Assualt Rifles - Why do you USA citizens need them.

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#1 King-Saddam
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Sure your 2nd ammendment garuntees you guns but doesn`t garuntee assualt rifles, they have no reasonable purpose except killing humans, I do not think any citizen need them.

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Because it's an American thing to do.
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The second amendment doesn't guarantee guns...
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You realize an assult riffle is just a normal rifle that happens to have a pistol grip and a magazine right? They aren't auto.

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People have hobbies.
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my guess is testosterone has something to do with it.

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#7 _Verm
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The second amendment doesn't guarantee guns...spazzx625
The right to bear arms is what the second ammendment is...
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]The second amendment doesn't guarantee guns..._Verm
The right to bear arms is what the second ammendment is...

I'm full aware, but right != guarantee.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.The 2nd Amendment
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So people who aren't from the United States will freak out over it.
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#11 _Verm
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[QUOTE="_Verm"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]The second amendment doesn't guarantee guns...spazzx625
The right to bear arms is what the second ammendment is...

I'm full aware, but right != guarantee.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.The 2nd Amendment

A militia is composed of private citizens. its saying that the right to bear arms for the people shouldn't be infringed so they already have guns to join militias to protect their states.
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#12 Smoke89
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Some people enjoy shooting and many even participate in shooting sports. Why do you have to question everything about American culture?

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We really don't. Some people like to exert their authority over animals, I guess.

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Some people enjoy shooting and many even participate in shooting sports. Why do you have to question everything about American culture?

Smoke89

Because he genuinely wants to clarify aspects of our culture. Ignorance is not bliss.

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[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="_Verm"] The right to bear arms is what the second ammendment is..._Verm
I'm full aware, but right != guarantee.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.The 2nd Amendment

A militia is composed of private citizens. its saying that the right to bear arms for the people shouldn't be infringed so they already have guns to join militias to protect their states.

Exactly. The ONLY people the right isn't guaranteed to is felons which is understandable. You give up your 2nd amendment right then.

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We really don't. Some people like to exert their authority over animals, I guess.

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It's called hunting and population control. :lol:
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#17 King-Saddam
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You realize an assult riffle is just a normal rifle that happens to have a pistol grip and a magazine right? They aren't auto.

Pirate700

Yes I realize that and my point is you do not need a weapon that shoots multiple bullets. Regardless of it being full auto all assault rifles are semi auto or with the option of going full auto. Again why do you need one.

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[QUOTE="_Verm"] A militia is composed of private citizens. its saying that the right to bear arms for the people shouldn't be infringed so they already have guns to join militias to protect their states.

Again...I am aware. Right does not equal guarantee...:|
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[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

We really don't. Some people like to exert their authority over animals, I guess.

fidosim

It's called hunting and population control. :lol:

Exactly.

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[QUOTE="Smoke89"]

Some people enjoy shooting and many even participate in shooting sports. Why do you have to question everything about American culture?

Hot-Tamale

Because he genuinely wants to clarify aspects of our culture. Ignorance is not bliss.

:roll: Ah so he told you personally what his reasons are. I guess he sent you a PM about it.

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[QUOTE="_Verm"] A militia is composed of private citizens. its saying that the right to bear arms for the people shouldn't be infringed so they already have guns to join militias to protect their states.spazzx625
Again...I am aware. Right does not equal guarantee...:|

...unless you're some Libertarian nutjob, of course.

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#22 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You realize an assult riffle is just a normal rifle that happens to have a pistol grip and a magazine right? They aren't auto.

King-Saddam

Yes I realize that and my point is you do not need a weapon that shoots multiple bullets.

And with that, I'm out of here. That's the most rediculous thing I've heard in a long time. I mean, just wow.

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#25 _Verm
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="_Verm"] A militia is composed of private citizens. its saying that the right to bear arms for the people shouldn't be infringed so they already have guns to join militias to protect their states.

Again...I am aware. Right does not equal guarantee...:|

The right of the people to bare arms is gaurenteed according to the constitution.
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[QUOTE="Smoke89"]

Some people enjoy shooting and many even participate in shooting sports. Why do you have to question everything about American culture?

Hot-Tamale

Because he genuinely wants to clarify aspects of our culture. Ignorance is not bliss.

Like pirate said, I am glad he told you his innocent intentions of simply wanting to understand Americans more.

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#27 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

Because he genuinely wants to clarify aspects of our culture. Ignorance is not bliss.

Hot-Tamale

:roll: Ah so he told you personally what his reasons are. I guess he sent you a PM about it.

