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#1 RailroadBridge
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I dont like Obama, I dont believe in this global warming BULL,I dont believe in same sex marriage, I dont believe in excessive welfare, I dont believe in abortions, I believe in gun ownership,I am a Republican, I believe that there is a God

The general consenses by the media would state that I am a self centered egotistical bigot. Apparently I am a not tolerant of other races and religions, although I meet new people every day and have some friends that fall into these categories. I am the type of person the media is trying to degrade, however I will stand up against them and stand for my beliefs.

So do you wanna be my friend?

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#2 T_REX305
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not evil. just different. punishing them for who they are is evil.

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#3 bloodling
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Why don't you believe in global warming?

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#4 T_P_O
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I dont like Obama, I dont believe in this global warming BULL,I dont believe in same sex marriage, I dont believe in excessive welfare, I dont believe in abortions,RailroadBridge

They kinda happen regardless of your beliefs

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#5 deactivated-5c37d3adcd094
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Why don't you believe in global warming?

bloodling
Because he's chosen to ignore all evidence and has instead decided to base his opinion on nothing. What's wrong with that? Oh, wait. I think I see it now.
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#6 Bluestorm-Kalas
Member since 2006 • 13073 Posts

It means we have too many different opinions for me to like you. That's for damn sure.

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#7 l4dak47
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No. You're just another average man on this planet we call Earth. Btw, yea, sure I'll be your friend.
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#8 Teenaged
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not evil. just different. punishing them for who they are is evil.

T_REX305

Well having those beliefs means that one will get to vote about them if he/she is given the option. Maybe one cant call that "punishing" the groups of people due to that person's choices which negatively affect said groups but its definitely not a good thing.

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#9 Scr00I
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Of course i will be your friend. Also, i do not think you are evil.

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#10 First_Descent
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I find you are the typical 50's man. You believe in the conservative govern pertaining to issues that are the same. I would not be a friend of yours because I really do have different views, especially global warming, and gay marriages. I don't believe in church and I find religion stupid. I think you are the people that want to stay in power because you are afraid of change. You want to keep the hegemonic ideologies of the past so that there is no change in the future. Without change, we will never grow and we haven't, especially based on years experience. The only way we have changed is due to people that are not like you. I don't mean to sound harsh, but that is just my view!

Also for welfare, I believe that if it helps one person or one family, than it was all worth it. I don't believe that people on welfare are lazy and useless, of course there are people who take advantage of the system, but you can't generalize on all of them.

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#11 flash_drive
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How can one not believe in Abortion?
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#12 l4dak47
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How can one not believe in Abortion?flash_drive
Religion differences, perhaps?
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#13 loft8000
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That doesnt make you evil, but it makes you seem rather smallminded.

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#14 deactivated-6016f2513d412
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I dont like Obama, I dont believe in this global warming BULL,I dont believe in same sex marriage, I dont believe in excessive welfare, I dont believe in abortions, I believe in gun ownership,I am a Republican, I believe that there is a GodRailroadBridge
While I disagree with almost everything you've typed here, I wouldn't call you evil (debatable concept anyway). I'd just say that you're a very typical conservative guy. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with that.
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#15 wstfld
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Sound like my old roommate. He made sure to call me an n-word lover and a reetard on a daily basis because I voted for Obama.
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#16 Loco_Live
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I dont like Obama, I dont believe in this global warming BULL,I dont believe in same sex marriage, I dont believe in excessive welfare, I dont believe in abortions, I believe in gun ownership,I am a Republican, I believe that there is a God

The general consenses by the media would state that I am a self centered egotistical bigot. Apparently I am a not tolerant of other races and religions, although I meet new people every day and have some friends that fall into these categories. I am the type of person the media is trying to degrade, however I will stand up against them and stand for my beliefs.

So do you wanna be my friend?

