Assualt Rifles - Why do you USA citizens need them.

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"][QUOTE="Rec-neps"]

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See why I would want a high powered rifle that can shoot many bullets?

smtfs2113

Yeah but 10 of them will do the job. Hence the importance of semi-auto weapons.

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"][QUOTE="Smoke89"]

How on earth is this realivant? They were talking about automatic..... Yes, I have shot an AK-47 and an AR-15. Thank you for paying attention :roll:

Smoke89

The difference is you have to pull the trigger every time, which depends on the operator. They were talking about why do we need guns that spray bullets at a person, when in reality it is simply how many times the trigger is pulled.

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"][QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

Yeah but 10 of them will do the job. Hence the importance of semi-auto weapons.

smtfs2113

10 high velocity chunks of lead into the brain and other vital organs is much different than a slow moving, wide truck. The impact is spread out over the whole body instad of just one vital point on the bear. A human could survive being hit by that truck. 60 km per hour is pretty damn slow. (only 37 mph to all my fellow Americans)

[QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"] I doubt a 5.56 ( what you americans prefer) is going to do anything to a 600+ bear.King-Saddam

Yeah but 10 of them will do the job. Hence the importance of semi-auto weapons.

The real question is: Why do you foreigners care so much?

[QUOTE="Smoke89"]

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"] My point is that it doesnt matter if its full auto or semi most assault rifles have high rpm. It does not matter if it is not full auto 10 shots in the chest on semi is relatively similar to 15 on auto. King-Saddam

The difference is you have to pull the trigger every time, which depends on the operator. They were talking about why do we need guns that spray bullets at a person, when in reality it is simply how many times the trigger is pulled.

You are missing the entire point for the sake of arguing. Go back and read what we were talking about. Shesh

[QUOTE="_Verm"]The right of the people to bare arms is gaurenteed according to the constitution. spazzx625

The real question is: Why do you foreigners care so much?

howlrunner13

[QUOTE="howlrunner13"]

The real question is: Why do you foreigners care so much?

ChicaQueenWarGa

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"][QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

10 high velocity chunks of lead into the brain and other vital organs is much different than a slow moving, wide truck. The impact is spread out over the whole body instad of just one vital point on the bear. A human could survive being hit by that truck. 60 km per hour is pretty damn slow. (only 37 mph to all my fellow Americans)

smtfs2113

Way to avoid the first half of my responce.

A militia is composed of private citizens. its saying that the right to bear arms for the people shouldn't be infringed so they already have guns to join militias to protect their states._Verm

In our early American history, this would be relevant at the time in the belief that the state militias would act as our armed forces. Unfortunately, the War of 1812 shows how unreliable our militias were. Because of this, the militias were disbanded.

How is it an amendment that gave the right to bear arms based on militia use eventually came to interpreted to give the right to bear arms in general (self-defense, hunting, etc.)?

[QUOTE="ChicaQueenWarGa"][QUOTE="howlrunner13"]

The real question is: Why do you foreigners care so much?

King-Saddam

You don't pay attention and start arguments over nothing then go and insult Americans with an extremely rude stereotype. Get over yourself.

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"][QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

10 high velocity chunks of lead into the brain and other vital organs is much different than a slow moving, wide truck. The impact is spread out over the whole body instad of just one vital point on the bear. A human could survive being hit by that truck. 60 km per hour is pretty damn slow. (only 37 mph to all my fellow Americans)

smtfs2113

Way to avoid the first half of my responce.

Not only that, but that impact is very survivable. Sure you'd probably have a broken leg or two but you'd live. Of course it all depends on how you are hit.

[QUOTE="ChicaQueenWarGa"][QUOTE="howlrunner13"]

The real question is: Why do you foreigners care so much?

King-Saddam

It's only an assault rifle when it's used for assault. Much like any weapon it's only weapon when it's intended to be a weapon.The term assault rifle is used for all long guns& carbinesthat are typically used for assault.Before automatic rifles existed bolt action, pump action& lever action rifles were the assault rifles of choice. And before those Cap & Ball.

I lower capacity gun just has larger more powerful ammunition. One shot will kill. A slug gun (12 Gauge gun loaded with slugs instead of shot) is an ass kicker.

Why? Because restrictions that forbid law abiding citizens from obtaining firearms won't stop the lawless. So banning or restricting is futile. It only protects the government anyway. Aside from that we believe in civil defense& militia. It'sOUR country.Trust is all we really have. I trust my neigbors to watch my back as they trust me.

Why do some choose automatic rifles that support high capacity magazines? Because there are many variations that are cheap because they are surplus. Why hi-cap mags? Why not? Why pay $70-$100 for three 10 round mags when you can buy one 20 or 30 roundfor $20-$30 depending on make and caliber?

Youdo know we can get licensed forshort barrels and sub-machine-gunsas well as some light-machine-guns?Of course you need a squeeky clean record and a large walletto obtain the permits. But I think the money is more important. Money tends to bendor ignorewhateverrules are in the way.

