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#151 XileLord
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Kanye is alright, he has some good songs and also some bad ones as well (goes for any artist really)

I don't think he's the best out there though.

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#152 Addict187
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Alot of you seem to get pissed off at others choise in music. Kind of like areligion if you see were imgetting at. Chill out the only reson you are a die hard fan of somthing is if you were born into it. Here i give you an EX... I was born in 1981 so i grew up with Nervana and soundgardin exa exa exa I here the music today and think god that sucks. Justlikemy parents born in the 50's think everything i like sucks. Get over it in ten years your kids will hate what you like

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#153 JML897
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^I like some music from before I was born though
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#154 67gt500
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I personally think that the world will only have to endure maybe a couple more years of his noise and prattle before he disappears into obscurity where he has always belonged... hey, we can always hope, right?
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#155 eboyishere
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I personally think that the world will only have to endure maybe a couple more years of his noise and prattle before he disappears into obscurity where he has always belonged... hey, we can always hope, right?67gt500

Thing is he is already a good producer. He wont really fade for like another decade.

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#156 DarthTuna
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[QUOTE="67gt500"]I personally think that the world will only have to endure maybe a couple more years of his noise and prattle before he disappears into obscurity where he has always belonged... hey, we can always hope, right?eboyishere

Thing is he is already a good producer. He wont really fade for like another decade.

If he keeps making albums like MBDTF quality, I doubt he will fade anywhere.

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#157 3dfd
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I like Graudation best, then My Dark Twisted Fantasy

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#158 Wolf-Man2006
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[QUOTE="Cloud_765"]No. He used a Daft Punk song for the background beat to one of his songs. Daft Punk is amazing and he sullied their good name. A thousand times, no.Nibroc420
This. Heck, 90% of Kanye's "contribution" to that track was him repeating lyrics from the original. Kanye isn't creative, he's just something for the white boys to play while claiming they're gangsta.

What the hell are you talking about? Have you even listened to a Kanye West song or are you just one of those elitist snobs that judge everything they haven't even sat down and listened to. I probably would have been on the same boat with you years ago until I actually decided to give him a listen and discovered *shock* he isn't appealing to gangsta wannabes by any means.

I personally think that the world will only have to endure maybe a couple more years of his noise and prattle before he disappears into obscurity where he has always belonged... hey, we can always hope, right?67gt500

Umm.. I don't, actually. I'm hoping he releases more material as long as he puts effort into it, which he has been good at with his album songs

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#159 ZumaJones07
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Kanye is somewhat dorky.

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yea, he is a big nerd. donald glover made this point :P
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#160 Gaming4You1990
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I don't consider Kanye West a genius and am not sure if this is a troll thread? Anyhow, I think he's ok, he doesn't suck. What I don't like about him, is his attitude, just a very egoistic freak who boast about his money, similar to lil wayne. I consider Eminem as a rap genius, or Prince EA who is a Youtube star, and check Prince EA out.... He is probably better than em, and he is very highly intelligent. Other rap rap artist I'd consider to be a musical genius or lyricist is, Tupac, Biggie, Nas. At the end of the day, it's an opinion, so it is really you're taste in music, and personally I love all kinds of music.
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#161 Bloodseeker23
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MDTF then College Dropout
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#162 Jagged3dge
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I personally think that the world will only have to endure maybe a couple more years of his noise and prattle before he disappears into obscurity where he has always belonged... hey, we can always hope, right?67gt500

i think kanye is a hall of famer

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#163 Crokodile69
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My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy > College Dropout > Late Registration > 808s and Heartbreak > Graduation

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#164 Crokodile69
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oh and 99% of people in here hating prolly havnt heard any song other than stronger, gold digger and All of the lights, their opinions mean nothing

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#165 Fightingfan
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oh and 99% of people in here hating prolly havnt heard any song other than stronger, gold digger and All of the lights, their opinions mean nothing

