  • etc..
tjricardo089
That's a funny joke...
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#220 krazykillaz
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The best songs are the old ones like:

  • Love Lockdown
  • Stronger (feat. Daft Punk)
  • Power
  • etc..
tjricardo089
Power isn't one of his older songs. :?
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#222 ZumaJones07
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He has a few good songs, but overall, he's not that great. Plus he's probably the biggest d0uche in the entertainment industry.

zombehhhhh
he is that great, like all his top songs are downloaded/purchased by millions of people. you can't say their opinions are wrong because you haven't listened to all of them.
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#223 Bucked20
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Kanye ripped this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLpMRB3_YH0

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#224 Conjuration
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The two most over-hyped/pretending their fame is more than it is celebrities ever:

Kanye and Jay-Z

Seriously these guys f***ing suck.

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#225 JML897
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pretending their fame is more than it is

Conjuration

What does this mean?

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#226 Bucked20
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[QUOTE="Conjuration"]

pretending their fame is more than it is

JML897

What does this mean?

Sounds like some dumbass reason to hate
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#227 tocool340
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I miss the old Kanye from his Late Registration and College Dropout albums. Can't say I'm all that that interested in his newer albums, though his last one was pretty damn decent despite not being the type of songs I usually don't care to listen to....
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#228 Conjuration
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[QUOTE="Conjuration"]

pretending their fame is more than it is

JML897

What does this mean?

It means: I shouldn't have even come here because I didn't have anything nice to say in the first place.

But what I meant was: these 2 guys (especially Jay Z) brag through half of their songs about how huge they are, and they get shoved in everyones face for some reason, but - I have never in my entire life met anyone who thought either of these guys were anything more than a flash in the pan.

Maybe it's more of a regional thing somewhere in the states, but I seriously don't know anyone who gives a damn about either of these guys at all. All I been hearing for 10 years from these guys mouths is how incredibly famous and respected they are. But no one else ever seems to be saying it, just them and the network they're whoring themselves to atm. Just the odd guy on the interent ever has anything good to say about these tools.

But I'm going to leave this topic now because , really, I have no business being here in the first place. I'm gonna apologize for being a dick because I really shouldn't have even come in here to begin with. This therad is for fans of those guys.

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#229 Conjuration
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[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="Conjuration"]

pretending their fame is more than it is

Bucked20

What does this mean?

Sounds like some dumbass reason to hate

I didn't think I'd hear Jay Z's name outside of the 90's so I've got 12 years of "wtf already" under my belt.
K, now I'm out.

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#230 Wolfetan
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I LOVE Kanye West. Favorite artist of all time. Sadly though i've only been to one of his concerts :( It was an amazing performance though.

This is the beginning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SqxJYnwl9w

It was amazing :)

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#231 JML897
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[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="Conjuration"]

pretending their fame is more than it is

Conjuration

What does this mean?

It means: I shouldn't have even come here because I didn't have anything nice to say in the first place.

But what I meant was: these 2 guys (especially Jay Z) brag through half of their songs about how huge they are, and they get shoved in everyones face for some reason, but - I have never in my entire life met anyone who thought either of these guys were anything more than a flash in the pan.

Maybe it's more of a regional thing somewhere in the states, but I seriously don't know anyone who gives a damn about either of these guys at all. All I been hearing for 10 years from these guys mouths is how incredibly famous and respected they are. But no one else ever seems to be saying it, just them and the network they're whoring themselves to atm. Just the odd guy on the interent ever has anything good to say about these tools.

But I'm going to leave this topic now because , really, I have no business being here in the first place. I'm gonna apologize for being a dick because I really shouldn't have even come in here to begin with. This therad is for fans of those guys.

It's cool, I just didn't really know what you were talking about...I think it's hard to call either guy a flash in the pan at this point.

You probably just don't hang around people who are interested in their type of music because I can assure you they're huge. They play arenas when they tour and fill buildings up, their albums almost always go platinum, their music is played a lot on top 40 and urban radio stations, etc.

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#232 DaJuicyMan
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Yea Kanye's great.Dudes been consistent forever. Hope he releases another solo album after the GOOD music label album and stupid-ass Watch The Throne 2..

MBDTF - Classic

Late Registration - Almost classic

College Dropout - Almost classic

Graduation - nice album

808's & Heartbreak - eh, pretty good for a "weakest album"

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#233 DaJuicyMan
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Oh, and I don't like anything that is masonic and satanistic with all that brainwashery stuff signs in it... (read. illuminati)

It's not music... it's Music Industry Inc.