Don't be an ass. Asking these questions isn't hurting anyone.

:lol: Don't say what his reasons are like you know for sure.

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[QUOTE="King-Saddam"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You realize an assult riffle is just a normal rifle that happens to have a pistol grip and a magazine right? They aren't auto.

smtfs2113

Yes I realize that and my point is you do not need a weapon that shoots multiple bullets. Regardless of it being full auto all assault rifles are semi auto or with the option of going full auto. Again why do you need one.

What modern guns do you know of that don't shoot multiple bullets? DO you expect everone to walk around with single shot firearms? What good is that when it comes to self defense?

If you got shot once, would you still be staggering toward your shooter? I don't think so. Single-shot firearms get the job done, you don't need to butcher your assailant in a hail of gunfire.

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#29 King-Saddam
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[QUOTE="King-Saddam"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You realize an assult riffle is just a normal rifle that happens to have a pistol grip and a magazine right? They aren't auto.

smtfs2113

Yes I realize that and my point is you do not need a weapon that shoots multiple bullets. Regardless of it being full auto all assault rifles are semi auto or with the option of going full auto. Again why do you need one.

What modern guns do you know of that don't shoot multiple bullets? DO you expect everone to walk around with single shot firearms? What good is that when it comes to self defense?

Magazine less firearms. When did I target handguns which I suppose, self defense is one of its strong points.
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[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

[QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"]Yes I realize that and my point is you do not need a weapon that shoots multiple bullets. Regardless of it being full auto all assault rifles are semi auto or with the option of going full auto. Again why do you need one.

What modern guns do you know of that don't shoot multiple bullets? DO you expect everone to walk around with single shot firearms? What good is that when it comes to self defense?

If you got shot once, would you still be staggering toward your shooter? I don't think so. Single-shot firearms get the job done, you don't need to butcher your assailant in a hail of gunfire.

One shot may kill or disable someone in a movie, but in real life there are many, many variables to such a situation.
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We don't need them, and we don't have them. At least, no new ones.
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[QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"]Yes I realize that and my point is you do not need a weapon that shoots multiple bullets. Regardless of it being full auto all assault rifles are semi auto or with the option of going full auto. Again why do you need one.

Hot-Tamale

What modern guns do you know of that don't shoot multiple bullets? DO you expect everone to walk around with single shot firearms? What good is that when it comes to self defense?

If you got shot once, would you still be staggering toward your shooter? I don't think so. Single-shot firearms get the job done, you don't need to butcher your assailant in a hail of gunfire.

FYI it is illegal for standard Civilians to own automatic weapons.

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The right of the people to bare arms is gaurenteed according to the constitution. _Verm
You're missing my point...But whatever. In that vein, arms can be assault weapons, so US citizens are 'guaranteed' whatever arms they want...
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[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

[QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

What modern guns do you know of that don't shoot multiple bullets? DO you expect everone to walk around with single shot firearms? What good is that when it comes to self defense?

If you got shot once, would you still be staggering toward your shooter? I don't think so. Single-shot firearms get the job done, you don't need to butcher your assailant in a hail of gunfire.

One shot may kill or disable someone in a movie, but in real life there are many, many variables to such a situation.

I don't know about you but a 7.62 to the chest is putting you down. Again that is what pistols in my opinion are for. I doubt anyone prefers using a assault rifle over a handgun for self defense.
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Because those people live in the 'hood. It's dangerous.
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#37 Rec-neps
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This is what I see everyday when I step outside Pic

This is what I can come across at any moment Pic 2

See why I would want a high powered rifle that can shoot many bullets?

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#38 King-Saddam
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[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

[QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

What modern guns do you know of that don't shoot multiple bullets? DO you expect everone to walk around with single shot firearms? What good is that when it comes to self defense?

Smoke89

If you got shot once, would you still be staggering toward your shooter? I don't think so. Single-shot firearms get the job done, you don't need to butcher your assailant in a hail of gunfire.

FYI it is illegal for standard Civilians to own automatic weapons.

I am sure you have never shot a semi auto assault rifle. I have a Ak-74 and you can easily shoot a magazine very quickly with some experience.
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One shot may kill or disable someone in a movie, but in real life there are many, many variables to such a situation.King-Saddam
I don't know about you but a 7.62 to the chest is putting you down. Again that is what pistols in my opinion are for. I doubt anyone prefers using a assault rifle over a handgun for self defense.