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Those are like his top songs...
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#166 Rhazakna
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I've never cared for his rapping. He makes some good beats, but I think The Dust Brothers and Public Enemy were doing more interesting things with samples decades ago. Overrated, but not bad.
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#167 ZumaJones07
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[QUOTE="Crokodile69"]

oh and 99% of people in here hating prolly havnt heard any song other than stronger, gold digger and All of the lights, their opinions mean nothing

Fightingfan
Those are like his top songs...

not if you've actually listened to his albums
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#168 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="Crokodile69"]

oh and 99% of people in here hating prolly havnt heard any song other than stronger, gold digger and All of the lights, their opinions mean nothing

ZumaJones07

Those are like his top songs...

not if you've actually listened to his albums

:roll: Yeah, and Ice Ice Baby isn't Vanilla's best song...

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#169 ZumaJones07
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:roll: Yeah, and Ice Ice Baby isn't Vanilla's best song...

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why do you think stronger, gold digger, and all of the lights are yeezy's best songs exactly? this will be interesting...:cool: edit: yup, thought so. either you're trollin or you don't know wtf you're talking about :P
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#170 iskeethunters
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Anyway, you should know that REAL hip hop is not the mainstream sh*t you see on MTV. No sir, I'm talkin' bout Jedi Mind Tricks, Army of The Pharaohs.... Good stuff. That's the REAL hip-hop.
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#171 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="Crokodile69"]

oh and 99% of people in here hating prolly havnt heard any song other than stronger, gold digger and All of the lights, their opinions mean nothing

ZumaJones07
Those are like his top songs...

not if you've actually listened to his albums

"Herp Derp, the songs that are most popular aren't his top songs" :roll: It COULDNT be that that his top songs, aka the most popular songs, are his best songs according to the majority. No, that would be ridiculous.
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#172 ZumaJones07
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ah okay i get it, those 3 songs encompass what yeezy is all about so you do not need to hear the rest. i guess you guys read the back covers of books and claim to know what they're about. :P
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#173 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]ah okay i get it, those 3 songs encompass what yeezy is all about so you do not need to hear the rest. i guess you guys read the back covers of books and claim to know what they're about. :P

:roll: Think of your opinion as 1 point, everyone Else's opinion is 1 point as well. If millions of people prefer song A, over song B. You saying "But song A sucks, Song B is so much better" means next to nothing. Yet you expect people to go "Ohh ZunaJones says that this other song is better than Kanye's most popular song, thus it must be better!" Doesn't work that way ;)
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#174 ZumaJones07
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Kanye releases whichever single he wants to be played on the radio. and FYI, Jesus Walks is his "best" song. those 3 are no where near his best received ;) ;) again, you don't know what you're talking about because you don't listen to his albums, you're a part of the mainstream crowd. that's okay, but those three aren't his best. try doing a google search. *wink*
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#175 Nibroc420
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Kanye releases whichever single he wants to be played on the radio. and FYI, Jesus Walks is his "best" song. those 3 are no where near his best received ;) ;) again, you don't know what you're talking about because you don't listen to his albums, you're a part of the mainstream crowd. that's okay, but those three aren't his best. try doing a google search. *wink*ZumaJones07

LOL

SO the songs that are his "most popular", by sales, radio requests ect. Are NOT actually his best songs, because YOUR opinion is different.

Youd think the songs people liked the most would be his best (seeing as how "best" is subjective, and the only way to definitively say which is "best" is by vote/number of people who think it's the "best")

I dont even know how to respond to such ignorance.

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#176 Crokodile69
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[QUOTE="Crokodile69"]

oh and 99% of people in here hating prolly havnt heard any song other than stronger, gold digger and All of the lights, their opinions mean nothing

Fightingfan

Those are like his top songs...

no lol

gold digger is the worst on late registration

all of the lights is the worst on MBDTF

and stronger is one of the worst on Grad

and even then theyre all still good songs but dont even begin to show his true potential