Matthew-first

I like your sig.. But you gotta stfu when you bring up the illuminati.

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#234 DarthTuna
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http://www.metacritic.com/music/my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14880-my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy/

men lie, women lie, dumbass metalhead gamespotters lie

numbers dont

Crokodile69

pretty much /thread

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#235 Solid_Snake325
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He might be a genius but he's too much of a douchebag for me to care about him.
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#236 Wolf-Man2006
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[QUOTE="Conjuration"]

pretending their fame is more than it is

JML897

What does this mean?

I think he is unaware that Watch the Throne is somewhat of a concept album about rich people and their lives and social commentary... Not all rappers act like they got more money than Bill Gates

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#237 Dante2710
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Jay-Z

Seriously these guys f***ing suckConjuration

 Yah, no.

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#239 ZumaJones07
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Kanye West is crap.Mkavanaugh77
why? he's the one of the best artists alive right now.
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#240 DarthTuna
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[QUOTE="Crokodile69"]

http://www.metacritic.com/music/my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14880-my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy/

men lie, women lie, dumbass metalhead gamespotters lie

numbers dont

DarthTuna

pretty much /thread

his other albums put together average a score of 90 on Metacritic. Once again /thread

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#241 JustPlainLucas
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He may be a sampling genius, but his lyrical ability took a nose dive the past few years.
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#242 MistressMinako
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I don't even know why I clicked this thread. So many posts I can reply to starting from the first page. And you know what's worse? I am not even a huge fan oi Kanye West.
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#243 DarkGamer007
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I tried giving the song Runaway multiple tries after people saying how great it was. The choros was fairly good, but the part where Kanye stated to rap sounded awful and lyrics were just weak in my opinion. The music to it was great, but the lyrics were horrible in my opinion. Why is Kanye emphasizing the last words in the lines so much?

"she finds pictures in my e-MAILS!"

"i don't know what it is with fe-MALES!"

I could understand this if he was making a really complex maniuplated rhyme, but he isn't, and even then it would come off like he didn't know how to rhyme it right. He does this in his verse in Forever by Drake and it drives me nuts. It is so obnoxious.

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#244 DarthTuna
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I tried giving the song Runaway multiple tries after people saying how great it was. The choros was fairly good, but the part where Kanye stated to rap sounded awful and lyrics were just weak in my opinion. The music to it was great, but the lyrics were horrible in my opinion. Why is Kanye emphasizing the last words in the lines so much?

"she finds pictures in my e-MAILS!"

"i don't know what it is with fe-MALES!"

I could understand this if he was making a really complex maniuplated rhyme, but he isn't, and even then it would come off like he didn't know how to rhyme it right. He does this in his verse in Forever by Drake and it drives me nuts. It is so obnoxious.

DarkGamer007

If you want to judge his rapping ability listen to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghc_fc4R1rI

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#245 indzman
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Kanye West is nothing like Tupac Shakur . 2Pac was a true genius .

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#246 DarkGamer007
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[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

I tried giving the song Runaway multiple tries after people saying how great it was. The choros was fairly good, but the part where Kanye stated to rap sounded awful and lyrics were just weak in my opinion. The music to it was great, but the lyrics were horrible in my opinion. Why is Kanye emphasizing the last words in the lines so much?

"she finds pictures in my e-MAILS!"

"i don't know what it is with fe-MALES!"

I could understand this if he was making a really complex maniuplated rhyme, but he isn't, and even then it would come off like he didn't know how to rhyme it right. He does this in his verse in Forever by Drake and it drives me nuts. It is so obnoxious.

DarthTuna

If you want to judge his rapping ability listen to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghc_fc4R1rI

That was a million times better than Runaway, thanks for posting that!

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#247 ZumaJones07
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That was a million times better than Runaway, thanks for posting that!

DarkGamer007
i actually like the last 3 minutes of Runaway more than the actual song lol
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#248 Crokodile69
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[QUOTE="PcGamingRig"]

college dropout was fun.

the rest, not so much...

eboyishere

graduation was the best imo

you mean his worst

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#249 Crokodile69
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Kanye West is crap.Mkavanaugh77
Kanye > 2Pac

get outta here kid

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#250 bobcheeseball
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http://rapgenius.com/Kanye-west-blame-game-lyrics#note-308211

Quadruple Entendre don't even ask him how!

My fav is Graduation.