We don't. But don't try saying that out loud. Supporters will come up with some crazy excuse. Maniacc1

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"][QUOTE="ChicaQueenWarGa"] This one is super easy. Because foreigners think every American is the same.Smoke89

You don't pay attention and start arguments over nothing then go and insult Americans with an extremely rude stereotype. Get over yourself.

[QUOTE="Smoke89"]

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"] Most Americans can't think for the greater good.King-Saddam

You don't pay attention and start arguments over nothing then go and insult Americans with an extremely rude stereotype. Get over yourself.

Right, that would totally happen :roll: ... Ignorance really is bliss for you isn't it?

[QUOTE="Smoke89"]

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"] Most Americans can't think for the greater good.King-Saddam

You don't pay attention and start arguments over nothing then go and insult Americans with an extremely rude stereotype. Get over yourself.

[QUOTE="_Verm"]A militia is composed of private citizens. its saying that the right to bear arms for the people shouldn't be infringed so they already have guns to join militias to protect their states.jerahmeela

In our early American history, this would be relevant at the time in the belief that the state militias would act as our armed forces. Unfortunately, the War of 1812 shows how unreliable our militias were. Because of this, the militias were disbanded.

How is it an amendment that gave the right to bear arms based on militia use eventually came to interpreted to give the right to bear arms in general (self-defense, hunting, etc.)?

The real question is: Why do you foreigners care so much?

howlrunner13

We need them to defend against a tyrannical government. I don't care what anyone says about the 2nd Amendment being made in a time when the most powerful weapons people could get their hands on were single shot muskets. If the government continues on the path its on we'll end up being enslaved to the government in no time and, unfortunately, hunting rifles won't do much against F-22s and Abrams. Don't get me wrong, M16s won't do much either, but it at least levels the playing field somewhat.

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"]

[QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

Way to avoid the first half of my responce.

smtfs2113

What gives you the right to make statements about guns and ammo? Have you studied these things at all? If you seriously think that 10 high velocity rounds to the brain of a bear will do leass damage than the bear getting hit by a slow moving truck than you need to go back to the second grade.

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"][QUOTE="Smoke89"]

You don't pay attention and start arguments over nothing then go and insult Americans with an extremely rude stereotype. Get over yourself.

Smoke89

Right, that would totally happen :roll: ... Ignorance really is bliss for you isn't it?

The second amendment doesn't guarantee guns...spazzx625

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"][QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

What gives you the right to make statements about guns and ammo? Have you studied these things at all? If you seriously think that 10 high velocity rounds to the brain of a bear will do leass damage than the bear getting hit by a slow moving truck than you need to go back to the second grade.

smtfs2113

The end of a hammer is much smaller than a truck. The impact would be concentrated on my heart instead of on my whole body. It's basic physics kid. You have this video game mentallity when it comes to gunshot wounds. Just because one round hits the head doesnt mean it's going to drop the bear. The entire head isn't vital, heck even the entire brain isn't vital. different parts have different functions. If you fire 10 rounds accurately into the head of a bear, chances are at least one of them hits the brain stem and drops it instantly. And since when have I been argueing for full auto?

So would you like to inform me what the difference is between a regular rifle and a civilian assault rifle? :|

So would you like to inform me what the difference is between a regular rifle and a civilian assault rifle? :|

Saturos3091

Why does anybody buy anything? Because they like to...

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]

So would you like to inform me what the difference is between a regular rifle and a civilian assault rifle? :|

King-Saddam

No they don't.... Thanks for getting your information from Counter Strike. :lol:

[QUOTE="ChicaQueenWarGa"][QUOTE="King-Saddam"] Most Americans can't think for the greater good.King-Saddam

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"]

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]

So would you like to inform me what the difference is between a regular rifle and a civilian assault rifle? :|

Guppy507

No they don't.... Thanks for getting your information from Counter Strike. :lol:

[QUOTE="Guppy507"]

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"] Well an assault rifle is a rifle with a pistol grip and is magazine loaded and most often has 3 or more selective firing modes.

King-Saddam

No they don't.... Thanks for getting your information from Counter Strike. :lol:

assault rifle
 
-noun
1. a military rifle capable of both automatic and semiautomatic fire, utilizing an intermediate-power cartridge.
2. a nonmilitary weapon modeled on the military assault rifle, usu. modified to allow only semiautomatic fire.

There, straight from the dictionary for you.Do you ever give up?

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"][QUOTE="Guppy507"]

No they don't.... Thanks for getting your information from Counter Strike. :lol:

smtfs2113

Again wrong. What makes you think you know about guns? you really need to stop.

[QUOTE="Guppy507"]

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"] Well an assault rifle is a rifle with a pistol grip and is magazine loaded and most often has 3 or more selective firing modes.

King-Saddam

No they don't.... Thanks for getting your information from Counter Strike. :lol:

OMG..... there isn't a safe mode. There's a safety mechanism. There's 1 firing mode, semi-automatic, meaning fires one shot per trigger pull. Automatic, meaning fires as long as the trigger is held down, is highly illegal, unless you have the license for it.

I thought an AK-47 counted as an assault rifle, at least it does in Rainbow 6: vegas 2.