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#201 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="leviathan91"]

Would legalized prostitution decrease human trafficking?

Storm_Marine

It might. At the very least, it will help to provide more protection both towards the customer and the worker.

It won't help with the underage girls the article was complaining about.

Sure it would. Regulations will dictate that all sex workers be 18 or 19 or w/e.
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] It might. At the very least, it will help to provide more protection both towards the customer and the worker. l4dak47

It won't help with the underage girls the article was complaining about.

Sure it would. Regulations will dictate that all sex workers be 18 or 19 or w/e.

Hence the creepsicle market for traffiking underage girls will be unchanged.

Unless right now the underage girls are simply a substitute for adult prostitutes. I'm skeptical though.

Either way it still is a big deal in countries where prostitution is legal, though maybe slightly more maneageable. There really aren't any studies on it.

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#203 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

It won't help with the underage girls the article was complaining about.

Storm_Marine

Sure it would. Regulations will dictate that all sex workers be 18 or 19 or w/e.

Hence the creepsicle market for traffiking underage girls will be unchanged.

Unless right now the underage girls are simply a substitute for adult prostitutes. I'm skeptical though.

Either way it still is a big deal in countries where prostition is legal, though maybe slightly more maneageable. There really aren't any studies on it.

I can understand and I was thinking that perhaps they would hire females who are old enough, but look young/like a teenager and that might be enough to satisfy those types of guys. but who knows. We should still legalize prostitution as well as drugs.
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#204 leviathan91
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] It might. At the very least, it will help to provide more protection both towards the customer and the worker. l4dak47

It won't help with the underage girls the article was complaining about.

Sure it would. Regulations will dictate that all sex workers be 18 or 19 or w/e.

On a national level, perhaps but on a global level?

Also, human trafficking isn't solely based on forcing people to travel one place to another. Some actually give consent to have them trafficked to avoid immigration issues.

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#205 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

It won't help with the underage girls the article was complaining about.

leviathan91

Sure it would. Regulations will dictate that all sex workers be 18 or 19 or w/e.

On a national level, perhaps but on a global level?

Also, human trafficking isn't solely based on forcing people to travel one place to another. Some actually give consent to have them trafficked to avoid immigration issues.

It's a step in the right direction.
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#206 TopTierHustler
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[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] I did just that, numbnuts. Maybe you should educate yourself. Btw, that blogger is using info from that source I just cited. l4dak47

you need better sources....

claiming Cocain isn't that bad for your heart is a big stretch when you lack anything to back you up.

The report is from the goddamn Who. What better source is there? And not once, have I goddamn said that cocaine doesn't cause heart problems. lr2 to read.

and like I said, that's a 100 page small print document.

I'm not spending 4 hours reading through a document that I know you yourself just found in your quick google seach to prove me wrong while not having read it yourself. That's f*cking ridiculous that you would expect somebody to do that when you yourself don't even know what in it.

You say coke doesn't cause heart problems as much aspeople say and it's largely what people cut it with that do it. Prove it.

If you legitly read that 100 page article, then site the page where that is said.

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#207 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Sure it would. Regulations will dictate that all sex workers be 18 or 19 or w/e. l4dak47

On a national level, perhaps but on a global level?

Also, human trafficking isn't solely based on forcing people to travel one place to another. Some actually give consent to have them trafficked to avoid immigration issues.

It's a step in the right direction.

You should move to my province. We just legalized brothels recently so prostitutes have a safe area to work in.

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#208 TopTierHustler
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Presumably so they can steal all the bananas.

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I think he just hates the u.s. cause he's jealously living in a worse country.

You're right I should praise them for supporting dictatorships who killed thousands of people. I'm so jealous, I wish my country would do that.

I see you bash the U.S. every chance you get.

You clearly have issues in having a no name country.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="leviathan91"]

On a national level, perhaps but on a global level?

Also, human trafficking isn't solely based on forcing people to travel one place to another. Some actually give consent to have them trafficked to avoid immigration issues.

Aljosa23

It's a step in the right direction.

You should move to my province. We just legalized brothels recently so prostitutes have a safe area to work in.

