Is D-Day, saving private ryan realistic?

Watching it right now, can't help but feel its got a good bit of hollywood hype, well there is no covering fire from the sea or air, no smoke cover, Must have known about the axis defences on the beach. Surely allies must have to give their soliders the best chance possible of survival, slack?

No use in talking about all this now but its such a powerful opening in SPR and it would be nice to know how realistic this really is. It seems like one German machine gun vs the whole allied army, and they cant take these out by air before the landing = daft?

Band of Brothers > Saving Private Ryan.

history is how spielbergwants it :PLoG-Sacrament

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Watching it right now, can't help but feel its got a good bit of hollywood hype, well there is no covering fire from the sea or air, no smoke cover, Must have known about the axis defences on the beach. Surely allies must have to give their soliders the best chance possible of survival, slack?

No use in talking about all this now but its such a powerful opening in SPR and it would be nice to know how realistic this really is. It seems like one German machine gun vs the whole allied army, and they cant take these out by air before the landing = daft?

Band of Brothers > Saving Private Ryan.

slicknet

You really should read about The Atlantic Wall. There wasn't much that could be done until boots hit the ground.br0kenrabbit

Good link, thanks, well that pretty much explains it. 6 million mines laid..

Watching it right now, can't help but feel its got a good bit of hollywood hype, well there is no covering fire from the sea or air, no smoke cover, Must have known about the axis defences on the beach. Surely allies must have to give their soliders the best chance possible of survival, slack?

No use in talking about all this now but its such a powerful opening in SPR and it would be nice to know how realistic this really is. It seems like one German machine gun vs the whole allied army, and they cant take these out by air before the landing = daft?

Band of Brothers > Saving Private Ryan.

slicknet

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either you're really young and haven't taken history in school, or you are just .... well.. i want to say really ignorant, but that just souds mean......

They had tanks on D-day but they didnt show them in the movie.trickmyster13

It's very, very exaggerated....No allied commander would send his troops to a death trap like that.jointed

Really? That's quite common....

[QUOTE="jointed"]It's very, very exaggerated....No allied commander would send his troops to a death trap like that.LJS9502_basic

Really? That's quite common....

No...it's not. No Allied commander (well except the Russians maybe) would sendhis troops against a beachhead with 8 metre high bunkers and without proper naval or air support as seen in the movie.

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[QUOTE="jointed"]It's very, very exaggerated....No allied commander would send his troops to a death trap like that.jointed

Really? That's quite common....

No...it's not. No Allied commander (well except the Russians maybe) would sendhis troops against a beachhead with 8 metre high bunkers and without proper naval or air support as seen in the movie.

The re-creation of said event was realistic. That has happened countless times in countless wars.

No...it's not. No Allied commander (well except the Russians maybe) would sendhis troops against a beachhead with 8 metre high bunkers and without proper naval or air support as seen in the movie.

jointed

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[QUOTE="jointed"]It's very, very exaggerated....No allied commander would send his troops to a death trap like that.jointed

Really? That's quite common....

No...it's not. No Allied commander (well except the Russians maybe) would sendhis troops against a beachhead with 8 metre high bunkers and without proper naval or air support as seen in the movie.

I know, because I was there.Hellraiser3899

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[QUOTE="jointed"]It's very, very exaggerated....No allied commander would send his troops to a death trap like that.LJS9502_basic

Really? That's quite common....

No...it's not. No Allied commander (well except the Russians maybe) would sendhis troops against a beachhead with 8 metre high bunkers and without proper naval or air support as seen in the movie.

The re-creation of said event was realistic. That has happened countless times in countless wars.

Well, the first troops didn't get shot as soon as the landingcraft's door opened for example. It's as realistic as possible, considering it was made by Hollywood. This has happened countless times in countless wars? No it has not...and what's your point?

Well, the first troops didn't get shot as soon as the landingcraft's door opened. It's as realistic as possible, considering it was made by Hollywood. This has been happened countless times in countless wars? No it has not...and what's your point?

jointed

Troops are expendable to achieve an objection.....fact of war.

You need to read up on some war history.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]It's very, very exaggerated....No allied commander would send his troops to a death trap like that.jointed

Really? That's quite common....

No...it's not. No Allied commander (well except the Russians maybe) would sendhis troops against a beachhead with 8 metre high bunkers and without proper naval or air support as seen in the movie.

The re-creation of said event was realistic. That has happened countless times in countless wars.

Well, the first troops didn't get shot as soon as the landingcraft's door opened. It's as realistic as possible, considering it was made by Hollywood. This has happened countless times in countless wars? No it has not...and what's your point?

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]It's very, very exaggerated....No allied commander would send his troops to a death trap like that.CommanderShiro

Really? That's quite common....

No...it's not. No Allied commander (well except the Russians maybe) would sendhis troops against a beachhead with 8 metre high bunkers and without proper naval or air support as seen in the movie.

The re-creation of said event was realistic. That has happened countless times in countless wars.

Well, the first troops didn't get shot as soon as the landingcraft's door opened. It's as realistic as possible, considering it was made by Hollywood. This has happened countless times in countless wars? No it has not...and what's your point?

Probably more than you..:roll:

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[QUOTE="jointed"]It's very, very exaggerated....No allied commander would send his troops to a death trap like that.jointed

Really? That's quite common....

No...it's not. No Allied commander (well except the Russians maybe) would sendhis troops against a beachhead with 8 metre high bunkers and without proper naval or air support as seen in the movie.

The re-creation of said event was realistic. That has happened countless times in countless wars.

Well, the first troops didn't get shot as soon as the landingcraft's door opened. It's as realistic as possible, considering it was made by Hollywood. This has happened countless times in countless wars? No it has not...and what's your point?