Most people use handguns for self defence, and most people with assault rifles simply collect them or use them in a shooting range/hunting scenario. Having a handgun with only one bullet for self-defence is absurd.

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This is what I see everyday when I step outside Pic

This is what I can come across at any moment Pic 2

See why I would want a high powered rifle that can shoot many bullets?

Rec-neps
No but I see why you might think about moving.
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[QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"]Yes I realize that and my point is you do not need a weapon that shoots multiple bullets. Regardless of it being full auto all assault rifles are semi auto or with the option of going full auto. Again why do you need one.

Hot-Tamale

What modern guns do you know of that don't shoot multiple bullets? DO you expect everone to walk around with single shot firearms? What good is that when it comes to self defense?

If you got shot once, would you still be staggering toward your shooter? I don't think so. Single-shot firearms get the job done, you don't need to butcher your assailant in a hail of gunfire.

i mean its not like you could miss the person (sarcasm) or hit him in a spot where he will keep on walking.

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#43 King-Saddam
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This is what I see everyday when I step outside Pic

This is what I can come across at any moment Pic 2

See why I would want a high powered rifle that can shoot many bullets?

Rec-neps
I doubt a 5.56 ( what you americans prefer) is going to do anything to a 600+ bear.
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[QUOTE="Smoke89"]

[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

If you got shot once, would you still be staggering toward your shooter? I don't think so. Single-shot firearms get the job done, you don't need to butcher your assailant in a hail of gunfire.

King-Saddam

FYI it is illegal for standard Civilians to own automatic weapons.

I am sure you have never shot a semi auto assault rifle. I have a Ak-74 and you can easily shoot a magazine very quickly with some experience.

How on earth is this realivant? They were talking about automatic..... Yes, I have shot an AK-47 and an AR-15. Thank you for paying attention :roll:

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[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

[QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

What modern guns do you know of that don't shoot multiple bullets? DO you expect everone to walk around with single shot firearms? What good is that when it comes to self defense?

smtfs2113

If you got shot once, would you still be staggering toward your shooter? I don't think so. Single-shot firearms get the job done, you don't need to butcher your assailant in a hail of gunfire.

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. A single shot MAY kill or disable the person being shot, but with the rounds civilians have, 80% of the time one shot won't do the job. And yes, If I got shot once by any normal civilian round in a non vital area(over 60% of the body) I would still be fighting.

I highly doubt that. I realize that the fight or flight mechanism would kick in, but in most cases I see a shot to the chest or leg good enough to put someone down. I'm curious, where do you get your statistics from?

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[QUOTE="smtfs2113"]

[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

If you got shot once, would you still be staggering toward your shooter? I don't think so. Single-shot firearms get the job done, you don't need to butcher your assailant in a hail of gunfire.

Hot-Tamale

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. A single shot MAY kill or disable the person being shot, but with the rounds civilians have, 80% of the time one shot won't do the job. And yes, If I got shot once by any normal civilian round in a non vital area(over 60% of the body) I would still be fighting.

I highly doubt that. I realize that the fight or flight mechanism would kick in, but in most cases I see a shot to the chest or leg good enough to put someone down. I'm curious, where do you get your statistics from?

Have you ever seen what a person with bullets in them is capable of? No, so don't act like you know what you are talking about.....

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[QUOTE="King-Saddam"][QUOTE="Smoke89"]

FYI it is illegal for standard Civilians to own automatic weapons.

Smoke89

I am sure you have never shot a semi auto assault rifle. I have a Ak-74 and you can easily shoot a magazine very quickly with some experience.

How on earth is this realivant? They were talking about automatic..... Yes, I have shot an AK-47 and an AR-15. Thank you for paying attention :roll:

My point is that it doesnt matter if its full auto or semi most assault rifles have high rpm. It does not matter if it is not full auto 10 shots in the chest on semi is relatively similar to 15 on auto.
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[QUOTE="Smoke89"]

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"] I am sure you have never shot a semi auto assault rifle. I have a Ak-74 and you can easily shoot a magazine very quickly with some experience. King-Saddam

How on earth is this realivant? They were talking about automatic..... Yes, I have shot an AK-47 and an AR-15. Thank you for paying attention :roll:

My point is that it doesnt matter if its full auto or semi most assault rifles have high rpm. It does not matter if it is not full auto 10 shots in the chest on semi is relatively similar to 15 on auto.

The difference is you have to pull the trigger every time, which depends on the operator. They were talking about why do we need guns that spray bullets at a person, when in reality it is simply how many times the trigger is pulled.