I mean they made Donkey Kong (although I didn't like the N64 version).
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rare as in rareware well if it is rareware YES!!! i still remember the banjo kazooie/ tooie stop n swop thing it never did happen
why posting the same thread on 2 forums? anyways... if you mean "buy again", then nah. i dont miss rare that much. wouldnt mind if they were still here, but *looks at what rare's been doing at MS* not really impressive. *copies to post on the other thread*BrunoBRS
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rare did some really good things fornintendo (conker bad fur day FTW) but for microsoft the only succesful thing they've done its Viva Piñata
I could be wrong here, but I doubt that Nintendo even "sold" Rare. Rare was a third-party company who got in tight enough with Nintendo to gain access to one of their first-party titles. Although there may or may not have been a binding contract between the two companies, I'm 95% positive that Nintendo themselves did not have any say in what direction Rare went. Microsoft made Rare an offer, and Rare accepted.
Crash Man! Oh, sorry. Got distracted. :PI could be wrong here, but I doubt that Nintendo even "sold" Rare. Rare was a third-party company who got in tight enough with Nintendo to gain access to one of their first-party titles. Although there may or may not have been a binding contract between the two companies, I'm 95% positive that Nintendo themselves did not have any say in what direction Rare went. Microsoft made Rare an offer, and Rare accepted.
CrashMan09
[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]why posting the same thread on 2 forums? anyways... if you mean "buy again", then nah. i dont miss rare that much. wouldnt mind if they were still here, but *looks at what rare's been doing at MS* not really impressive. *copies to post on the other thread*smurf_killer
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rare did some really good things fornintendo (conker bad fur day FTW) but for microsoft the only succesful thing they've done its Viva Piñata
Actually, Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts was an absolutely phenomenal game, and Perfect Dark Zero was good as well and the Perfect Dark XBLA remake also looks good. I still think Rare would be better with Ninty though :/[QUOTE="smurf_killer"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]why posting the same thread on 2 forums? anyways... if you mean "buy again", then nah. i dont miss rare that much. wouldnt mind if they were still here, but *looks at what rare's been doing at MS* not really impressive. *copies to post on the other thread*m1k3m
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rare did some really good things fornintendo (conker bad fur day FTW) but for microsoft the only succesful thing they've done its Viva Piñata
Actually, Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts was an absolutely phenomenal game, and Perfect Dark Zero was good as well and the Perfect Dark XBLA remake also looks good. I still think Rare would be better with Ninty though :/ Banjo Kazooie N&B is good on it's own merits, but as a Banjo game it felt like getting the middle finger from Rare after waiting 8 years for a proper successor to Banjo Tooie.I could be wrong here, but I doubt that Nintendo even "sold" Rare.
CrashMan09
Rareware was never owned by Nintendo, as the latter once owned 49% of the company's stocks, not a majority needed for ownership. It was a developer that had an exclusive contract with Nintendo to develop games.
hmm... no. rare was a second party working for nintendo, and now is a second party that works for microsoft but can publish handheld titles on non-microsoft platforms for some bizarre reason.I could be wrong here, but I doubt that Nintendo even "sold" Rare. Rare was a third-party company who got in tight enough with Nintendo to gain access to one of their first-party titles. Although there may or may not have been a binding contract between the two companies, I'm 95% positive that Nintendo themselves did not have any say in what direction Rare went. Microsoft made Rare an offer, and Rare accepted.
CrashMan09
[QUOTE="CrashMan09"]hmm... no. rare was a second party working for nintendo, and now is a second party that works for microsoft but can publish handheld titles on non-microsoft platforms for some bizarre reason.I could be wrong here, but I doubt that Nintendo even "sold" Rare. Rare was a third-party company who got in tight enough with Nintendo to gain access to one of their first-party titles. Although there may or may not have been a binding contract between the two companies, I'm 95% positive that Nintendo themselves did not have any say in what direction Rare went. Microsoft made Rare an offer, and Rare accepted.
BrunoBRS
You're gonna have to elaborate a bit more to illustrate how this was different from what I said. ;)
hmm... no. rare was a second party working for nintendo, and now is a second party that works for microsoft but can publish handheld titles on non-microsoft platforms for some bizarre reason.[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="CrashMan09"]
I could be wrong here, but I doubt that Nintendo even "sold" Rare. Rare was a third-party company who got in tight enough with Nintendo to gain access to one of their first-party titles. Although there may or may not have been a binding contract between the two companies, I'm 95% positive that Nintendo themselves did not have any say in what direction Rare went. Microsoft made Rare an offer, and Rare accepted.
CrashMan09
You're gonna have to elaborate a bit more to illustrate how this was different from what I said. ;)
you said rare was a third party, i corrected saying it was a second party (a small studio owned by a major first party, like retro and camelot). nintendo chose to sell rare to microsoft. rare themselves werent involved in the discussion.First of all, Rare had been around for a long time before they started developing games for the NES. That's where the "third party" thing comes in. In fact, it was only for a very brief period that Rare could even be considered a "2nd-party" developer; when they entered with Nintendo intoan exclusive publishing agreement for the N64 and GameCube.