RailroadBridge

▲ No thanks, I don't make friends with close minded people. ▲

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#17 Empirefrtw
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[QUOTE="RailroadBridge"]

I dont like Obama, I dont believe in this global warming BULL,I dont believe in same sex marriage, I dont believe in excessive welfare, I dont believe in abortions, I believe in gun ownership,I am a Republican, I believe that there is a God

The general consenses by the media would state that I am a self centered egotistical bigot. Apparently I am a not tolerant of other races and religions, although I meet new people every day and have some friends that fall into these categories. I am the type of person the media is trying to degrade, however I will stand up against them and stand for my beliefs.

So do you wanna be my friend?

Loco_Live

▲ No thanks, I don't make friends with close minded people. ▲

Having different views does not mean he is close minded.
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#18 grounderman
Member since 2010 • 341 Posts

rise again.

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#19 Metal_Mario99
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If you're looking for friends here, I'm afraid you're out of luck. Most people here are raging hippies. Not me, of course, but most of the others.

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#20 -Katsuri-
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All I can say is....don't stop believin'.
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#21 deactivated-5a79221380856
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I think your opposition to same-sex marriage and your loyalty to a party who I disagree with on major moral issues to be ethically flawed. I don't think that makes you evil as a person. To be evil in my eyes, you have to commit actions so treasonous to a rational moral code that they overshadow any good you do. Honestly, I don't watch a lot of the mainstream media. I watch a lot of Fox News so I'm not familiar with what the media, outside of Fox News that is, says about conservatives.

I am a libertarian who is anti-tax, pro-life, for a separation of church and state that would make Jefferson frown, for same-sex marriage, for the death penalty, for abstinence-only education, skeptical of global warming, very antireligious, and doesn't believe in God. I would say that I'm not completely accepted by the conservative, liberal, or even some libertarian camps. It doesn't matter. You shouldn't be concerned about having people like you. You should be more concerned with being rational and within that rational mindset, being yourself.

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#22 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

[QUOTE="RailroadBridge"]

I dont like Obama, I dont believe in this global warming BULL,I dont believe in same sex marriage, I dont believe in excessive welfare, I dont believe in abortions, I believe in gun ownership,I am a Republican, I believe that there is a God

The general consenses by the media would state that I am a self centered egotistical bigot. Apparently I am a not tolerant of other races and religions, although I meet new people every day and have some friends that fall into these categories. I am the type of person the media is trying to degrade, however I will stand up against them and stand for my beliefs.

So do you wanna be my friend?

Empirefrtw

▲ No thanks, I don't make friends with close minded people. ▲

Having different views does not mean he is close minded.

Not necessarily.

You cant be certain that he called him close minded simply because he disagrees with him.

Or to put it better: you cant be sure that a person that is in disagreement with another isnt holding their beliefs due to close-mindedness.

First we'll have to hear the reasons why one hold said beliefs and doesnt change them.

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#23 deactivated-5a79221380856
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How can one not believe in Abortion?flash_drive
I think he means he doesn't support abortion, which I totally get if you view the embryo as a living being.
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#24 jimmyjammer69
Member since 2008 • 12239 Posts

Your business, Cnut. Try not to herniate yourself if the tides don't roll back for you though. :P

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#25 jdc6305
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I belive your intitled to your opinion as much are others are intitled everything your opposed to. What people do with they're lives is none of my buisness or anyone elses. It's all about freedom the right to chose whats best for ones self. I find it funny that you oppose personal freedom but yet you support gun ownership.

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#26 Empirefrtw
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[QUOTE="Empirefrtw"][QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

▲ No thanks, I don't make friends with close minded people. ▲

Teenaged

Having different views does not mean he is close minded.

Not necessarily.

You cant be certain that he called him close minded simply because he disagrees with him.

Then how did he? Unless there was something I missed he called him close minded because their views conflicted.
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#27 Metal_Mario99
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I find it funny that you oppose personal freedom but yet you support gun ownership.

jdc6305

Maybe because gun ownership is in the Constitution, but killing your unborn baby isn't?

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#28 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Empirefrtw"] Having different views does not mean he is close minded.Empirefrtw

Not necessarily.

You cant be certain that he called him close minded simply because he disagrees with him.

Then how did he? Unless there was something I missed he called him close minded because their views conflicted.

