Zelda tp- still best wii game

with the obvious exception of mario galaxy , i still find that zelda tp is the best possble game. i have a thrill with brawl and mario kart and metroid, and mario galaxy is still awesome.

i think, tho, that zelda is still the deapest , longest, and most developed game on the wii. anyone else agree

:lol: Zelda TP isn't even in my top 10 Wii games.Haziqonfire

It has a tough time cracking the top 20

Even if we count it as a Gamecube game it's still outdone by WindWaker (plus a multitude of others)

TO HAZIQONFIRE- why wouldnt it be?!

TO ARKK_ANGEL- i have played okami, it is ok, but when i think of games for a system i dont consider ports as much as exclusives. okami was good, but i personally dont think as good as zelda tp.

TO HAZIQONFIRE- why wouldnt it be?!

ms555

He probably considers at least 10 Wii games to be more enjoyable than TP. :o

TO HAZIQONFIRE- why wouldnt it be?!

ms555

Because it disappointed me and I literally had to push myself to finish the game. The tipping point was when I fought Zant.

I enjoyed Wind Waker, MM, OoT a lot more than TP. TP is the worst zelda game I've played.

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TO HAZIQONFIRE- why wouldnt it be?!

Haziqonfire

Because it disappointed me and I literally had to push myself to finish the game. The tipping point was when I fought Zant.

I enjoyed Wind Waker, MM, OoT a lot more than TP.TP is the worst zelda game I've played.

Amen to that.

I couldn't even finish it, I'm just glad that Phantom Hourglass was released quickly to get the taste out of my mouth.

I even tried to go back to it 2 weeks ago and couldn't

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TO HAZIQONFIRE- why wouldnt it be?!

Jaysonguy

Because it disappointed me and I literally had to push myself to finish the game. The tipping point was when I fought Zant.

I enjoyed Wind Waker, MM, OoT a lot more than TP.TP is the worst zelda game I've played.

Amen to that.

I couldn't even finish it, I'm just glad that Phantom Hourglass was released quickly to get the taste out of my mouth.

I even tried to go back to it 2 weeks ago and couldn't

Yeah. I was bored and I wanted to replay it. I didn't get very far, I hate the waggle.

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TO HAZIQONFIRE- why wouldnt it be?!

Haziqonfire

Because it disappointed me and I literally had to push myself to finish the game. The tipping point was when I fought Zant.

I enjoyed Wind Waker, MM, OoT a lot more than TP. TP is the worst zelda game I've played.

I agree. It was still good but very disappointing.

TO HAZIQONFIRE- why wouldnt it be?!

TO ARKK_ANGEL- i have played okami, it is ok, but when i think of games for a system i dont consider ports as much as exclusives. okami was good, but i personally dont think as good as zelda tp.

ms555

You do realise TP was a port of the Gamecube version right?(Which is actually the one I prefer) Anyways Okami was one of the best games I ever played but, I didn't play the Wii version so, I can't comment on that.

nope okami sadly beats it, as much as I love zelda, it's not the best one, and is clearly a GC game

okami may have been a ps2 game, and ported, but it was better porting, and far better fight mechanics

but even so, okami isn't the best wii game either, galaxy is, by far. then metroid prime 3, then okami

EDIT: actually there's games between prime 3 and okami

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TO HAZIQONFIRE- why wouldnt it be?!

Jaysonguy

Because it disappointed me and I literally had to push myself to finish the game. The tipping point was when I fought Zant.

I enjoyed Wind Waker, MM, OoT a lot more than TP.TP is the worst zelda game I've played.

Amen to that.

I couldn't even finish it, I'm just glad that Phantom Hourglass was released quickly to get the taste out of my mouth.