[QUOTE="CrashMan09"]hmm... no. rare was a second party working for nintendo, and now is a second party that works for microsoft but can publish handheld titles on non-microsoft platforms for some bizarre reason.I could be wrong here, but I doubt that Nintendo even "sold" Rare. Rare was a third-party company who got in tight enough with Nintendo to gain access to one of their first-party titles. Although there may or may not have been a binding contract between the two companies, I'm 95% positive that Nintendo themselves did not have any say in what direction Rare went. Microsoft made Rare an offer, and Rare accepted.
BrunoBRS
I think the reason for that is to help Nintendo beat Sony in the handheld market.
I think when Rare was bought by Microsoft many of the developers left to join Free Radical? (the guys who made Timesplitters which is why that series rocked so much), and that's why I think Rare's most recent efforts aren't as amazing as the SNES/N64 days.
Plus I'm pretty sure Nintendo never owned Rare. Rare was just a developer that made bank on the N64 is all.
Nintendo didn't own Rare, they just made games for them from NES up until the early days of GC.
Without a doubt, some of the best games for the systems.
Microsoft bought Rare and originally I was disappointed but seeing as one of the founders of the company has left and seeing the quality of games that they have been releasing, I guess now I'm just sad.
Nintendo and Rare made some truly phenomenal games. Its a shame that such a great company has dwindled since their best times.
If rare got back to the calibre of some of the games they made in their early years, I'd buy whatever system they made the games for.
why posting the same thread on 2 forums? anyways... BrunoBRS
It gets ansewers from diffrent people. I do it all of the time.
hmm... no. rare was a second party working for nintendo, and now is a second party that works for microsoft but can publish handheld titles on non-microsoft platforms for some bizarre reason.[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="CrashMan09"]
I could be wrong here, but I doubt that Nintendo even "sold" Rare. Rare was a third-party company who got in tight enough with Nintendo to gain access to one of their first-party titles. Although there may or may not have been a binding contract between the two companies, I'm 95% positive that Nintendo themselves did not have any say in what direction Rare went. Microsoft made Rare an offer, and Rare accepted.
Mr_Nordquist
I think the reason for that is to help Nintendo beat Sony in the handheld market.
I think when Rare was bought by Microsoft many of the developers left to join Free Radical? (the guys who made Timesplitters which is why that series rocked so much), and that's why I think Rare's most recent efforts aren't as amazing as the SNES/N64 days.
Plus I'm pretty sure Nintendo never owned Rare. Rare was just a developer that made bank on the N64 is all.
joined free radical? didnt know that, but timesplitters sure seems very "rare-ish", with all those bizarre choices for characters on the multiplayer :lol: zombie monkey FTW! as for the handheld thing, i think it was something like "we dont mind, since we still dont have a handheld of our own", because why would microsoft help nintendo defeat sony? (not that nintendo needs any help on the handheld market...)*ignores whoever still thinks rare was a third party* BrunoBRS
What exactly makes you think otherwise? Rare is a third-party company. The period during which they can actually be considered "2nd party" is very brief.
I don't miss them on the handhelds but I do miss them on my Wii.
JLF1
When Nintendo lost them to MS they also lost a huge quality developer that had talent in genres that Nintendo has yet to recover from.
Rare's talent left the company before Nintendo sold them to Microsoft. They had left to form Free Radical as they were fed up developing games for inferior hardware. All Nintendo really lost when they sold Rare was a few game titles, such as Perfect Dark and we all know how much the sequel to that game stunk.
Last I checked, Nintendo never owned Rare.siLVURcrossNintendo owned 49% of Rareware and they refused to buy the other 51% of Rareware because when Nintendo refused Rareware wasn't doing to good so Rare went to Microsoft and sold their 51% to Microsoft and Nintendo was forced to sell their 49%.
[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]why posting the same thread on 2 forums? anyways... Burning-Sludge
It gets ansewers from diffrent people. I do it all of the time.
Thanks for that. Glad it made sense to someone. And thanks for keeping this topic alive guys.Peh, Rare hasn't made anything too impressive in what must be a decade. People still love them though. Kind of like MJ. Oops, too soon?
No. Rare hasn't made jack worth playing since Nintendo sold them so it looks like the big N ditched Rare right before they went to sh*t The one thing Nintendo should regret is not trying to buy the rights to Banjo Kazooie off Rare before letting them go, especially since Rare can't even seem to make a good Banjo game anymore.Envoy_of_WolvesThis^^ But ya i agree, i wish Rare would have just made good games instead of turning crappy. I'm sad Banjo is gone but Rare was doing nothing.
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