Dat Apple Logo Yo! iPad 3 Talk

I'd rather have an ultrabook (Lenovo u300) or macbook air. Almost double the price (if you spring for an i5) for many, many times the usefulness in a slightly heftier package.

Such a sexy screen though.Guppy507

I used to think like that, and obviously it's a YMMV thing, but I've found my netbook to be pretty useless day-to-day compared to the combination of my desktop (that much more powerful and ergonomic) and smartphone (despite the size and ergonomics issues, that much more convenient for light-duty use). The netbook is still an aboslute road-warrior beast compared to any tablet (full-fat productivity software, 640GB HDD for media, quality keyboard, 7-9+ hours of battery), but it's just heavy enough and just slow enough and just awkward enough to use on-the-go that I find I need a good reason to bother with it, whereas with a tablet you're inclined to always have it with you (and for most people, a bluetooth keyboard+iWork/Google Docs is going to be fine for productivity).

Obviously an i3/i5+SSD-equipped ultrabook/MBA is going to be easier to live with day-to-day than my slower HP dm1, but if you're going to drop $1000+ on computing I think the average person is going to be much happier with an iPad+travel keyboard or Transformer and a nice budget desktop.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]So why would you be disappointed...?

Aljosa23

I like tech and all that just as much as the next man but the iPad 3 or just "iPad" seems fine to me. What exactly were you expecting you? Disappointment comes from one's expectations so I'm generally curious.

No, I would say I am a "tech enthusiast" who is well knowledged in a variety of technical fields relating to the computer and electonics industry.Stevo_the_gamer

Or, more succinctly...*

*Is obvious joke, before someone gets all self-rightous with the "OMG calling someone else a nerd on a gaming forum" defence.

[QUOTE="Guppy507"]I'd rather have an ultrabook (Lenovo u300) or macbook air. Almost double the price (if you spring for an i5) for many, many times the usefulness in a slightly heftier package.

Such a sexy screen though.Slow_Show

I used to think like that, and obviously it's a YMMV thing, but I've found my netbook to be pretty useless day-to-day compared to the combination of my desktop (that much more powerful and ergonomic) and smartphone (despite the size and ergonomics issues, that much more convenient for light-duty use). The netbook is still an aboslute road-warrior beast compared to any tablet (full-fat productivity software, 640GB HDD for media, quality keyboard, 7-9+ hours of battery), but it's just heavy enough and just slow enough and just awkward enough to use on-the-go that I find I need a good reason to bother with it, whereas with a tablet you're inclined to always have it with you (and for most people, a bluetooth keyboard+iWork/Google Docs is going to be fine for productivity).

Obviously an i3/i5+SSD-equipped ultrabook/MBA is going to be easier to live with day-to-day than my slower HP dm1, but if you're going to drop $1000+ on computing I think the average person is going to be much happier with an iPad+travel keyboard or Transformer and a nice budget desktop.

I paid $269 for my netbook and while it definitely has its issues (very occasional freezing, general netbook sluggishness), I'm very, very happy with it for day to day usage during class and keeping me entertained on breaks. That's the one deterrent I have to getting an iPad. My netbook does everything I want an iPad for so I can't really see myself upgrading right now. 

I used to think like that, and obviously it's a YMMV thing, but I've found my netbook to be pretty useless day-to-day compared to the combination of my desktop (that much more powerful and ergonomic) and smartphone (despite the size and ergonomics issues, that much more convenient for light-duty use). The netbook is still an aboslute road-warrior beast compared to any tablet (full-fat productivity software, 640GB HDD for media, quality keyboard, 7-9+ hours of battery), but it's just heavy enough and just slow enough and just awkward enough to use on-the-go that I find I need a good reason to bother with it, whereas with a tablet you're inclined to always have it with you (and for most people, a bluetooth keyboard+iWork/Google Docs is going to be fine for productivity).

Obviously an i3/i5+SSD-equipped ultrabook/MBA is going to be easier to live with day-to-day than my slower HP dm1, but if you're going to drop $1000+ on computing I think the average person is going to be much happier with an iPad+travel keyboard or Transformer and a nice budget desktop.

Slow_Show

I guess that's a fair point.  I'm coming from the perspective of someone who's needs aren't filled by a tablet and already has a smart phone.

I need full laptop capabilities because of the whole computer science student thing.  I'm sure it's fine for kids that just want to type notes and look at facebook, but I need to run visual studio/eclipse/whatever else for homework assignments.  I'd rather not rely solely on the computer labs at school and my desktop in my dorm room.