Making me jelly, bro. All you need to do now is legalize weed and I'm out of this sh*thole.
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Making me jelly, bro. All you need to do now is legalize weed and I'm out of this sh*thole. l4dak47
I can see that happen sometime in the next few years once the Conservatives get out of office.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"]Making me jelly, bro. All you need to do now is legalize weed and I'm out of this sh*thole. Aljosa23

I can see that happen sometime in the next few years once the Conservatives get out of office.

I think it will also happen in the U.S. as well. Just a bit longer than your country. perhaps. Man, I look forward to that day.
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Drugs is a bigger issue across the United States than human trafficking. Of course it receives more money. :?
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]Making me jelly, bro. All you need to do now is legalize weed and I'm out of this sh*thole. l4dak47

I can see that happen sometime in the next few years once the Conservatives get out of office.

I think it will also happen in the U.S. as well. Just a bit longer than your country. perhaps. Man, I look forward to that day.

Also, it's hilarious to me how in Canada our "Conservatives" are still more left than the Democrats in the US. :P

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Drugs is a bigger issue across the United States than human trafficking. Of course it receives more money. :?Stevo_the_gamer
How so?
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]I can see that happen sometime in the next few years once the Conservatives get out of office.

Aljosa23

I think it will also happen in the U.S. as well. Just a bit longer than your country. perhaps. Man, I look forward to that day.

Also, it's hilarious to me how in Canada our "Conservatives" are still more left than the Democrats in the US. :P

Yea, for a liberal like me, the U.S. is not a very good place to live in.
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Drugs is a bigger issue across the United States than human trafficking. Of course it receives more money. :?Stevo_the_gamer
Ehhhh. Drugs are only an "issue" because the government makes it one. Sort of like gay rights and abortion, which are total non-issues in other countries.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Drugs is a bigger issue across the United States than human trafficking. Of course it receives more money. :?Aljosa23

Ehhhh. Drugs are only an "issue" because the government makes it one. Sort of like gay rights and abortion, which are total non-issues in other countries.

Derpy derp. Every deviance which becomes criminal does so by the government. Cute ethnocentrism though.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Drugs is a bigger issue across the United States than human trafficking. Of course it receives more money. :?l4dak47
How so?

Because of frequency. This shouldn't be difficult to grasp.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Drugs is a bigger issue across the United States than human trafficking. Of course it receives more money. :?Stevo_the_gamer
How so?

Because of frequency. This shouldn't be difficult to grasp.

It shouldn't even be an issue in the first place. Jesus, let people consume what they want.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] How so?

Because of frequency. This shouldn't be difficult to grasp.

It shouldn't even be an issue in the first place. Jesus, let people consume what they want.

Such a stupid comment. Letting people consume some drugs (the more dangerous ones) puts innocent people's lives at risk.
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Drugs is a bigger issue across the United States than human trafficking. Of course it receives more money. :?Stevo_the_gamer

Ehhhh. Drugs are only an "issue" because the government makes it one. Sort of like gay rights and abortion, which are total non-issues in other countries.

Derpy derp. Every deviance which becomes criminal does so by the government. Cute ethnocentrism though.

I overestimated your ability to come up with a coherent response. I'm sorry Steven. :(

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"] It shouldn't even be an issue in the first place. Jesus, let people consume what they want.

The f*ck? That's nice. Go live in your treehouse now.
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I overestimated your ability to come up with a coherent response. I'm sorry Steven. :(Aljosa23
Quite the sidestep there.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="leviathan91"]

On a national level, perhaps but on a global level?

Also, human trafficking isn't solely based on forcing people to travel one place to another. Some actually give consent to have them trafficked to avoid immigration issues.

Aljosa23

It's a step in the right direction.

You should move to my province. We just legalized brothels recently so prostitutes have a safe area to work in.

You mean in Canada?

Well I know where I'm going next. :P

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Because of frequency. This shouldn't be difficult to grasp.Toxic-Seahorse
It shouldn't even be an issue in the first place. Jesus, let people consume what they want.

Such a stupid comment. Letting people consume some drugs (the more dangerous ones) puts innocent people's lives at risk.

Going by that logic, consuming alcohol does the same or driving or doing most anything.
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#226 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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You mean in Canada?

Well I know where I'm going next. :P

leviathan91

Yup! The great province of Ontario.

Everyone else is jelly of us.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] It shouldn't even be an issue in the first place. Jesus, let people consume what they want.