I edited my post.

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#29 richsena
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I dont like Obama, I dont believe in this global warming BULL,I dont believe in same sex marriage, I dont believe in excessive welfare, I dont believe in abortions, I believe in gun ownership,I am a Republican, I believe that there is a God

The general consenses by the media would state that I am a self centered egotistical bigot. Apparently I am a not tolerant of other races and religions, although I meet new people every day and have some friends that fall into these categories. I am the type of person the media is trying to degrade, however I will stand up against them and stand for my beliefs.

So do you wanna be my friend?

RailroadBridge

Me and you, we could be friends =).

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#30 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="flash_drive"]How can one not believe in Abortion?l4dak47
Religion differences, perhaps?

I find that anti-abortion viewpoints generally arise from straight-up ethical viewpoints, not religious ones. Most religious texts don't mention abortion at all.

Instead, the difference comes from whether one believes the fetus constitutes a person at the time of the abortion. If it does, then it would effectively be murder. If it does not, then it would be personal rights issue.
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#32 Empirefrtw
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Empirefrtw"]Not necessarily.

You cant be certain that he called him close minded simply because he disagrees with him.

Empirefrtw

Then how did he? Unless there was something I missed he called him close minded because their views conflicted.

I edited my post.

Of course but I never said in my post that having different beliefs 100% doesn't mean he isn't close minded but only that differing view points doesn't always mean that the other person is close minded.
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#33 Englando_IV
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Evil? No. Self centered bigot? That's doesn't sound too far off.
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#34 Brozekial
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Definitely couldn't be friends. You're not evil, just misinformed and unwilling to learn. I believe in freedom. I believe that each person has the freedom to do exactly as they please, and it is the freedom of the people involved with said actions to do as they please. There are no rules to life, except that everything must eventually die. I don't like your close-mindedness and your refusal to submit to factual information (global warming IS real). To those of you debating on whether this guy is close-minded or not: how about explaining why someone would be loyal to a party, regardless of their political stances on issues? What kind of person would choose a side before even hearing the argument? And it seems, like millions and millions of other people, he has chosen his set of moral and political views based on stereotypical opinions about Republicans. Let me guess, your parents are Republican and so is the majority of your community? The media doesn't degrade you, you degrade you. Maybe you should read some books.
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#35 jdc6305
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[QUOTE="jdc6305"]

I find it funny that you oppose personal freedom but yet you support gun ownership.

Metal_Mario99

Maybe because gun ownership is in the Constitution, but killing your unborn baby isn't?

I don't agree with abortion butwhat people do in ther're own lives is none of my buisness. Ibelive in the freedom of choice. Isnt that what democracy is about?I belive in order to protect freedom we have to protect the right to choose. I don't want the government to dictate to me what I should and shouldn't do. I'd like to think I can make those choices myself. Isn't that what freedoms about?

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#37 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Empirefrtw"][QUOTE="Teenaged"] Then how did he? Unless there was something I missed he called him close minded because their views conflicted.Empirefrtw
I edited my post.

Of course but I never said in my post that having different beliefs 100% doesn't mean he isn't close minded but only that differing view points doesn't always mean that the other person is close minded.

Yeah I agree with that.

I wasnt sure what you meant; I just felt like pointing out what I... pointed out. :P

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#38 Metal_Mario99
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[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="jdc6305"]

I find it funny that you oppose personal freedom but yet you support gun ownership.

jdc6305

Maybe because gun ownership is in the Constitution, but killing your unborn baby isn't?

I don't agree with abortion butwhat people do in ther're own lives is none of my buisness. Ibelive in the freedom of choice. Isnt that what democracy is about?I belive in order to protect freedom we have to protect the right to choose. I don't want the government to dictate to me what I should and shouldn't do. I'd like to think I can make those choices myself. Isn't that what freedoms about?

So, personal freedom includes the freedom to murder your unborn baby?

