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#1 Posted by habaker91 (78 posts) -
will the $20 component cables solve the problem?
#2 Posted by meimnobody (5565 posts) -
Ah no. Read your tv manual. All hdtvs lag when displaying video games. HDTVs aren't fit for old button press games. Funny how the HDTV advocates neglect to mention the lag.
#3 Posted by meimnobody (5565 posts) -

http://hdtvlag.googlepages.com/home Details more. As does http://gear.ign.com/articles/712/712352p1.html

The lag can make some games unplayable.

#4 Posted by BET8390 (4194 posts) -
Ah no. Read your tv manual. All hdtvs lag when displaying video games. HDTVs aren't fit for old button press games. Funny how the HDTV advocates neglect to mention the lag. meimnobody
typical response time is 8 ms which is un noticeable, My TV has a 4ms and its pretty good.
#5 Posted by Cowmanik (506 posts) -
Well not all HDTV's have this problem. I played Guitar Hero II on a 52" plasma HDTV and I didn't have any problems with delay at all.
#6 Posted by Lord_Tulak_Hord (210 posts) -
response time of your hdtv should be 16 ms or less... 8 ms and less is better.
#7 Posted by Warfust (3045 posts) -
I haven't had an issues with mine, but I have heard other people have issues.
#8 Posted by Jaysonguy (38038 posts) -

The only problem you have is that you don't have the component cables.

Once you get them the problem will be gone. The problem is that the lowest an HD set will understand on it's own is 480p but you can't get that with the cables that come with the Wii. Once you get the component cables and set the Wii to 480p the problem will be solved.

Also grab the Nintendo brand for 29.95, don't skimp on your connections.

#9 Posted by furtherfan (3699 posts) -
no, the lag is either caused by your screens or the game... i think it's your screen..
#10 Posted by 205047247090237824329930235794 (741 posts) -
Jaysonguy is right here. HDTVs that lag like this do so because of the time it takes them to "upconvert" a non-HD signal (480i from say an S-Video cable) to the TV's native HD resolution.

If you switch to component video cables and be sure to enable progressive scan, the Wii's output will then be 480p. In effect the Wii will be taking on some of the image processing work before sending it to the TV.

It is also true that not all TVs have this problem. While one of the articles meimnobody linked to above mentioned a specific Samsung TV when describing the problem, my later model Samsung doesn't suffer from this. So while a year ago this was a big deal, it seems that at least some manufacturers have gotten the hint about HD gaming and made improvements in their TVs.
#11 Posted by Shuramon (5619 posts) -
most HDTV's lag. and 8 or 16 ms is alot when ssb runs at 60 fps, and playing competitively requires everything within 2 or 3 frames. plus if online happens that will make the lag worse. just don't use an HDTV. not sure if component wires will fix it.
#12 Posted by jakefolk (77 posts) -
Do you have the wii connected directly to the TV or is it connected to a dvd player or something because if it isnt connected directly to the tv that can make it lag sometimes.
#13 Posted by habaker91 (78 posts) -

thanks...but i did forget to mention that i have a samsung DLP, which is supposed to be the worst of the worst

#14 Posted by 205047247090237824329930235794 (741 posts) -

most HDTV's lag. and 8 or 16 ms is alot when ssb runs at 60 fps, and playing competitively requires everything within 2 or 3 frames. plus if online happens that will make the lag worse. just don't use an HDTV. not sure if component wires will fix it.Shuramon


That's all well and good if you're playing competitively; I don't pretend to be familiar with the requirements. I'll tell you what though, I haven't found my own reactions delayed since switching from a CRT television to an LCD HDTV with an 8ms response time. But perhaps when you played on an HDTV as *slow* as mine, you noticed the difference. Do you still use CRT displays for both your console and computer gaming?

As far as the *lag* in any flat panel display goes... anything under 20ms is imperceptible to most people. Under 15ms... no one can tell the difference. My first computer LCD was 12ms, and I've since gone through an 8ms and now I have a 4ms. I can't tell the difference between the fastest and slowest of these three. Human eyesight and reaction time just isn't that good.
#15 Posted by Garygok (967 posts) -
Great information here as I just brought my Wii to a friends house with an HDTV and noticed this big time. It also rendered some games unplayable. Was wondering what caused this now I know. Im jsut glad It is possible to get an HDTV without this problem. i'm also gonna buy some component cables and see if that fixes it as Jasonguy suggests. My buddy has a Sharp Aquos so watch out for that one if you are looking to buy for a Wii.
#16 Posted by RyanWare (12113 posts) -
Yes component cables will help if you run it in 480p. But depending on your HDTV, you may still experience some lag.
#17 Posted by Brawl_Guy (13 posts) -
Which Component Cables would be good for an 32'' LG HDTV(720p) LCD TV?
#18 Posted by Flash_Virus (92 posts) -

Component cables for the Wii fixed mine perfectly.

Also grab the Nintendo brand for 29.95, don't skimp on your connections.

I think they're all the same. Mine works great.

#19 Posted by Brawl_Guy (13 posts) -
:DI got the Nintendo brand component cable for 40$(dunno why it's at 40$). The lag is gone(8)), and it looks so much clearer!!!!!:lol:
#20 Posted by flutenote (1 posts) -
Well not all HDTV's have this problem. I played Guitar Hero II on a 52" plasma HDTV and I didn't have any problems with delay at all.Cowmanik
Guitar Hero has a delay option to fix it so the game response is altered in accordance with the TV's lag. At least there is in Guitar Hero III and Aerosmith.
#22 Posted by GameboyTroy (2541 posts) -

Which genre does that kind of lag affects the most.

#23 Posted by roboccs (7399 posts) -

Which genre does that kind of lag affects the most.

GameboyTroy

When I connected my wii to my 42' Toshiba and tried to play Mike Tyson's Punch-Out on the VC, that split second ruined me. I thought I lost my touch and I used to DOMINATE that game. Timing is everything. When I connected it back on an older SD TV I was back to dominance.

#24 Posted by GatorPeach (1 posts) -
Got the stinkin component cables, didn't work.
#25 Posted by ActionRemix (5640 posts) -
Component cables will reduce the lag, yes.
#26 Posted by LaytonsCat (3652 posts) -

I have no lag with my Wii or PS3 on my 50" plasma