CA vaccine bill bans personal, religious exemptions

Vaccines are something that has been hotly debated for the past few years (thanks Andrew Wakefield)

Gov Jerry Brown has signed into law a strict vaccine bill that bans previous "loopholes" for personal and religious exemptions

Under the proposal, if a parent chooses to not vaccinate their child, the parent would have to home-school their child, participate in a multifamily private home-school or use public school independent study that's administered by local education agencies, according to Pan and co-sponsor Sen. Ben Allen, former board president of the Santa Monica-Malibu Unified School District.

This proposal and passage of this law may be due to the recent measles outbreak at Disneyland and apparently CA vaccine rates have dropped to critical levels

"The current rate of vaccination in too many of California's schools is below the level needed for 'herd immunity' -- the critical percentage needed to prevent small outbreaks from spreading and become epidemics," Vaccine California's website said.

So good? bad?

Fascist?

Jim Carrey has proceeded to post multiple other tweets about vaccines alongside pictures of children with autism, which has made some people unhappy

All my kids are vaccinated, but I'm not a fan of this.

Very good news. Children shouldn't have to suffer because of a parents selfishness.

Not keen on the government telling parents they have to do something for the parents. Granted parents can home school to avoid this, but still just not a fan.

No, I'm not some loon who thinks that vaccines are bad (although I'm not a fan of aluminum in vaccines).

Hold up, lostrib made a thread on OT? This isn't system wars.

I guess I should explain a little more. I have no problem if the kids are attending public schools. But this applies to private schools too.

I just don't want them to keep going with this trend in saying you have to get this because we believe it is healthy.

That's good

It's on public roads. I know this kind of thing is done all around, but none of those things involve injecting your kids with substances. It's all good, but is there a line when we say enough?

Honestly, I like how my wife handled it. She didn't follow the vaccine path that was recommended and only allowed one vaccine per visit that had aluminum in it.

Glad this happened.

You simply don't like it because it is the state telling you to get it?

Forcing. Not necessarily the vaccines, but where will it end is what I mean. Not trying to be all paranoid, vaccines are good and kids should get them.

I understand that. This isn't necessarily about vaccines.

Yes and no.

Yes, I acknowledged that. If parents want their kids to receive an education outside of their house, that is when they must get immunized.

But it's protecting those kids and those around them.

Seems like common sense here.

But I love me some sweet Vaccine talk

I can see that point of view. As for where to draw the line, I don't know. Perhaps at stuff you can not choose to get or not???

I may be wrong, but if my kids have been vaccinated(and they have) then they are safe from others.

For parents that both have to work, it's not really a choice.

Good, parents should not put the lives of children at risk by failing to vaccinate.

Such as? If they can't afford to have one parent work part time or just stop working to teach kids, what choice do they have? They have to send their kids to school.

apparently public school independent study or homeschool from other parents

@lostrib: Fair enough.

Now then, back on topic; Glad to see something done right.

I was almost just expecting just "lolantivaxers" :P

Seriously, good. What idiot would risk their child's safety on the off-chance that they're right about some stupid conspiracy theory?

Edit: Also, a kid recently just died here in Barcelona from a perfectly preventable disease because he wasn't vaccinated. The general reaction was "What the ever-loving **** were you expecting from not vaccinating your child, you blithering idiot?" I didn't hear anybody defending the parents.

I don't see why everything in the USA has to be a debate with pros and cons. Some things don't have two sides to the tale: global warming exists, vaccines are good, etc etc. Fucking deal with it already. And you don't have to give the one idiot who denies it a microphone and the entire stage just to spark a debate from nothing.

They don't use mercury anymore...

And this is good for my niece. My sister is one of those skeptics that wouldn't vaccinate her baby.

Your poor, poor niece... No offense to your sister.

It's always sad to see dumb celebrities spreading false information.

Good stuff. Personal "religious" exemptions are nonsense.

As long as it is healthy, there should not be a problem granted public schools are chosen for children.

Good.

As long as what is healthy? Vaccines? The children? I have no clue what you are trying to say in this sentence.

Hears a good middle ground. Stop using heavy metals and overly toxic shit in the vaccines. I'm sure they can figure out a way to do that.

what exactly are you talking about?

in other news, Jim Carrey exposes his stupidity to a worldwide audience.

Getting vaccinated, of course.

Good.

Getting an infectious disease and passing it on to non-vaccinated people (i.e. those unable to medically be vaccinated, like young children) should be a crime.

@lostrib: Good, and lets get this shit federal... I don't understand how religions get these special privileges in the first place. Do whatever you want, I don't care, but when your actions affect other people it's not a right.

Vaccines are good for you. The very reason I rarely get sick and recover quickly should I do so.

Also who are you going to believe a medical professional or random lunatics on the internet.