Probably more than you..:roll:

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Well, the first troops didn't get shot as soon as the landingcraft's door opened. It's as realistic as possible, considering it was made by Hollywood. This has been happened countless times in countless wars? No it has not...and what's your point?

LJS9502_basic

Troops are expendable to achieve an objection.....fact of war.

You need to read up on some war history.

What exactly should I read up on? I'm just basing my statements on photos takenfrom that D-day....

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[QUOTE="jointed"]It's very, very exaggerated....No allied commander would send his troops to a death trap like that.CommanderShiro

Really? That's quite common....

No...it's not. No Allied commander (well except the Russians maybe) would sendhis troops against a beachhead with 8 metre high bunkers and without proper naval or air support as seen in the movie.

The re-creation of said event was realistic. That has happened countless times in countless wars.

Well, the first troops didn't get shot as soon as the landingcraft's door opened. It's as realistic as possible, considering it was made by Hollywood. This has happened countless times in countless wars? No it has not...and what's your point?

Probably more than you..:roll:

Please tell me what comments of mine you think are inaccurate.

What exactly should I read up on? I'm just basing my statements on photos takenfrom that D-day....

jointed

You seem to think the troops are more important than objectives....and that's not always the case. I suggest reading some war histories...you may learn something.

Photos will never do justice to actual events....they are but a mere glimpse.

No...it's not. No Allied commander (well except the Russians maybe) would sendhis troops against a beachhead with 8 metre high bunkers and without proper naval or air support as seen in the movie.jointed

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What exactly should I read up on? I'm just basing my statements on photos takenfrom that D-day....

LJS9502_basic

You seem to think the troops are more important than objectives....and that's not always the case. I suggest reading some war histories...you may learn something.

Photos will never do justice to actual events....they are but a mere glimpse.

Photos will never do justice to actual events, true. But the photos taken show that it was not nearly as bad as in the movie...It was horrific, I'm sure, but the movie exaggerates a whole lot.

Photos will never do justice to actual events, true. But the photos taken show that it was not nearly as bad as in the movie...It was horrific, I'm sure, but the movie exaggerates a whole lot.

jointed

I'm betting actual events were worse...

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Photos will never do justice to actual events, true. But the photos taken show that it was not nearly as bad as in the movie...It was horrific, I'm sure, but the movie exaggerates a whole lot.

LJS9502_basic

I'm bettingactual eventswere worse...

Yeah, since nobody actually died during the movie scene....

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]

Photos will never do justice to actual events, true. But the photos taken show that it was not nearly as bad as in the movie...It was horrific, I'm sure, but the movie exaggerates a whole lot.

jointed

I'm bettingactual eventswere worse...

Yeah, since nobody actually died during the movie scene....

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What exactly should I read up on? I'm just basing my statements on photos takenfrom that D-day....

jointed

You seem to think the troops are more important than objectives....and that's not always the case. I suggest reading some war histories...you may learn something.

Photos will never do justice to actual events....they are but a mere glimpse.

Photos will never do justice to actual events, true. But the photos taken show that it was not nearly as bad as in the movie...It was horrific, I'm sure, but the movie exaggerates a whole lot.

Look they were advised by veterans who were there, they put millions of dollars into making it as close to the real thing as they could.

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Photos will never do justice to actual events, true. But the photos taken show that it was not nearly as bad as in the movie...It was horrific, I'm sure, but the movie exaggerates a whole lot.

MattUD1

I'm bettingactual eventswere worse...

Yeah, since nobody actually died during the movie scene....

They were firing live rounds? That's bold Spielberg....bold indeed.

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What exactly should I read up on? I'm just basing my statements on photos takenfrom that D-day....

LS07

You seem to think the troops are more important than objectives....and that's not always the case. I suggest reading some war histories...you may learn something.

Photos will never do justice to actual events....they are but a mere glimpse.

Photos will never do justice to actual events, true. But the photos taken show that it was not nearly as bad as in the movie...It was horrific, I'm sure, but the movie exaggerates a whole lot.

Look they were advised by veterans who were there, they put millions of dollars into making it as close to the real thing as they could.

And yet they got it wrong.....amazing.

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]

Photos will never do justice to actual events, true. But the photos taken show that it was not nearly as bad as in the movie...It was horrific, I'm sure, but the movie exaggerates a whole lot.

jointed

I'm bettingactual eventswere worse...

Yeah, since nobody actually died during the movie scene....

They were firing live rounds? That's bold Spielberg....bold indeed.

Fail.

And yet they got it wrong.....amazing.

jointed

Let's see....veterans that lived through it vs jointed....hmm....I'm going with the vets on this one.:lol:

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Photos will never do justice to actual events, true. But the photos taken show that it was not nearly as bad as in the movie...It was horrific, I'm sure, but the movie exaggerates a whole lot.

Dethshoot

I'm bettingactual eventswere worse...

Yeah, since nobody actually died during the movie scene....

They were firing live rounds? That's bold Spielberg....bold indeed.

Fail.

Ehm...no? :roll:

This is getting on my nerves. I've really hit a nerve here, if you Americans really think this is such a sacred event, I'll not say more about it.

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And yet they got it wrong.....amazing.

LJS9502_basic

Let's see....veterans that lived through it vs jointed....hmm....I'm going with the vets on this one.:lol:

well said

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And yet they got it wrong.....amazing.

LJS9502_basic

Let's see....veterans that lived through it vs jointed....hmm....I'm going with the vets on this one.:lol:

No...It's more like, Movie made by Hollywood vs Photos taken on the actual day of the landings.