I even tried to go back to it 2 weeks ago and couldn't

I bought it, played it for 10 hours, then bought another game. RE4. Played RE4, then Mario Kart, then God of War II, then Final Fantasy X and after 4 months came back to Twilight Princess only to beat the game 2 months later. So it took me about 7-8 months to complete because TP didn't engage me too much.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]:lol: Zelda TP isn't even in my top 10 Wii games.Jaysonguy

It has a tough time cracking the top 20

Even if we count it as a Gamecube game it's still outdone by WindWaker (plus a multitude of others)

My thoughts exactly. Now that you brought up WW I might go play that again. :P

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]:lol: Zelda TP isn't even in my top 10 Wii games.Jaysonguy

It has a tough time cracking the top 20

Even if we count it as a Gamecube game it's still outdone by WindWaker (plus a multitude of others)

What games are you guys playing? Some secret Wii games no one else has heard of?

TP outclasses the Windwaker in so many ways. The Windwaker was unfinished, had less than half the dungeons in TP and had what should've been an unnecessary fetch quest that was poorly designed (drop the grappling hook in the water? yay).

Despite my "beef" with the Windwaker, I loved the game. But TP was so much more.

Each dungeon was flawlessly designed. The story telling actually had some effort put into it. The new items were great including the most epic boss battle ever via the spinning top.

Plus I got upwards of 45-50 hours out of it. How could someone not like this game?

No voice acting, no orchestrated music. Those are gripes about this game. But this was by far the most developed in terms of gameplay, great new elements such as finishing moves and other sequences (snowboarding?)

Finally, the Wiimote > then any other control scheme.

So if you two could enlighten me, why you think the TP doesn't belong in the top 10 wii games, or even the top 20.

Give me 10 wii games you'd put ahead of the masterpiece that is TP. I'll wait.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]:lol: Zelda TP isn't even in my top 10 Wii games.sonic_spark

It has a tough time cracking the top 20

Even if we count it as a Gamecube game it's still outdone by WindWaker (plus a multitude of others)

What games are you guys playing? Some secret Wii games no one else has heard of?

TP outclasses the Windwaker in so many ways. The Windwaker was unfinished, had less than half the dungeons in TP and had what should've been an unnecessary fetch quest that was poorly designed (drop the grappling hook in the water? yay).

Despite my "beef" with the Windwaker, I loved the game. But TP was so much more.

Each dungeon was flawlessly designed. The story telling actually had some effort put into it. The new items were great including the most epic boss battle ever via the spinning top.

Plus I got upwards of 45-50 hours out of it. How could someone not like this game?

No voice acting, no orchestrated music. Those are gripes about this game. But this was by far the most developed in terms of gameplay, great new elements such as finishing moves and other sequences (snowboarding?)

Finally, the Wiimote > then any other control scheme.

So if you two could enlighten me, why you think the TP doesn't belong in the top 10 wii games, or even the top 20.

Give me 10 wii games you'd put ahead of the masterpiece that is TP. I'll wait.

A game that tries new ideas with success like Wind Waker will be prefered over Twilight Princess by many people. Get used to that.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]:lol: Zelda TP isn't even in my top 10 Wii games.Wintry_Flutist

It has a tough time cracking the top 20

Even if we count it as a Gamecube game it's still outdone by WindWaker (plus a multitude of others)

What games are you guys playing? Some secret Wii games no one else has heard of?

TP outclasses the Windwaker in so many ways. The Windwaker was unfinished, had less than half the dungeons in TP and had what should've been an unnecessary fetch quest that was poorly designed (drop the grappling hook in the water? yay).

Despite my "beef" with the Windwaker, I loved the game. But TP was so much more.

Each dungeon was flawlessly designed. The story telling actually had some effort put into it. The new items were great including the most epic boss battle ever via the spinning top.

Plus I got upwards of 45-50 hours out of it. How could someone not like this game?

No voice acting, no orchestrated music. Those are gripes about this game. But this was by far the most developed in terms of gameplay, great new elements such as finishing moves and other sequences (snowboarding?)

Finally, the Wiimote > then any other control scheme.

So if you two could enlighten me, why you think the TP doesn't belong in the top 10 wii games, or even the top 20.

Give me 10 wii games you'd put ahead of the masterpiece that is TP. I'll wait.

A game that tries new ideas with success like Wind Waker will be prefered over Twilight Princess by many people. Get used to that.