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[QUOTE="110million"]No matter how nice it is though, without being built for a proper controller, most games won't play so well. :o110million

You can currently sync a PS3 controller, a Wii mote, or an OnLive controller with the device.

Let me bold the words you so easily missed. It isn't like touch can be mapped to controller functions. How many games are built to work well with controllers? How many of them are light on touch enough? I will gladly admit ignorance on the subject, but somehow I doubt they've been making games with controllers in mind this whole time.

Tablet supporters: You can get the same experience with a phone except....you can actually carry it in your pocket. Now if you want something for college laptops are still better and cost less than $500.. But hey it's not my money so if you guys want to waste your money on an overpriced pos go ahead.kage_53

I'd just like to point out that 500 dollars is gonna get you a really crappy laptop.  It'll be a big, heavy 15 inch laptop with horrible battery life.  I've been down that road twice now.  First with Dell, then with Asus. Don't cheap out on something you're gonna use on a daily basis.  I'm not saying go spend 1200 dollars on a macbook either, but you get the point.

I bought my sister the dell vostro 3750 for her college classes. It has 17 inch screen and about 6-7 hour battery life. Even came with a webcam. Costs about $600 after taxes. It weighs about 6 pounds.

/shrug.

I have an acer I got for about $600 after taxes as well, though it's 15.6" i3-350 2.26 ghz, 4 threads(was only one with this CPU under $800 at the time), 4 gb DD3, 500gb HDD, I used it at school, and now I use it at work. I've taken it with me on trips and used it at a hotel a number of times as well. It's about 6 hours with normal use of battery life, that being no games/movies. Webcam included, wide enough to have a numpad. 

I love this laptop, I spent about an hour a day, for a week, comparing a number of sites, stores and prices, this was the only laptop that met all my requirements and was in my price range. It is excellent for older games and coding, 15.6" good enough anyways, another 1-1.5" won't make a huge difference. 

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="jechtshot78"]

You can currently sync a PS3 controller, a Wii mote, or an OnLive controller with the device.

Cherokee_Jack

Let me bold the words you so easily missed. It isn't like touch can be mapped to controller functions. How many games are built to work well with controllers? How many of them are light on touch enough? I will gladly admit ignorance on the subject, but somehow I doubt they've been making games with controllers in mind this whole time.

I would. I do, actually.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] And really, who's going to use a controller with a tablet? The option to use a controller is irrelevant if it doesn't make sense to do so in reality.jechtshot78

I would. I do, actually.

How many games work well with them? I am ignorant on this subject, as I have stated. :P

Also, like I already said, if people can put an iPad on a stand to watch movies or tv shows, as kind of having it in your lap when you don't need to interact with it is kind of meh, setting it up like that and using a controller on it seems completely legit too.  

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]And really, who's going to use a controller with a tablet? The option to use a controller is irrelevant if it doesn't make sense to do so in reality.110million

I would. I do, actually.

How many games work well with them? I am ignorant on this subject, as I have stated. :P

Also, like I already said, if people can put an iPad on a stand to watch movies or tv shows, as kind of having it in your lap when you don't need to interact with it is kind of meh, setting it up like that and using a controller on it seems completely legit too.

Strictly speaking, I cannot talk about this on gamespot.

Strictly speaking, I cannot talk about this on gamespot.

jechtshot78

Ah, well I was speaking from actual iPad games.  

Playing iPad games with a controller sounds stupid as f*ck. Chances are you'd be at home playing that in which case you could just play a console instead or even a handheld.

If you're playing it on the go like on a bus, you're the ultimate douche.

Playing iPad games with a controller sounds stupid as f*ck. Chances are you'd be at home playing that in which case you could just play a console instead or even a handheld.

If you're playing it on the go like on a bus, you're the ultimate douche.

Aljosa23

Playing iPad games with a controller sounds stupid as f*ck. Chances are you'd be at home playing that in which case you could just play a console instead or even a handheld.

If you're playing it on the go like on a bus, you're the ultimate douche.

Aljosa23

Would be fine in lots of situations, I'd consider bus and train to be more like phone territory anyway. The iPad screen is still much higher quality and resolution than like handhelds, and I mean, everyone knows I dislike apple, and love dat Vita, but I don't see anything wrong with going from some web browsing on an iPad to propping it up into a stand and whipping out a controller. 

I've always prefered console gaming to handheld gaming anyways, and this is at least an inbetween closer to consoles. 

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Playing iPad games with a controller sounds stupid as f*ck. Chances are you'd be at home playing that in which case you could just play a console instead or even a handheld.

If you're playing it on the go like on a bus, you're the ultimate douche.

jechtshot78

You're not invited to my house anymore, Jecht!

