Here's what the GOP promises to do for YOU

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[QUOTE="testfactor888"]I am glad Republicans are doing this. Guybrush_3

I second this. I'd rather they stand for what they said they were going to. Anything bad that happens in the process lands squarely falls on the democrats' shoulders.

Are you serious? The republicans are holding the country hostage and you think anything bad that happens is the democrats fault?

Personal responsibility and accountability is everything because the lack of it is why this country is in the hole to begin with. Having compasion is one thing but to say that personal responsibility is important to an extent is foolish. You should always have it.

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How is a child personally responsible about getting fed? They're children for Christ's sake. You can pin this whole holier than thou attitude on adults about responsibility but how on Earth can you punish a child for being poor and in a disadvantage position?

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Personal responsibility and accountability is everything because the lack of it is why this country is in the hole to begin with. Having compasion is one thing but to say that personal responsibility is important to an extent is foolish. You should always have it.

HoolaHoopMan

How is a child personally responsible about getting fed? They're children for Christ's sake. You can pin this whole holier than thou attitude on adults about responsibility but how on Earth can you punish a child for being poor and in a disadvantage position?

Because it's the parents responsibility, and you don't make someone responsible by giving them free handouts and encouraging them to have kids when they can't afford them.

Look at the Cabrini-Green projects (mostly the people that lived there) in Chicago that just closed. Perfect example of government idiocy and ***-backward entitlement programs. Things are done with the best intentions, but have adverse effects.

Anyways, a lot of the kids that get free lunch don't even need it. They're parents are perfectly capable of paying yet they siphon off the system.

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Isn't that what Darth Caedus just did?:lol:

SpartanMSU

he is obviously a double agent, posing as a democrat when in reality he is a diehard neoconservative Limbaugh disciple!

Nice try, Caudeus! You cant fool us liberals, though, we are two smart four u! bwahahahaha!

:P

So what was the point of this post?

just a little joke to lighten the mood. Sorry if it was not funny/went over your head :D

Life is too short to argue over politics all the time.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] my dad was a single parent raising two kids and he worked at Safeway. if he could be responsible for his kids and his own i dont see why anyone else cant. did my brother have the latest clothing? hell no, we lived Spartan as all hell but we lived because we understood responsibility and that is the greatest gift any father can give to his sons.surrealnumber5

Why in the world do you think your situation (if you're not making it up) is so relevant when talking about other people's situations?

And I fail to see what race has to do with this conversation.

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Personal responsibility and accountability is everything because the lack of it is why this country is in the hole to begin with. Having compasion is one thing but to say that personal responsibility is important to an extent is foolish. You should always have it.

HoolaHoopMan

How is a child personally responsible about getting fed? They're children for Christ's sake. You can pin this whole holier than thou attitude on adults about responsibility but how on Earth can you punish a child for being poor and in a disadvantage position?

I wouldn't even bother. Some people are just so full of ideology that there's no room for reality.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] That's great for you, but other families haven't been able to get by without assistance from the government, and even then they aren't really getting by. There exists kids that are dependent on school lunch programs - this is a fact and there's no way to deny it.

Why in the world do you think your situation (if you're not making it up) is so relevant when talking about other people's situations?

And I fail to see what race has to do with this conversation.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] i went to school in the "ghetto" for the first 6 years of my primary scholastic life, and those kids getting the free lunches sure as hell had more creature comforts then i. thank god i was pulled out of that racist place after the principle told my dad that there is no room for white kids in TAGsurrealnumber5

Why in the world do you think your situation (if you're not making it up) is so relevant when talking about other people's situations?

And I fail to see what race has to do with this conversation.

It's the internet. Anybody can make up a narrative that fits their argument. That's why it's better to avoid anecdotal arguments. I mean, maybe you're story is true. I have no idea.But...why is it particularly relevant what you've seen? How does what you've seen apply to other people's situations? Are you omnipotent or something? Your experiences don't account for the difficulities that other people face. Seriously, stop being so self-absorbed.

Lastly, you still haven't told me what race has to dodo with this conversation.

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Why in the world do you think your situation (if you're not making it up) is so relevant when talking about other people's situations?

And I fail to see what race has to do with this conversation.

It's the internet. Anybody can make up a narrative that fits their argument. That's why it's better to avoid anecdotal arguments.

Again, why is it particularly relevantwhat you've seen?How does what you've seen apply to other people's situations? Are you omnipotent or something? Your experiences don't account for the difficulities that other people face. Seriously,stop being so self-absorbed.

Lastly, you still haven't told me what race has to dodo with this conversation.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] he was talking about inner city kids, and in my life i have seen nothing but abuse of these systems. oh yea and screw you if you think my life is fake.surrealnumber5

It's the internet. Anybody can make up a narrative that fits their argument. That's why it's better to avoid anecdotal arguments.

Again, why is it particularly relevantwhat you've seen?How does what you've seen apply to other people's situations? Are you omnipotent or something? Your experiences don't account for the difficulities that other people face. Seriously,stop being so self-absorbed.

Lastly, you still haven't told me what race has to dodo with this conversation.

I probably shouldn't have included the bit about "making it up". It wasn't called for. It's just that I have witnessed so many instances of people just making **** up on the internet to bolster their stories that I'm cynical.

But anyway, like I said, I don't see how you can take your particular situation and apply it to others as if all the variables are constant.

You seemed to have had a responsible father and he seemed to be able to make things work. Otherkidsdon't have stable family situations and as Sun_Tzu said, they are dependent on school lunches.

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It's the internet. Anybody can make up a narrative that fits their argument. That's why it's better to avoid anecdotal arguments.

Again, why is it particularly relevantwhat you've seen?How does what you've seen apply to other people's situations? Are you omnipotent or something? Your experiences don't account for the difficulities that other people face. Seriously,stop being so self-absorbed.

Lastly, you still haven't told me what race has to dodo with this conversation.

I probably shouldn't have included the bit about "making it up". It wasn't called for. It's just that I have witnessed so many instances of people just making **** up on the internet to bolster their stories that I'm cynical.

But anyway, like I said, I don't see how you can take your particular situation and apply it to others as if all the variables are constant.

You seemed to have had a responsible father and he seemed to be able to make things work. Otherkidsdon't have stable family situations and as Sun_Tzu said, they are dependent on school lunches.

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