That is completely understandable. But they speak as if TP is shovelware and Windwaker was the second coming. I hope to god there's a level of sarcasm somewhere in those posts.

I refuse to accept TP being considered less of a game in comparison to Rayman or Warioware. It's just not going to happen.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]:lol: Zelda TP isn't even in my top 10 Wii games.sonic_spark

It has a tough time cracking the top 20

Even if we count it as a Gamecube game it's still outdone by WindWaker (plus a multitude of others)

What games are you guys playing? Some secret Wii games no one else has heard of?

TP outclasses the Windwaker in so many ways. The Windwaker was unfinished, had less than half the dungeons in TP and had what should've been an unnecessary fetch quest that was poorly designed (drop the grappling hook in the water? yay).

Each dungeon was flawlessly designed. The story telling actually had some effort put into it. The new items were great including the most epic boss battle ever via the spinning top.

Plus I got upwards of 45-50 hours out of it. How could someone not like this game?

No voice acting, no orchestrated music. Those are gripes about this game. But this was by far the most developed in terms of gameplay, great new elements such as finishing moves and other sequences (snowboarding?)

How was Wind Waker unfinished? I played it and seemed pretty finished to me. And as stated before many times across these boards, quanity =/= quality. Who cares if TP has more dungeons than WW? The dungeons in WW were a lot more fun to play than the dungeons in TP. The dungeons in TP felt uninspired to me (except for the snow temple. That one I enjoyed),

And if I remember correctly, TP pretty much had it's own fetch quest too with the whole getting that girl's memory back (forgot her name. Shows how memorable the TP characters are). And it was a pretty boring quest too. At least you had to find the triforce maps to find out where to get the pieces in the first place. And by the late in the game, sailing shouldn't even be an issue and pulling up all the triforce pieces should take barely 10 minutes.

While I do agree that some of the new items were cool, (ball and chain for the win) they were all useless as soon as you left the dungeon where you got them. All except for the clawshoot which they actually used more then they should have and there was no reason what so ever that you should have gotten another one.

You consider snowboarding to be a great new element added to the game? It takes barely two minutes to get through the course and there's no reason to play it again after you get the heart piece. TP didn't really bring that many new and exciting ideas to the whole Zelda formula.

I'm not saying TP is a terrible game, it's just not that good when compared to other games in general.

How was Wind Waker unfinished?

staindcoldlp

Dungeons were canned, specially the one where you would have gotten Nayru's pearl and the ones for the Triforce pieces. Just that would have leaded to more use of "co op dungeons" and such concepts that weren't explored to the fullest.

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How was Wind Waker unfinished?

Wintry_Flutist

Dungeons were canned, specially the one where you would have gotten Nayru's pearl and the ones for the Triforce pieces. Just that would have leaded to more use of "co op dungeons" and such concepts that weren't explored to the fullest.

Agreed.

I dont' want anyone to get me wrong here, I loved every second of Windwaker. But, there was so much left to the imagination because it was unfinished.

And Tp's dungeons were all quality. I felt that for the first time in any Zelda, I actually had to use each item in each dungeon, at least once.

And if i'm not mistaken the fetch quest in TP was optional? And even if it wasn't, it was far less tedious to get it over with than finding the sea charts, then finding the triforce pieces.

I don't want to have a WW vs. TP debate, because each game was great in my opinion and obviously people are going to like different things. A good majority of Zelda fans wanted a classic OoT game, they got it and complained. They wanted that same game and got WW, got it, and complained. Zelda fans are the worst when it comes to appreciating their games.

My point though is that TP at the least stands shoulder to shoulder with its predecessors. But that's not the debate, the debate is whether it belongs amongst the elite Wii games. And at the very least in my opinion, it would be blasphemy not to consider it amongst the best titles this console has to offer.

To all those saying at TP isn't in the top 10 or 20 Wii games, please list 10 or 20 games better than it.