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Playing iPad games with a controller sounds stupid as f*ck. Chances are you'd be at home playing that in which case you could just play a console instead or even a handheld.

If you're playing it on the go like on a bus, you're the ultimate douche.

110million

Would be fine in lots of situations, I'd consider bus and train to be more like phone territory anyway. The iPad screen is still much higher quality and resolution than like handhelds, and I mean, everyone knows I dislike apple, and love dat Vita, but I don't see anything wrong with going from some web browsing on an iPad to propping it up into a stand and whipping out a controller.

I've always prefered console gaming to handheld gaming anyways, and this is at least an inbetween closer to consoles.

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Playing iPad games with a controller sounds stupid as f*ck. Chances are you'd be at home playing that in which case you could just play a console instead or even a handheld.

If you're playing it on the go like on a bus, you're the ultimate douche.

Aljosa23

You're not invited to my house anymore, Jecht!

I often take my iPad when I go to my in-law's house.

I shouldn't have to say any more.

Also, Bathroom gaming.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"] Maybe you aren't at "your" home?jechtshot78

You're not invited to my house anymore, Jecht!

I often take my iPad when I go to my in-law's house.

I shouldn't have to say any more.

Also, Bathroom gaming.

You would take an iPad AND a controller while you're on the toilet? I imagine that'd be hard as f*ck to play. Playing video games or reading there is dumb in general. I just do my business and gtfo.

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]If I was at someone else's house, why would I be playing video games unless it's with them? :|

You're not invited to my house anymore, Jecht!

Aljosa23

I often take my iPad when I go to my in-law's house.

I shouldn't have to say any more.

Also, Bathroom gaming.

You would take an iPad AND a controller while you're on the toilet? I imagine that'd be hard as f*ck to play. Playing video games or reading there is dumb in general. I just do my business and gtfo.

I have before, yeah. Why not actually be doing something while you are pitching a load? Do you just sit there and stare at the wall?

I have before, yeah. Why not actually be doing something while you are pitching a load? Do you just sit there and stare at the wall?

jechtshot78

Yes, think of it as a break away from electronic screens.

I mean it's technically unhealthy to sit on a standard toilet for long periods of times anyways, because it's considered unnatural for the extra gravity on your ass, so might as well hurry it up and not get distracted. :o  

I have before, yeah. Why not actually be doing something while you are pitching a load? Do you just sit there and stare at the wall?

jechtshot78

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]

I have before, yeah. Why not actually be doing something while you are pitching a load? Do you just sit there and stare at the wall?

Aljosa23

I guess. I do a lot of driving for my job, so I ponder and think then.

In any case, anyone with an iPad should check out Atomix Magizine on newsstand. It is a gaming mag built for the iPad, and it is very good.

And free.

In any case, anyone with an iPad should check out Atomix Magizine on newsstand. It is a gaming mag built for the iPad, and it is very good.

And free.

jechtshot78

modern gaming journalism that isn't giantbomb :lol:

I have an acer I got for about $600 after taxes as well, though it's 15.6" i3-350 2.26 ghz, 4 threads(was only one with this CPU under $800 at the time), 4 gb DD3, 500gb HDD, I used it at school, and now I use it at work. I've taken it with me on trips and used it at a hotel a number of times as well. It's about 6 hours with normal use of battery life, that being no games/movies. Webcam included, wide enough to have a numpad. 

I love this laptop, I spent about an hour a day, for a week, comparing a number of sites, stores and prices, this was the only laptop that met all my requirements and was in my price range. It is excellent for older games and coding, 15.6" good enough anyways, another 1-1.5" won't make a huge difference. 

110million

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]

In any case, anyone with an iPad should check out Atomix Magizine on newsstand. It is a gaming mag built for the iPad, and it is very good.

And free.

110million

modern gaming journalism that isn't giantbomb :lol:

Check it out first. I think they are a lot more indie than CbsBomb.

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]

In any case, anyone with an iPad should check out Atomix Magizine on newsstand. It is a gaming mag built for the iPad, and it is very good.

And free.

110million

modern gaming journalism that isn't giantbomb :lol:

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] No, I would say I am a "tech enthusiast" who is well knowledged in a variety of technical fields relating to the computer and electonics industry.Slow_Show

Or, more succinctly...*

*Is obvious joke, before someone gets all self-rightous with the "OMG calling someone else a nerd on a gaming forum" defence.

It's a stretch to call what the guys at GiantBomb do as "Journalism".

Aljosa23

It's a stretch to call any gaming journalism as 'journalism', in comparison, giantbomb is most fair and balanced. ;)