Christians that hate and judge h0mosexuals are hypocrites....

It's only the few idiots who can't seem to accept that other people might disagree with them (mainly in threads that open can of worms) that it happens.ShadowsDemon

We accept that you have an opinion. We simply wish for you to back it up and not resort to childish tactics like "sausage in bum" and misrepresenting what a "strawman" is.

Or your typical "Keep on believing that :|" or your vague "That's stupid, you're wrong, :|" comments. You can call us whatever insult you want but that only further proves our point.

inb4 "why should i explain mysef to you????"

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]It's only the few idiots who can't seem to accept that other people might disagree with them (mainly in threads that open can of worms) that it happens.Slashless

We accept that you have an opinion. We simply wish for you to back it up and not resort to childish tactics like "sausage in bum" and misrepresenting what a "strawman" is.

Or your typical "Keep on believing that :|" or your vague "That's stupid, you're wrong, :|" comments. You can call us whatever insult you want but that only further proves our point.

inb4 "why should i explain mysef to you????"

Science will continue to back religion into a smaller and smaller corner. Eventually relgion will be an afterthought. Love for all, hope for progress, and faith in eachother will take its place within all of us. We will look past the past, remove yet another reason to segregate ourselves from ourselves. And even if it's not the last step, it will be a step in unity between all.

InEMplease

maybe one day we can take a trip to the Christian History Museum at the vatican :P

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]It's only the few idiots who can't seem to accept that other people might disagree with them (mainly in threads that open can of worms) that it happens.Slashless

We accept that you have an opinion. We simply wish for you to back it up and not resort to childish tactics like "sausage in bum" and misrepresenting what a "strawman" is.

Or your typical "Keep on believing that :|" or your vague "That's stupid, you're wrong, :|" comments. You can call us whatever insult you want but that only further proves our point.

inb4 "why should i explain mysef to you????"

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]It's only the few idiots who can't seem to accept that other people might disagree with them (mainly in threads that open can of worms) that it happens.Slashless

We accept that you have an opinion. We simply wish for you to back it up and not resort to childish tactics like "sausage in bum"

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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] :|ShadowsDemon

rofl.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="Slashless"]

rofl.

Teenaged

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]You don't seriously expect Christians to vote in favor of gay marriage, do you? I get the whole wanting equal rights thing, but that's democracy. You vote on everything.Philosopho

Christians are super imposing their private religious beliefs on this group through the law, this is fundamentally un-American. (which is why I give the fundamentalists among them the nick name of "The American Taliban") The federal government needs to step in and say "no, you cannot determine their rights, their rights are as inherent as your own". Sometimes, the majority is wrong. So no, we do NOT vote on everything, and for good reason. Hell, if the civil rights bill were put up to a popular vote in some southern states, it may just be overturned there. Christians have got to learn how to keep their religion to themselves, and out of our laws. Pretty much all the would be theocrats in the right wing were trounced in this last election, that sends a clear message.

I am not American.

I am just saying, if you give someone the right to vote against you, you can't get mad when they vote against you. Well, you can, but you can't seriously think that they're not going to vote against you.

Frankly, I support polygamy, and if I were American and had to vote, I would vote accordingly. However, I do not expect a bill legalizing polygamy to actually pass. I also support lowering the age of consent to the age in most European countries (14-16), but once again the reality is that if I were American, that would never pass either.

Lol,Christianity is the most pathetic,annoying,stupid,prude,preservative,brainwashing,parasitic,destructive religion in the world.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="Slashless"]

rofl.

Teenaged

[QUOTE="JoGoSo"] 1 Cor. 6 tells a very good reason. XaosII

I LOL'ed.

"The reason isnt important"

"Except, in Christianity, the reason is important."

"God tells you not to do it because God tells you not to do it."

See if you can follow the point:

- Person says God does not give reasons

- I say God doesn't have to give us a reason but does so anyway since we are curious of what we join

- Idiot comes on the board and says "Derp, Circular reasoning"

- Most smart people would call it answering the question.

If you don't want to truly discuss this and simply want to make lame posts with cute gifs, there's got to a be a million "short bus" thread for that all over the internet.

/mini rant since it probably wasn't understood anyway

I often here from some Christians (certianly not all) that homosexuality is a sin and a death sentence to hell, and I wonder if these people have actually read The Bible to begin with.

Now to be fair I am a Jew so I may not have the best understanding of Christian theology, but I read The Bible (I find it important to learn about different faiths) and I can safely say that Christians (again some) have missed the point completely or never read it in the first place.

