How not to react when your child tells you he's gay.

@Jacanuk: the parents views aren't really defendable though. The religious aspect of them is irrelevant. If the parents were racist and didn't want them to date outside their skin color, what would you say?

Take religion out of the equation. Would you still say that we should respect the parents beliefs?

Because the views of the racists and the views of people who don't accept homosexuality are on the same level. I'm sorry if you think that offends people's religion but they don't get to hide behind religion as if it is this infallible always respectable thing.

no I mean the state of being that a soul attains if they are aligned with the wrong side. Keep an open mind, the things religion and popculture teach about spirituality are nearly 100% incorrect, purposefully so you are told a lie on purpose so that you'll find it stupid, like you do with your self-righteous indignation. There's more to reality than it appears.

Yeah, im a little skeptical on this, havent watche the video and i care not too but I've been hearing about this. First why film it, yes i heard the excuse of something might happen like him getting hurt but he put it the internet. Sounds like he is looking for an audience.

Second he got $80 grand as donations? Is he giving it the lgbt or some other charity or is he pocketing it. Sounds like a very good scam to me and everyone is failing for it.

Also I guess I should note that I am very much aware that religious views are not this monolithic thing, and am just talking about a specific subset of beliefs.

I can see why anyone, not just Christians, thinks its a choice for most people who are living a the gay lifestyle.The behavior of a lot of young people disputes the born gay belief. I have friends who were never gay in high school but are now gay for fun. many young people, mainly girls, are going bi/gay for fun as a youth then going back to being straight as they get older. kind of hard to say being gay isn't a choice when you see the youth of today.

Seems like the kid was hoping to provoke his parents. All he had to keep his mouth shut till he moved out. Instead he confronts his parents on camera.

At least this guy has some wisdom. Why create further anguish? Bide your time

Of course the parents views are defendable they have a right to believe in a god, its even written down in the 1st amendment.

And i don't need to take religion out of the equation, not mention that even mentioning that religious beliefs is comparable to racisme is just way out there and has no basis.

Again having religion is not irrational, being racist is. So what about we stay on topic and not go of course like that.

The only problem I see here is two asshole parents berating their son for something he has no control over. The same thing would probably have happened even if he didn't tape it. Is he supposed to suppress who he is because his parents are awful?

Jesus has a good heart. He even died for our sins and let us enter Heaven because God thought of us as his greatest mistake. I'm sure he forgives gays as well as he never mentioned anything about homosexuality in the bible.

@Jacanuk: of course the parents have the right to do what they want. And I will defend that right, but I'm not going to hold my tongue on how shitty I think those views are, nor will I not think less of them as people. If they were racists that's also completely within their right. And I keep bringing up racism to hone in on the idea that if this was a race thing it wouldn't be much worse at all then what these parents are doing. Their views are on par with parents who disown their kid for dating the wrong skin color. The views being based in a religious context doesn't make them any less awful.

his mom got one thing right.. he is quite literally a son of a bitch.

There's no limit to how crappy people can be. It would have been better for him to hold off on telling his parents until he's already out of the house. Surely he knew his parents would react badly. Being gay isn't his choice, but when he comes out to his parents is. Still, it's a terrible situation and I hate that some kids wind up dealing with it. I couldn't listen to the full video. Depressing stuff.

Watching this debate is like watching Mike Tyson beat up a 4 year old.

@MakeMeaSammitch: I must tell you that instigation does you no honor.

I feel the father.

@elkoldo said:

I feel the father.

LMFAO

which movie is it from ??? =P

@indzman said:

@elkoldo said:

I feel the father.

LMFAO

which movie is it from ??? =P

َAmerican Beauty :P

Jesus ,if you haven't seen this movie, then what in God's name have you been doing with your life ?!

@elkoldo said:

@indzman said:

@elkoldo said:

I feel the father.

LMFAO

which movie is it from ??? =P

َAmerican Beauty :P

Jesus ,if you haven't seen this movie, then what in God's name have you been doing with your life ?!

Seen American Pie. not American Beauty. Isn't it about a pedo?

@indzman said:

@elkoldo said:

@indzman said:

@elkoldo said:

I feel the father.

LMFAO

which movie is it from ??? =P

َAmerican Beauty :P

Jesus ,if you haven't seen this movie, then what in God's name have you been doing with your life ?!

Seen American Pie. not American Beauty. Isn't it about a pedo?

No. It's about a guy having a mid life crisis and decides to quit his job and do what ever he wants, including trying to sleep with a high school girl

@toast_burner said:

@indzman said:

@elkoldo said:

@indzman said:

@elkoldo said:

I feel the father.

LMFAO

which movie is it from ??? =P

َAmerican Beauty :P

Jesus ,if you haven't seen this movie, then what in God's name have you been doing with your life ?!

Seen American Pie. not American Beauty. Isn't it about a pedo?

No. It's about a guy having a mid life crisis and decides to quit his job and do what ever he wants, including trying to sleep with a high school girl

Ahhh ! Isn't a middle age man trying to sleep with a high school girl considered a pedophile act?