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#177 ZumaJones07
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wait what am i arguing for? you guys were partially right, but you're not entirely right because songs like runaway, heartless, jesus walks, can't tell me nothing, Power, stronger, gorgeous, Amazing, Dark Fantasy, etc, etc are all masterpieces. have you listened to all of those? because according to you, those are also his best songs due to popularity, right?
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#178 ZumaJones07
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those songs are why yeezy is a genius. :cool:
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#179 smokingsbad
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Most of songs that go on the radio are songs that have catchy choruses that people can easily sing to and brings people in. Thats why I usually try to stay away from the radio. Tons of songs from Kanye West are on the radio that have the supposed catchy chorus and I mostly dislike all of them, but he also has great songs on albums that dont make it to the radio
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#180 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

:roll: Yeah, and Ice Ice Baby isn't Vanilla's best song...

ZumaJones07
why do you think stronger, gold digger, and all of the lights are yeezy's best songs exactly? this will be interesting...:cool: edit: yup, thought so. either you're trollin or you don't know wtf you're talking about :P

*sigh*... It's 3am, not gonna bother.
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#181 ZumaJones07
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]*sigh*... It's 3am, not gonna bother.

good... cuz i'm tired of beating you down [spoiler] :P [/spoiler]
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#182 Crokodile69
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http://www.metacritic.com/music/my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14880-my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy/

men lie, women lie, dumbass metalhead gamespotters lie

numbers dont

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#183 krazykillaz
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It's a tossup between Late Registration and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. I agree, he is one of the most talented artists of his generation.
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#184 krazykillaz
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="Crokodile69"]

oh and 99% of people in here hating prolly havnt heard any song other than stronger, gold digger and All of the lights, their opinions mean nothing

Crokodile69

Those are like his top songs...

no lol

gold digger is the worst on late registration

all of the lights is the worst on MBDTF

and stronger is one of the worst on Grad

and even then theyre all still good songs but dont even begin to show his true potential

No, no and no. Those three songs are excellent. While not the best on their respective albums, they're certainly highlights.
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#185 Wolf-Man2006
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[QUOTE="Crokodile69"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Those are like his top songs...krazykillaz

no lol

gold digger is the worst on late registration

all of the lights is the worst on MBDTF

and stronger is one of the worst on Grad

and even then theyre all still good songs but dont even begin to show his true potential

No, no and no. Those three songs are excellent. While not the best on their respective albums, they're certainly highlights.

Its just people being hipster about artists they like (so obviously their best known songs are going to be their worst)

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#186 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Those are like his top songs...Fightingfan

not if you've actually listened to his albums

:roll: Yeah, and Ice Ice Baby isn't Vanilla's best song...

vanilla was a one hit wonder tho :/

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#187 Crokodile69
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[QUOTE="Crokodile69"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Those are like his top songs...krazykillaz

no lol

gold digger is the worst on late registration

all of the lights is the worst on MBDTF

and stronger is one of the worst on Grad

and even then theyre all still good songs but dont even begin to show his true potential

No, no and no. Those three songs are excellent. While not the best on their respective albums, they're certainly highlights.

theyre not highlights, nowhere close

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#188 Spitfirer
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Stronger is a horrible song but Gold Digger is at least tolerable.

That aside, I don't care for Kanye West. I did lol when he got all butthurt over South Park, though.

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#189 Tylendal
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Well, I don't listen to Kanye West, so I can't really contribute to this discussion... or can I? O_O

Here's a parody of his power video. Oh, yeah, this is a still...

The actual video is right here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAxNUJLNOuI&feature=watch_response

(Yeah, this is the first time I've ever trolled with ponies. I'm usually nicer than this.)

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#190 Wolf-Man2006
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"] not if you've actually listened to his albumseboyishere

:roll: Yeah, and Ice Ice Baby isn't Vanilla's best song...

vanilla was a one hit wonder tho :/

That and Ice Ice Baby is Vannila Ice's best song unfortunately

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#191 LustForSoul
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Even though I'm no fan of hip-hop and such, I like two of his songs. Haters gonna hate.
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#192 tenaka2
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Who?

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Forgot to make NONE as a choice.
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#194 PcGamingRig
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college dropout was fun.

the rest, not so much...