The f*ck? That's nice. Go live in your treehouse now.

Do you support the legalization of drugs such as alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine?
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[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] It shouldn't even be an issue in the first place. Jesus, let people consume what they want. l4dak47
Such a stupid comment. Letting people consume some drugs (the more dangerous ones) puts innocent people's lives at risk.

Going by that logic, consuming alcohol does the same or driving or doing most anything.

Comparing apples and oranges, coke will destroy your heart by 30, alcohol with make you an idiot for a few hours, and driving is a necessity.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] It shouldn't even be an issue in the first place. Jesus, let people consume what they want.

The f*ck? That's nice. Go live in your treehouse now.

Do you support the legalization of drugs such as alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine?

The hell does any of that have to do with the topic? Get off your moral arguments, I'm not going to go in circles with your relative definitions of this sh*t.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"] Such a stupid comment. Letting people consume some drugs (the more dangerous ones) puts innocent people's lives at risk.TopTierHustler

Going by that logic, consuming alcohol does the same or driving or doing most anything.

Comparing apples and oranges, coke will destroy your heart by 30, alcohol with make you an idiot for a few hours, and driving is a necessity.

There are more deaths attributed to alcohol and nicotine then there are to coke.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] The f*ck? That's nice. Go live in your treehouse now.

Do you support the legalization of drugs such as alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine?

The hell does any of that have to do with the topic? Get off your moral arguments, I'm not going to go in circles with your relative definitions of this sh*t.

Oh, so we have a hypocrite here. Fvck off, then, you stupid fvck.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] It shouldn't even be an issue in the first place. Jesus, let people consume what they want. l4dak47
The f*ck? That's nice. Go live in your treehouse now.

Do you support the legalization of drugs such as alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine?

Gonna be strait with you for a sec. You make liberals look bad, you make it seem like liberals have no sense when it comes to limits.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Oh, so we have a hypocrite here. Fvck off, then, you stupid fvck.

The hell am I being hypocritical of?
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] The f*ck? That's nice. Go live in your treehouse now.TopTierHustler

Do you support the legalization of drugs such as alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine?

Gonna be strait with you for a sec. You make liberals look bad, you make it seem like liberals have no sense when it comes to limits.

Gonna be straight with you for a sec. You make liberals look bad. You make it seem like liberals want a nanny state that should dictate all our choices.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] Oh, so we have a hypocrite here. Fvck off, then, you stupid fvck.

The hell am I being hypocritical of?

You support only certain drugs.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] Oh, so we have a hypocrite here. Fvck off, then, you stupid fvck.

The hell am I being hypocritical of?

You support only certain drugs.

Where?
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[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Going by that logic, consuming alcohol does the same or driving or doing most anything. l4dak47

Comparing apples and oranges, coke will destroy your heart by 30, alcohol with make you an idiot for a few hours, and driving is a necessity.

There are more deaths attributed to alcohol and nicotine then there are to coke.

cigarettes should be illegal. and making coke legal would only increase the number of deaths.

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Comparing apples and oranges, coke will destroy your heart by 30, alcohol with make you an idiot for a few hours, and driving is a necessity.

TopTierHustler

No, too much alcohol will completely destroy your brain by the time you are in your late 30's or early 40's. Just like using too much coke will ruin your heart

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]Comparing apples and oranges, coke will destroy your heart by 30, alcohol with make you an idiot for a few hours, and driving is a necessity.

TopTierHustler

There are more deaths attributed to alcohol and nicotine then there are to coke.

cigarettes should be illegal. and making coke legal would only increase the number of deaths.

You want a nanny state, then? Despicable.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]The hell am I being hypocritical of?Stevo_the_gamer
You support only certain drugs.

Where?

You implied it when you refused to answer my question.
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[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Going by that logic, consuming alcohol does the same or driving or doing most anything. l4dak47

Comparing apples and oranges, coke will destroy your heart by 30, alcohol with make you an idiot for a few hours, and driving is a necessity.

There are more deaths attributed to alcohol and nicotine then there are to coke.

no sh*t, because coke is illegal therefore much more rarely used. More peopel are killed in car accidents than are murdered, is murdur fine? No. Your lack of logic baffels me.