I loved Wind Waker. It had a great art style and atmosphere but overall I like TP quite a bit better.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]:lol: Zelda TP isn't even in my top 10 Wii games.sonic_spark

It has a tough time cracking the top 20

Even if we count it as a Gamecube game it's still outdone by WindWaker (plus a multitude of others)

What games are you guys playing? Some secret Wii games no one else has heard of?

TP outclasses the Windwaker in so many ways. The Windwaker was unfinished, had less than half the dungeons in TP and had what should've been an unnecessary fetch quest that was poorly designed (drop the grappling hook in the water? yay).

Despite my "beef" with the Windwaker, I loved the game. But TP was so much more.

Each dungeon was flawlessly designed. The story telling actually had some effort put into it. The new items were great including the most epic boss battle ever via the spinning top.

Plus I got upwards of 45-50 hours out of it. How could someone not like this game?

No voice acting, no orchestrated music. Those are gripes about this game. But this was by far the most developed in terms of gameplay, great new elements such as finishing moves and other sequences (snowboarding?)

Finally, the Wiimote > then any other control scheme.

So if you two could enlighten me, why you think the TP doesn't belong in the top 10 wii games, or even the top 20.

Give me 10 wii games you'd put ahead of the masterpiece that is TP. I'll wait.

OW IN THE HELL DID U GET 45-50 HOURS OUT OF THAT GAME????????????? Most zelda games take me about 20 hours but TP was soooo easy I beat it in 12!!!!!

I got more fun out of Dragon Ball Z budokai tenkaichi 3 than that!!!

I'm sorry for my ranting, I didn't realize u probably went to get all the bugs/poes/HPs. But TP is probably 4th out of 7 for me

1) DBZ BT3

2)Brawl

3)No More Heroes

4)TP

5)wii play

6)wii sports

7)Elebits

OW IN THE HELL DID U GET 45-50 HOURS OUT OF THAT GAME????????????? Most zelda games take me about 20 hours but TP was soooo easy I beat it in 12!!!!!

I got more fun out of Dragon Ball Z budokai tenkaichi 3 than that!!!

poolwatcher

No walkthrough, completing 100%, no rushing, and you're in for tens of hours of gameplay. For me, it took around 72-76 hours if I recall correctly.

I refuse to accept TP being considered less of a game in comparison to Rayman or Warioware. It's just not going to happen.sonic_spark

When did Jayson or I ever say Rayman or WarioWare are better games?

Also, we never called it shovelware. Though, it's a game that if I never played it, I wouldn't care. It was a bad zelda game.

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OW IN THE HELL DID U GET 45-50 HOURS OUT OF THAT GAME????????????? Most zelda games take me about 20 hours but TP was soooo easy I beat it in 12!!!!!

I got more fun out of Dragon Ball Z budokai tenkaichi 3 than that!!!

Wintry_Flutist

No walkthrough, completing 100%, no rushing, and you're in for tens of hours of gameplay. For me, it took around 72-76 hours if I recall correctly.

To poolwatcher: How the **** did you complete it in 12 hrs? Did you follow a walkthrough word for word? Twilight Princess took me 50 hours, and I didn't even collect all of the golden bugs. I only referred to a walkthrough as a last resort, after being totally stumped for upwards of two hours.

Topic: I don't think TP is the best game on the Wii, but it was the best launch title. I'd rank it #4 after SMG, SSBB, and MP3.

i gave up half way through the game

Dungeons make me think too hard

To all those saying at TP isn't in the top 10 or 20 Wii games, please list 10 or 20 games better than it.

I loved Wind Waker. It had a great art style and atmosphere but overall I like TP quite a bit better.

Rocky32189

-SSBB
-SMG
-Boom Blox
-RE4
-Okami
-Zack and Wiki
-Mario Kart Wii
-No More Heroes
-Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
-Battalion Wars 2

If given the chance, I'd play all those titles before I'd play TP.

I'm not alone on this either. Just to give you an example, 3/4 people (me and my friends) didn't finish the game. I'm the only one out of my friends that finished it.

This doesn't mean its a bad game, just saying, people around me generally feel the same.