Jesus said "He who is without sin cast the first stone", guess what? That means that you are not allowed to judge homosexuals if you are a Christian. Jesus also said to love your neighbor as you love yourself, and that all men are God's children.

That also includes homosexuals. Also The Bible does not talk about same sex marriage, not once. It seems to be a non issue and Jesus seemed to be more concerned with heterosexual couples and what they do and not homosexuals.

The message of The Bible is to love God and to love others. Why do (some) people that call themselves Christians misunderstand this?

ShadowMoses900

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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Taking one section of my post and trying to make me look stupid? That's classy.ShadowsDemon

But we arent.

So... what exactly confuses you?

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Taking one section of my post and trying to make me look stupid? That's classy.ShadowsDemon

Well it is very difficult to surpass you in that regard.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I often here from some Christians (certianly not all) that homosexuality is a sin and a death sentence to hell, and I wonder if these people have actually read The Bible to begin with.

Now to be fair I am a Jew so I may not have the best understanding of Christian theology, but I read The Bible (I find it important to learn about different faiths) and I can safely say that Christians (again some) have missed the point completely or never read it in the first place.

Jesus said "He who is without sin cast the first stone", guess what? That means that you are not allowed to judge homosexuals if you are a Christian. Jesus also said to love your neighbor as you love yourself, and that all men are God's children.

That also includes homosexuals. Also The Bible does not talk about same sex marriage, not once. It seems to be a non issue and Jesus seemed to be more concerned with heterosexual couples and what they do and not homosexuals.

The message of The Bible is to love God and to love others. Why do (some) people that call themselves Christians misunderstand this?

helwa1988

Actually it doesn't the whole Lie with another man thing is just more sexism, it means you can tell a woman lies but not another man.

TC if judging others is wrong....doesn't that make you wrong as well and by extension a hypocrite?

TC if judging others is wrong....doesn't that make you wrong as well and by extension a hypocrite?

LJS9502_basic

The whole "cast the first stone" thing is from Christianity. Thus, only Christians should have to abide by that belief.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

TC if judging others is wrong....doesn't that make you wrong as well and by extension a hypocrite?

th3warr1or

The whole "cast the first stone" thing is from Christianity. Thus, only Christians should have to abide by that belief.

As for cast the first stone....well that depends. I do follow that. It's not my place to say who will or will not be saved. However, on the other hand...one should certainly point out to a murderer for instance that murder is the wrong course of action. That does not make one a hypocrite.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

TC if judging others is wrong....doesn't that make you wrong as well and by extension a hypocrite?

LJS9502_basic

The whole "cast the first stone" thing is from Christianity. Thus, only Christians should have to abide by that belief.

Not necessarily. He's judging a Christian according to Christianity. It's certainly possible to objectively judge someone according to their belief without sharing it.

You don't have to be Muslim to tell a Muslim that he's sinning by not fasting, or eating pork. Yeah, there's no reason to really, but if this Muslim is going round telling other Muslims that all muslims who eat pork are sinners, when he himself eats pork, a third party can call him out on hypocrisy even if he [the 3rd party] eats pork.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] He's not judging people according to his beliefs though. He's judging them according to theirs. And he's also not talking about judging people in general, but rather Christians (not people) judging homosexuals.

The whole "cast the first stone" thing is from Christianity. Thus, only Christians should have to abide by that belief.

th3warr1or

Not necessarily. He's judging a Christian according to Christianity. It's certainly possible to objectively judge someone according to their belief without sharing it.

You don't have to be Muslim to tell a Muslim that he's sinning by not fasting, or eating pork. Yeah, there's no reason to really, but if this Muslim is going round telling other Muslims that all muslims who eat pork are sinners, when he himself eats pork, a third party can call him out on hypocrisy even if he [the 3rd party] eats pork.

It's not my place to say who will or will not be saved. However, on the other hand...one should certainly point out to a murderer for instance that murder is the wrong course of action. That does not make one a hypocrite.LJS9502_basic

For instance....I would not tell a Muslim they are hypocrites for not following their month long fast as I don't believe in it.>LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="JoGoSo"] It boils down to being mad about not being a part of a club that you didn't want to belong to in the first place.Nuck81

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]For instance....I would not tell a Muslim they are hypocrites for not following their month long fast as I don't believe in it.>Nuck81

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]For instance....I would not tell a Muslim they are hypocrites for not following their month long fast as I don't believe in it.>LJS9502_basic