Do You Accept Jesus's Gift Of Salvation, Believing That He Died On The Cross And Rose Again For Your SIns?

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occult is derived from the word oculus. It means hidden from sight, containing esoteric meaning. The very word contains part of the word eye in latin because it means hidden to the eye. But good work doing 4 seconds of googling then quoting an incorrect definition. Oy vey, I'm talking to a moron.

Oh and I did take a bit of Latin in middle school. Oculus only means eye. Occult is derived from occultus which means hidden.

I'm glad to see that at least 1/3 of the people confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

Salient thread.

33 out of 109%

wut

What's up with the 109%?

Quit bumping the thread unless you can add something meaningful to it. It'll get locked.

it had no meaning from post 1 :P

I get the feeling he only bumped it to try and see if he could spark more debating in here, that and the TC probably doesn't want his precious thread to go too long forgotten about and sink into the forum graves.

If anything it showed us how unreliable Gamespot polls are.

The fact is that no one has come back to life after dying to me kind of proves that there is no God.

If there was a God then couldn't he make people come back to life again after they have died? But fact is that none of those who died ever came back to us. Not even a single one of them.

No one has been proven to come back to life from being dead.

Jesus Christ never came back to life either. At least there is no shred of evidence that he ever did come back.

Also the fact that intelligent life is so rare in the Universe also kind of proves, to me at least, that there is no God.

I mean if there was a God then couldn't he create conditions which are better suited for the development of intelligent life in the universe.

But fact is that life is very rare in the universe and those people who die never come back to live again. In other words, death is very probably final.

I think that many people have difficulty coming to terms with the finality of death and the very probable nonexistence of God.

smh at some of the responses to this thread. I was raised Christian, and while I'm not the most religious person in the world, I cringe whenever people just blatantly attack Christianity and even go so far as to say "Hail Satan" (Joking or not)

Hell is serious shit, man. I sure as heck don't want to end up there. Think of it this way: If heaven and hell are not real, what do you think will happen when you die? Do you think it'll be like an eternal sleep? Your whole body won't work anymore. you can't think. Dunno about you guys but I can't fathom that. If you believe we have souls then that means those souls go somewhere when their vessels die. As a non-Christian your options are hell and just ceasing to exist. As a christian heaven is an option. Do you want anything short of heaven when you die? I sure don't. I'm not 100% sure I'll go there if I die today, but I sure as heck don't embrace that fact.

0/10, hail satan

So you can't understand not existing after you die but you're perfectly fine knowing you didn't exist before you were born? Or do you believe in reincarnation as well?

P.S Hail Satan

Remember what it was like before you were born? Yeah, that.

And the word 'Soul' doesn't mean what you think it does. A Soul isn't something you have, it's what you are WHILE ALIVE.

Nephesh is a Biblical Hebrew word which occurs in the Hebrew Bible (or Old Testament). The Hebrew terms nephesh literal is "living being". Although it is commonly rendered as soul in English translations, the word refers to the tangible aspects of life, and human beings and higher animals are both described as having a nephesh.

-Linky

Where does it say that?

Oh for crying out loud...

I half to say this thread is overdue for a lock.

The creator of this thread just won't quit, but, hate to break it to you, even if this thread does get locked, he is probably just gonna make a new thread... similar to this thread but not exactly the same.

To whom are you replying?

Hail Satan. Not joking.

Pascal's Wager assumes Christianity is right. What if Norse Paganism is right and we'll all end up in Hel for forsaking Odin and his Son, Almighty Thor? Wouldn't you feel terrible assuming Christianity might be right when it is in fact Odin that dictates the fates of all those who walk on the Earth?

You have to look at the actual Evidence. Christianity is the one supported by the actual evidence.

Interesting poll results. Currently 34% answered yes, which I think is close to the percent of the world's population that is Christian. I think about 80-85% of Americans are Christian.

Gamespot users tend to be mostly American, but there are a lot of international users. For some weird reason though Gamespot users seem like as a group they are more liberal/leftist and atheistic/agnostic/indifferent than the general population.

Is that really what Evangelical Protestants believe, or is that just a caricature. The Bible says quite clearly in the Book of James that "faith without works is dead" (2:26) and many Evangelicals have done plenty of good deeds and dedicated their life to evangelizing and serving others (for example I recently read that Tim Tebow opened up a hospital in the Philippines).

Also this verse comes to mind: Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter" (Matthew 7:21).

To be fair, I think that's a minority of Christians who would say that that woman would go to hell (besides we can't be sure Hitler and Stalin are there either).

As for the first guy, yes if he ends his life on a good note he'd go to Heaven, though many Christians would say he'd have to spend some time being purified (purgatory) of all those sins first, he wouldn't go straight to Heaven.

@SaintLeonidas said:

Lmao Ja'mie.

In most instances English translations use soul for naphesh, which refers to the inner essence of a physically living being, but it's not like the Bible doesn't include terms like ruach (used about 400 times in the bible), that literally does mean breath of god, spirit, wind, etc. and was also translated as soul. Not to mention even early translators were aware of this, hence the Greeks using "life" when translating "naphesh" and "breath" when translating "ruach."

The word soul can mean eternal spirit in english and is derived from old english and germanic words that may relate to binding one for the grave so as not to let one's ghost escape.

It's probably not a good idea to tell people what they mean. He's not misusing the word soul as he is using the english language and giving it its english meaning.

And the answer to your question is no, I do not remember before I was born, therefore I cannot fathom that. Perhaps you can fathom it, by all means tell us what it was like.

So you agree that the meaning has evolved. That's great, because it doesn't matter what anyone meant except the author.

And no I don't remember before I was born, and that's the point: there's nothing to contemplate after death because you can't. Nonexistence exists on both sides of existence.

You told him the word soul doesn't mean what he thought it does, in this I see no evidence of your being correct. He may not have been aware of every aspect of its origins, or he may have been. There is NO evidence to suggest he was using it incorrectly for his meaning.

Do you have evidence of the finite quality of our existence? Which is not to suggest you must leap to faith in the absence of evidence, only that I would think a normal attitude of anyone that values the empirical and isn't faithful is, and most likely always will always be, "I don't know what, if anything exists beyond consciousness" rather than "I know there is nothing."

The TC has done this way too many times already, which is why this is getting the lock now.