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I think your opposition to same-sex marriage and your loyalty to a party who I disagree with on major moral issues to be ethically flawed. I don't think that makes you evil as a person. To be evil in my eyes, you have to commit actions so treasonous to a rational moral code that they overshadow any good you do. Honestly, I don't watch a lot of the mainstream media. I watch a lot of Fox News so I'm not familiar with what the media, outside of Fox News that is, says about conservatives.

I am a libertarian who is anti-tax, pro-life, for a separation of church and state that would make Jefferson frown, for same-sex marriage, for the death penalty, for abstinence-only education, skeptical of global warming, very antireligious, and doesn't believe in God. I would say that I'm not completely accepted by the conservative, liberal, or even some libertarian camps. It doesn't matter. You shouldn't be concerned about having people like you. You should be more concerned with being rational and within that rational mindset, being yourself.

Genetic_Code
Wow. Who the hell do you vote for? (or vote against which is what I do).
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#40 testfactor888
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I see nothing evil about you as long as you allow others to have different beliefs without badgering them
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#41 Meinhard1
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I don't think you're evil at all Also as long as your beliefs don't result in hateful behavior I don't even have a problem with them, even if they are quite different from my own.
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#42 THE_DRUGGIE
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I see nothing evil about you as long as you allow others to have different beliefs without badgering themtestfactor888

Then that means the debate threads we have here make the Mos Eisley Cantina look like the summer home of the Dalai Lama.

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[QUOTE="flash_drive"]How can one not believe in Abortion?Genetic_Code
I think he means he doesn't support abortion, which I totally get if you view the embryo as a living being.

I think the above poster was being a smartass, not that he didn't understand what the op meant by "I don't believe in abortions".
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So do you wanna be my friend?

RailroadBridge

Err, no.

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#45 CHOASXIII
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I dont like Obama, I dont believe in this global warming BULL,I dont believe in same sex marriage, I dont believe in excessive welfare, I dont believe in abortions, I believe in gun ownership,I am a Republican, I believe that there is a God

The general consenses by the media would state that I am a self centered egotistical bigot. Apparently I am a not tolerant of other races and religions, although I meet new people every day and have some friends that fall into these categories. I am the type of person the media is trying to degrade, however I will stand up against them and stand for my beliefs.

So do you wanna be my friend?

RailroadBridge

I agree with you. :P

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#46 jdc6305
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[QUOTE="jdc6305"]

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Maybe because gun ownership is in the Constitution, but killing your unborn baby isn't?

Metal_Mario99

I don't agree with abortion butwhat people do in ther're own lives is none of my buisness. Ibelive in the freedom of choice. Isnt that what democracy is about?I belive in order to protect freedom we have to protect the right to choose. I don't want the government to dictate to me what I should and shouldn't do. I'd like to think I can make those choices myself. Isn't that what freedoms about?

So, personal freedom includes the freedom to murder your unborn baby?

Yeah why not I don't care what other people do. It'snot my buisness. That person has to live with they're descion not me. If theres an after life or a god they'll have to answer for it not me. Doesn't the bible say judgement is my says the lord.

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#47 JustPlainLucas
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I was fine with everything until you said you were a Republican. :P Actually, beliefs do not make people evil. It's how they use their beliefs that determine that.
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#48 Strider_91
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You're not evil.
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#49 Metal_Mario99
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[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="jdc6305"]I don't agree with abortion butwhat people do in ther're own lives is none of my buisness. Ibelive in the freedom of choice. Isnt that what democracy is about?I belive in order to protect freedom we have to protect the right to choose. I don't want the government to dictate to me what I should and shouldn't do. I'd like to think I can make those choices myself. Isn't that what freedoms about?

jdc6305

So, personal freedom includes the freedom to murder your unborn baby?

Yeah why not I don't care what other people do. It'snot my buisness. That person has to live with they're descion not me. If theres an after life or a god they'll have to answer for it not me. Doesn't the bible say judgement is my says the lord.

So, there shouldn't be any laws at all, then? Everyone should be able to do whatever the hell they want without fear of consequence?

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#50 clayron
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You don't believe in a lot of things that have been proven to exist. Things like same sex marriage, excessive welfare, and abortions all definitely exist.