No paedophilia means attraction to prepubescent children. Having sex with a a teenager who is under age would be statutory rape.

Ahhh, sorry had misconception about pedophilia. So, American Beauty worth watching? Just checked on wiki, directors good Sam Mendes.

It's a little dated and rather pretentious. But it's still a good film.

Nice. Its on my see list now :)

More and more children are staying with their parents past the age of 18. Especially now that a lot more adults are going to college. Its difficult to go straight to college if you have to leave your parents home at 18. I'm still with my mom and I'm currently 20. I don't plan to move out until I'm 21 when I transfer to a university. I don't think children should have to focus on supporting themselves unless the parents are very clear early on that they will have too.

@BranKetra: And I must say that talking like that makes you sound weird.

Yep, I lived with my parents past 20 as well. It was like renting a room; I did the chores and payed my share of the bills, but until I managed to get a job that payed well, it seemed a bit ridiculous to be spending all my paycheck into rent of a tiny apartment, when my parents never showed any interest in getting me out of the house. It's not always easy to move out, there's a lot of factors...or maybe it was because I lived in a shitty country where the minimum wager wasn't even enough to rent a 1 bedroom apartment...

I could say some things about you and the way you generally post, but I do not want to single you out as that would be impolite and off-topic.

Damn, you just dodge conflict don't you? Not the first time i've seen you do this.

You say you don't want to single me out, but you took the time to say a back handed off topic comment.

It says a lot.

There was nothing "back-handed" about it. I simply felt the need to address a comment about me to a certain extent in a way that was fair. If you feel it was not, you are welcome to explain why along with anything else I am doing which is concerning to you in a private conversation or at Bug Reporting & Feedback.

No hard feelings

Hard to accept but have to!

Quit condoning bullshit behavior behind the guise of religion, its lazy and stupid. The parents are bigots plain and simple, not a single iota better than racists. There is NOTHING defendable about what they did. To try and justify it says a lot your own character.

Last I checked we were all sinners, hope you don't actually own a cell phone or a handheld electronic device.. Because we have linked cell phone electronics with conflict metals from Africa.. Leading to deaths of people.. Our materialism had led to the deaths of numerous people, either directly or indirectly.. It only illustrates how fucked up and backwards your beliefs are if you think this some how is worse than numerous other sins out there that as a culture we are collectively guilty of.. And finally perhaps you should crack open the good book and read up how we are all sinners and that you have to accept in faith, Jesus as savior.. Being gay and still holding that belief would not change this.....

There is more to parenting than providing shelter and food.. Perhaps you should talk to child services, a service that constantly deems parents unfit to have custody of their children even when they have food and shelter.. And I am sorry but what? Are we talking about Darfur? Rwandan Genoicide.. Or WW2 Holocaust or Nanking massacre.. Or wait what about Vietnam War.. Or how about the Influenza epidemic of 1918 where 70 million people died right after we had a massive World War 1 with millions dead in killing one another.. The only thing hilarious here is how ignorant you are in pointing out one event among many of genocides, massacres, and disasters throughout the last 100 years that have taken place at far greater capacity..

Tell us genius, what makes the current event some how the tipping point? And not the hundreds before it, ones that you don't even mention while trying to berate people in ignoring these tragedies...

**** Christianity and religion in general.

I wouldn't kick my son out of the house but it would definitely be a mental blow to me. I'd probably call my best friend up and immediately go out for a drink. That's a hell of a shock to get. The kid has been working this out in their mind for years. The parent is supposed to work it out in split seconds? That's not realistic imo. Just like how women fret over being pregnant and process it for days and weeks but then expect their boyfriends or husbands to have the most super idealistic reaction the second they find out about it. That's only if it's a total shock though. If my son had been flaming since like age 4 I'd probably just react like, "you're the only one who hadn't come to grips with this yet."

After that day I think I'd be fine with it. Call it sexist or whatever, but if my son is gay he's under daughter rules where we have an understanding the the less I know about your sex life, the better for all of us. Anything you can do to keep me in the dark is exactly what I'm looking for. You don't have to hide who you're dating or the fact that you date from me, but when around me I want to have the impression that it's some super wholesome Leave it to Beaver relationship. You ant sex talk from a parent, talk to your mother.

That's for a son though. If it was my daughter, she'd probably be upset because my reaction would be, "whatever," and I'd go back to doing whatever it was that I was doing. Girls being gay is whatever. They already do so much suspect stuff that I wouldn't be shocked to find out they were experimenting with being bisexual or were full on homosexual. The same rules of please keep me in the dark would apply though.

@Senor_Kami: Why would your child's sexual orientation be a "mental blow" one way or another? Also, why is it so hard for you to embrace the fact that your child might be sexually active that you'd have to pretend that they're not? And if I understood correctly, if it was a straight son you would want to know about his sex life? That's confusing to me...I'm not judging, just curious.