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#195 eboyishere
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college dropout was fun.

the rest, not so much...

PcGamingRig

graduation was the best imo

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did anyone ever figure out his beef with the 21st century?

it really preys on my mind.

it sucks that the 21st century is just trying to get by and this dude is all "do-inn sump-in mean two-it"

lay off the 21st century already!

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#197 JML897
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]Kanye releases whichever single he wants to be played on the radio. and FYI, Jesus Walks is his "best" song. those 3 are no where near his best received ;) ;) again, you don't know what you're talking about because you don't listen to his albums, you're a part of the mainstream crowd. that's okay, but those three aren't his best. try doing a google search. *wink*Nibroc420

LOL

SO the songs that are his "most popular", by sales, radio requests ect. Are NOT actually his best songs, because YOUR opinion is different.

Youd think the songs people liked the most would be his best (seeing as how "best" is subjective, and the only way to definitively say which is "best" is by vote/number of people who think it's the "best")

I dont even know how to respond to such ignorance.

Oh come on.

I really like the band Modest Mouse. Float On is by far their most popular song; it's pretty much the only song of theirs that got a lot of radio play because it is catchy, upbeat, and really accessible. Just about all fans of the band do not think Float On is their best song. I could use a similar example for so many other artists. Popular does not always mean good, though some of my favorite Kanye songs are some of his most famous ones.

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#198 Khan933
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I think he seems like abit of a douche, but most of the music I've heard from him is decent. I'd never buy an album of his, but I don't change the station when his stuff comes on.

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#199 Khan933
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]Kanye releases whichever single he wants to be played on the radio. and FYI, Jesus Walks is his "best" song. those 3 are no where near his best received ;) ;) again, you don't know what you're talking about because you don't listen to his albums, you're a part of the mainstream crowd. that's okay, but those three aren't his best. try doing a google search. *wink*JML897

LOL

SO the songs that are his "most popular", by sales, radio requests ect. Are NOT actually his best songs, because YOUR opinion is different.

Youd think the songs people liked the most would be his best (seeing as how "best" is subjective, and the only way to definitively say which is "best" is by vote/number of people who think it's the "best")

I dont even know how to respond to such ignorance.

Oh come on.

I really like the band Modest Mouse. Float On is by far their most popular song; it's pretty much the only song of theirs that got a lot of radio play because it is catchy, upbeat, and really accessible. Just about all fans of the band do not think Float On is their best song. I could use a similar example for so many other artists. Popular does not always mean good, though some of my favorite Kanye songs are some of his most famous ones.

I personally think World at Large Or Little Motel are there best songs, personal opinion.

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#200 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]Kanye releases whichever single he wants to be played on the radio. and FYI, Jesus Walks is his "best" song. those 3 are no where near his best received ;) ;) again, you don't know what you're talking about because you don't listen to his albums, you're a part of the mainstream crowd. that's okay, but those three aren't his best. try doing a google search. *wink*JML897

LOL

SO the songs that are his "most popular", by sales, radio requests ect. Are NOT actually his best songs, because YOUR opinion is different.

Youd think the songs people liked the most would be his best (seeing as how "best" is subjective, and the only way to definitively say which is "best" is by vote/number of people who think it's the "best")

I dont even know how to respond to such ignorance.

Oh come on.

I really like the band Modest Mouse. Float On is by far their most popular song; it's pretty much the only song of theirs that got a lot of radio play because it is catchy, upbeat, and really accessible. Just about all fans of the band do not think Float On is their best song. I could use a similar example for so many other artists. Popular does not always mean good, though some of my favorite Kanye songs are some of his most famous ones.

ITT: People claim that their opinions, and the opinions of their friends, far outweigh the opinions of millions of song buyers on Itunes, and the thousands of people who listen to the radio.

Best is a subjective term.
If more people buy song A, than song B, because they like song A better. Wouldn't that suggest Song A is better than song B?

Apparently not. Only the "hardcore fans" know the BEST songs :roll: