Alright I got an hour to kill(The Vita thread)

Yeah, it's a nice looking device, but I'm not sold on it. None of the software is really enticing me either, but that may change a year (or two) from now.

They needed to stick with the Xperia Play formula and just build on that (something like a proper ~4" touchscreen smartphone with a dock-type thing for the physical controls and extra battery life).

The only reason Nintendo has a chance is they can sell the 3DS for cheap and load it up with Nintendo franchises, so you eventually reach the point where any gamer can justify spending $120-150 for some more Mario/Zelda/*insert franchise here*. With Sony, not only do they have to deal with a flawed product (too expensive, no onboard storage, sh*tty UI, useless 3G) but they don't have anywhere near the franchises to support it (hooray for Resistance and Killzone spin-offs? (although now that I think about it, Killzone Liberation was easily the best game in the franchise).

And don't even get me started on those Ready at Dawn f*ckwads...

Meh to handheld gaming. I'll stick to my ipad, ipod and android phone when the needs must.blue_hazy_basic

I learned my lesson from the PSP. This going to need a lot more good games before I even consider getting it.

Getting mine on Wednesday. Don't take handhelds outside the house thus "gaming on the go" can suck it.

I'm not impressed thus far but I might give it a shot down the line

...if it even survives that long :3

I learned my lesson from the PSP. This going to need a lot more good games before I even consider getting it.

SpiritOfFire117

This is what I feel. I now have an iPhone and iPad, so I've got plenty to occupy my time. The only game right now that would really get my attention would be a new Valkyria Chronicles game.

Otherwise, nothing so far interests me.

I don't even see the portability of handhelds as a factor anymore, since I virtually never bring them outside the house. I'm one of those types who plays handhelds in bed. So I don't care about the huegness of the Vita or even its battery life, I just want good games that aren't console ports. When/if it gets enough of those, and when/if it doesn't seem to be going down in flames commercially, I will get one.Cherokee_Jack

This man has read my mind

I don't even see the portability of handhelds as a factor anymore, since I virtually never bring them outside the house. I'm one of those types who plays handhelds in bed. So I don't care about the huegness of the Vita or even its battery life, I just want good games that aren't console ports. When/if it gets enough of those, and when/if it doesn't seem to be going down in flames commercially, I will get one.Cherokee_Jack

Yeah, pretty much.

Handheld gaming devices should not try to be mobile phones (N-Gage I'm looking at you).

I'm getting one because unlike most here I actually do play a lot of handheld games. Hell I spent the entire week playing RE Revelations.

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The Vita is essentially everything wrong with Sony in a sleek plastic shell; completely out of touch with what people want, where the industry is heading and what people are willing to pay. Just like the PSP. Just like the PS3. /hatin'Ninja-Hippo

lol nice hyperbole bro. 

The Vita is essentially everything wrong with Sony in a sleek plastic shell; completely out of touch with what people want, where the industry is heading and what people are willing to pay. Just like the PSP. Just like the PS3. /hatin'Ninja-Hippo

I hope you aren't serious.

I mean, no one who posts on a gufu forum could be this idiotic, right?

Don't answer that.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]The Vita is essentially everything wrong with Sony in a sleek plastic shell; completely out of touch with what people want, where the industry is heading and what people are willing to pay. Just like the PSP. Just like the PS3. /hatin'jechtshot78

I hope you aren't serious.

I mean, no one who posts on a gufu forum could be this idiotic, right?

Don't answer that.

I'll say it again just like how i did in this article http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps-vita-devs-jumping-ship-largely-exaggerated-sony-6350538

"The Price matters more than anything. Go ahead and add a bunch of unnecessary features. Watch as you lose money for selling it at a still high price that few people only buy which is the case in Japan. Then devs starting jumping ship or going multiplat. This is how the PS3 started. I'm just telling it how it is. Average consumers don't care about those extra features especially in this bad economy."

Just for the record I got 13 upvotes and 1 downvote when I posted this. See that Jecht ? It's teh power of logic.

He is kind of right actually.

"The Price matters more than anything. Go ahead and add a bunch of unnecessary features. Watch as you lose money for selling it at a still high price that few people only buy which is the case in Japan. Then devs starting jumping ship or going multiplat. This is how the PS3 started. I'm just telling it how it is. Average consumers don't care about those extra features especially in this bad economy."

Just for the record I got 13 upvotes and 1 downvote when I posted this. See that Jecht ? It's teh power of logic.

kage_53

You kids have spent too much time in system wars instead of living in the real world.

The power of logic tells me that there is a lot of illogical disdain towards everything in this world. So an article belittling something that someone either likes, or is indifferent towards will be easily overlooked. Ergo, they will not spend time looking at the predictably negative comments section.

Thus your upvotes and downvotes mean nothing at all because the audience is skewed.

Don't bother responding with any rebuttal, It will only look like mindless system wars drivel to me and everyone here who still possesses a brain.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]The Vita is essentially everything wrong with Sony in a sleek plastic shell; completely out of touch with what people want, where the industry is heading and what people are willing to pay. Just like the PSP. Just like the PS3. /hatin'Aljosa23

lol nice hyperbole bro.

[QUOTE="kage_53"]He is kind of right actually.

"The Price matters more than anything. Go ahead and add a bunch of unnecessary features. Watch as you lose money for selling it at a still high price that few people only buy which is the case in Japan. Then devs starting jumping ship or going multiplat. This is how the PS3 started. I'm just telling it how it is. Average consumers don't care about those extra features especially in this bad economy."

Just for the record I got 13 upvotes and 1 downvote when I posted this. See that Jecht ? It's teh power of logic.

jechtshot78

You kids have spent too much time in system wars instead of living in the real world.

The power of logic tells me that there is a lot of illogical disdain towards everything in this world. So an article belittling something that someone either likes, or is indifferent towards will be easily overlooked. Ergo, they will not spend time looking at the predictably negative comments section.

Thus your upvotes and downvotes mean nothing at all because the audience is skewed.

Don't bother responding with any rebuttal, It will only look like mindless system wars drivel to me and everyone here who still possesses a brain.

[QUOTE="kage_53"]He is kind of right actually.

"The Price matters more than anything. Go ahead and add a bunch of unnecessary features. Watch as you lose money for selling it at a still high price that few people only buy which is the case in Japan. Then devs starting jumping ship or going multiplat. This is how the PS3 started. I'm just telling it how it is. Average consumers don't care about those extra features especially in this bad economy."

Just for the record I got 13 upvotes and 1 downvote when I posted this. See that Jecht ? It's teh power of logic.

jechtshot78

You kids have spent too much time in system wars instead of living in the real world.

The power of logic tells me that there is a lot of illogical disdain towards everything in this world. So an article belittling something that someone either likes, or is indifferent towards will be easily overlooked. Ergo, they will not spend time looking at the predictably negative comments section.

Thus your upvotes and downvotes mean nothing at all because the audience is skewed.

Don't bother responding with any rebuttal, It will only look like mindless system wars drivel to me and everyone here who still possesses a brain.

Are you telling me Vita would not be in a better position if didn't have not 1 but 2 cameras, used a different screen instead of OLED which costs a ton to make, no touch screen along with a bunch of other unnecessary crap ? Sony could have easily made it $200 at launch if they got rid of all of those stupid features and might have made some money of it. I thought they learned their lesson with the PS3 but I guess I was wrong.

 

You kids have spent too much time in system wars instead of living in the real world.

 

The power of logic tells me that there is a lot of illogical disdain towards everything in this world. So an article belittling something that someone either likes, or is indifferent towards will be easily overlooked. Ergo, they will not spend time looking at the predictably negative comments section.

 

Thus your upvotes and downvotes mean nothing at all because the audience is skewed.

 

Don't bother responding with any rebuttal, It will only look like mindless system wars drivel to me and everyone here who still possesses a brain.

jechtshot78

I don't think SW is anywhere near representative of the gaming populace but I find the complaints about the Vita's unnecessary features and high price point to be perfectly valid. The Vita launched to lukewarm sales and has never gone above tepid since. In a market saturated by smartphones and iPod Touches and a strong competitor in the form of the 3DS, an already expensive $250 Vita is a hard sell, and that's before games and the overpriced proprietary memory cards, which puts you well over the $350 mark with just two games. Sure, I recognize that any game system is an investment but that still doesn't make my wallet feel any better about it.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]The Vita is essentially everything wrong with Sony in a sleek plastic shell; completely out of touch with what people want, where the industry is heading and what people are willing to pay. Just like the PSP. Just like the PS3. /hatin'Ninja-Hippo

lol nice hyperbole bro.

You said "completely out of touch with what people want...like the PSP. Just like the PS3" and the numbers speak differently regardless of how much the DS sold and what ever happened in the PS2 days.

dat internet hyperbole smh

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]*looks at how much PSP and PS3 have sold*

lol nice hyperbole bro.

Aljosa23

You said "completely out of touch with what people want...like the PSP. Just like the PS3" and the numbers speak differently regardless of how much the DS sold and what ever happened in the PS2 days.

dat internet hyperbole smh

All these posters know how to do is move goal posts.

Holy crap, I have my account back, when did this happen.

Anyways, I got a Vita, and I want to reply to a few things. First of all, I would not want them to go non-OLED, the cameras are crappy, so they can remove them, but I don't want to sacrafice everything.

I feel the Vita is the best handheld in terms of look and functions, I was never a fan of dual screens, even if the DS had so many good games, few of them ever made neccessary use of the dual screens (save TWEWY).

The price will drop, and it will get more games, it would not make sense for most people to get it, but people should really not compare phone gaming to handheld gaming. One is to waste time, one is to play games, there are a few worthwhile phone games, but they will never compare to a gaming handheld device. I alternate taking 3DS and Vita to work on night shifts, but right now I have about the same amount of games I care for on each, except I've had one for a week and another for months.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] *Looks at how much the PS1 and PS2 sold* *Look at third party support PS2 had* *Looks at DS sales* Job done. jechtshot78

You said "completely out of touch with what people want...like the PSP. Just like the PS3" and the numbers speak differently regardless of how much the DS sold and what ever happened in the PS2 days.

dat internet hyperbole smh

All these posters know how to do is move goal posts.

Oh well, I'm getting my Vita tommorow and maybe the 3DS in a couple of months. This year is shaping up to pretty pathetic when it comes to console games..

Oh well, I'm getting my Vita tommorow and maybe the 3DS in a couple of months. This year is shaping up to pretty pathetic when it comes to console games..

kage_53

Tales of Graces, Ni No Kuni, Yakuza: Dead Souls,  Armor Core 5, SSX, Dragon's Dogma, for console only, looking decent so far I'd say, and we still have not had major gaming events. Nintendo tends to do a lot of 6 months before release announcements too. 

Yeah, I kind of feel the same way about Dragon's Dogma, Capcom's stink just seems to ruin games no matter how good they may be, though Dragon's Dogma only looks like it would be fun if it had some actual online. Lollipop Chainsaw should be this year, considering the amount of advertising it got not long ago. 

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]You never said anything about the DS or any of that other stuff in your original post so I'd prefer if you'd stop moving goal posts.

You said "completely out of touch with what people want...like the PSP. Just like the PS3" and the numbers speak differently regardless of how much the DS sold and what ever happened in the PS2 days.

dat internet hyperbole smh

kage_53

All these posters know how to do is move goal posts.

Oh well, I'm getting my Vita tommorow and maybe the 3DS in a couple of months. This year is shaping up to pretty pathetic when it comes to console games..

I already told you I wasn't going to waste my time responding in any meaningful form. Your opinion won't change.

Also, I never made an initial arguement for the vita, only mocked ninja downing sony just to down sony. Which is system wars idiocy rubbing off on him.

Wow. Setting the Vita up is such a **** It couldn't let me link my PSN account. It can't connect to my internet because it somehow has a weak signal yet my pc says my signal strength is excellent, same with my PS3. Constantly saying I need to update the firmware then it take me back to the previous page during set up and repeats the process over and over.... Maybe I should have gotten the 3g version when I had the chance.

Wow. Setting the Vita up is such a **** It couldn't let me link my PSN account. It can't connect to my internet because it somehow has a weak signal yet my pc says my signal strength is excellent, same with my PS3. Constantly saying I need to update the firmware then it take me back to the previous page during set up and repeats the process over and over.... Maybe I should have gotten the 3g version when I had the chance.

kage_53

Lawl, setting mine up took all but 10 seconds. I even did it again so I could download the Gravity Rush demo from the Hong Kong PSN store.

Wow. Setting the Vita up is such a **** It couldn't let me link my PSN account. It can't connect to my internet because it somehow has a weak signal yet my pc says my signal strength is excellent, same with my PS3. Constantly saying I need to update the firmware then it take me back to the previous page during set up and repeats the process over and over.... Maybe I should have gotten the 3g version when I had the chance.

kage_53

How far away are you from your router? Portable devices generally have shorter wi-fi ranges (for reasons I assume have to do with power consumption and antenna size), so you might just have to move closer to your router in order to maintain a strong signal.

Otherwise I'd assume you should be able to do things by connecting your Vita to your PC or PS3.

[QUOTE="kage_53"]

Wow. Setting the Vita up is such a **** It couldn't let me link my PSN account. It can't connect to my internet because it somehow has a weak signal yet my pc says my signal strength is excellent, same with my PS3. Constantly saying I need to update the firmware then it take me back to the previous page during set up and repeats the process over and over.... Maybe I should have gotten the 3g version when I had the chance.

Slow_Show

How far away are you from your router? Portable devices generally have shorter wi-fi ranges (for reasons I assume have to do with power consumption and antenna size), so you might just have to move closer to your router in order to maintain a strong signal.

Otherwise I'd assume you should be able to do things by connecting your Vita to your PC or PS3.

I set mine up from 15 feet away and a few walls, sounds like it derped for a bit I guess. 

Also alj, I thought after you setup a PSN account on a vita, you can't change it, I haven't tried cause I read that. Were you able to go to setup the honk kong PSN then switch back to a regular one or did you have to swap memory sticks or something? 

I set mine up from 15 feet away and a few walls, sounds like it derped for a bit I guess.

Also alj, I thought after you setup a PSN account on a vita, you can't change it, I haven't tried cause I read that. Were you able to go to setup the honk kong PSN then switch back to a regular one or did you have to swap memory sticks or something?

110million

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]*looks at how much PSP and PS3 have sold*

lol nice hyperbole bro.

Aljosa23

You said "completely out of touch with what people want...like the PSP. Just like the PS3" and the numbers speak differently regardless of how much the DS sold and what ever happened in the PS2 days.

dat internet hyperbole smh

I already told you I wasn't going to waste my time responding in any meaningful form. Your opinion won't change.

Also, I never made an initial arguement for the vita, only mocked ninja downing sony just to down sony. Which is system wars idiocy rubbing off on him.

jechtshot78

'ninja downing sony just to down sony.' Right, because i have a history of fanboyism amirite? Did i not simply make a reasonable criticism of Sony's modern performance in the videogame market, not knowing what people really want and being out of touch with the market? Why do you find that so offensive? Do you work for their marketing department?

Number two 'your opinion wont change.' Says who? What evidence is there to support that? If the PSVita dropped to $100 tomorrow i'd be saying it's the best value handheld of all time, why wouldn't i? This thread is like system wars circa five years ago; infantile.

Number two 'your opinion wont change.' Says who? What evidence is there to support that? If the PSVita dropped to $100 tomorrow i'd be saying it's the best value handheld of all time, why wouldn't i? This thread is like system wars circa five years ago; infantile.

Ninja-Hippo

So you're saying it would require to drop in price to lower than the parts it costs to make the 3DS with in order for you to consider it best value?

Fanboysim much? 

:P 

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]The Vita is essentially everything wrong with Sony in a sleek plastic shell; completely out of touch with what people want, where the industry is heading and what people are willing to pay. Just like the PSP. Just like the PS3. /hatin'Ninja-Hippo

lol nice hyperbole bro.

looks like we got a lemming 8) 

Given the success(yes I said success) of the PS3, The PSP, their genuine good track record with game critics(not saying much) it's hard to argue that sony is out of touch with the market.

Behind the curve? absolutely on the premise that they've been bested the past few years. Let's not forget however that Iwata full on was going on about how ashamed he was of the 3DS's initial response, or how much Nintendo has already screwed up because people are too stupid to understand the Wii U is a new console. So I don't see how a drop off means a company is out of touch.

The Vita's only real glaring issue is how it doesn't have a standard memory unit built in, or one that just came with the system. Outside of that it's a nice piece of tech, has 3G to boot, and has dual joysticks which Nintenod realized was stupid on their part not to have. Either way they are handhelds, and as far as I'm concerned they serve me no purpose until they get games worthy of note.

I really do like the Vita, but I wish the nubs were like the 360's controller so that they'd feel a bit more comfortable on my thumbs.SpinoRaptor24

Yep. The 3DS one is quite nice. I wonder if it may feel a bit too loose for an FPS, but for any kind of general camera turning it's good.