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[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] There are more deaths attributed to alcohol and nicotine then there are to coke. l4dak47

cigarettes should be illegal. and making coke legal would only increase the number of deaths.

You want a nanny state, then? Despicable.

I want lower rates of cancer in the U.S. I want lower health bills.

Allowing something that doesn't make people any happier that causes those problems just makes society worse.

You need a logic lesson.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]Comparing apples and oranges, coke will destroy your heart by 30, alcohol with make you an idiot for a few hours, and driving is a necessity.

Toxic-Seahorse

There are more deaths attributed to alcohol and nicotine then there are to coke.

no sh*t, because coke is illegal therefore much more rarely used. More peopel are killed in car accidents than are murdered, is murdur fine? No. Your lack of logic baffels me.

False. Murder is illegal because it infringes on other people's rights. Consuming a drug does not inherently infringe on someone's else rights.
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#244 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]cigarettes should be illegal. and making coke legal would only increase the number of deaths.

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You want a nanny state, then? Despicable.

I want lower rates of cancer in the U.S. I want lower health bills.

Allowing something that doesn't make people any happier that causes those problems just makes society worse.

You need a logic lesson.

Coke causes cancer? News to me. Fyi, just about every damn thing causes cancer, so if you want to lower cancer rates/health bills, then you need to kill off everybody.
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#245 Bane_09
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]Comparing apples and oranges, coke will destroy your heart by 30, alcohol with make you an idiot for a few hours, and driving is a necessity.

Toxic-Seahorse

There are more deaths attributed to alcohol and nicotine then there are to coke.

no sh*t, because coke is illegal therefore much more rarely used. More peopel are killed in car accidents than are murdered, is murdur fine? No. Your lack of logic baffels me.

Just because something is illegal does not mean it is rarely used. Why do you think coke dealers make so much money? There's a huge demand for the drug that will exist whether legal or illegal and all that happens with the current system, is the money for the coke gets put in the hands of criminals

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#246 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] You support only certain drugs.

Where?

You implied it when you refused to answer my question.

lol
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#247 Toxic-Seahorse
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[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] There are more deaths attributed to alcohol and nicotine then there are to coke. l4dak47

no sh*t, because coke is illegal therefore much more rarely used. More peopel are killed in car accidents than are murdered, is murdur fine? No. Your lack of logic baffels me.

False. Murder is illegal because it infringes on other people's rights. Consuming a drug does not inherently infringe on someone's else rights.

It does when the drug makes you infringe on other's rights.
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#248 leviathan91
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[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] There are more deaths attributed to alcohol and nicotine then there are to coke. l4dak47

no sh*t, because coke is illegal therefore much more rarely used. More peopel are killed in car accidents than are murdered, is murdur fine? No. Your lack of logic baffels me.

False. Murder is illegal because it infringes on other people's rights. Consuming a drug does not inherently infringe on someone's else rights.

Exactly. There is a difference between infringing on other's rights and consenting. By that logic, if we wanted to ban drugs to protect the people, perhaps we should ban contact sports such as boxing or even football since they do lead to deaths (or at least, an early death).

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#249 Toxic-Seahorse
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[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] There are more deaths attributed to alcohol and nicotine then there are to coke. Bane_09

no sh*t, because coke is illegal therefore much more rarely used. More peopel are killed in car accidents than are murdered, is murdur fine? No. Your lack of logic baffels me.

Just because something is illegal does not mean it is rarely used. Why do you think coke dealers make so much money? There's a huge demand for the drug that will exist whether legal or illegal and all that happens with the current system, is the money for the coke gets put in the hands of criminals

lol, so you're saying that coke is as widely used at nicotine and alcohol. Right......
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#250 Toxic-Seahorse
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"] no sh*t, because coke is illegal therefore much more rarely used. More peopel are killed in car accidents than are murdered, is murdur fine? No. Your lack of logic baffels me.

leviathan91

False. Murder is illegal because it infringes on other people's rights. Consuming a drug does not inherently infringe on someone's else rights.

Exactly. There is a difference between infringing on other's rights and consenting. By that logic, if we wanted to ban drugs to protect the people, perhaps we should ban contact sports such as boxing or even football since they do lead to deaths (or at least, an early death).

You agree to play dangerous sports, nobody agrees to getting assaulted by someone under the influence of a drug. Drugs harm others.