NFL: Who is the Most Valuable Player? Brady, Manning, Peterson or RG3?

1. Manning
2. Peterson
3. Brady

Still more football to be played, but imma say Manning. What he's done after comin back from surgery is crazy.

You guys tell me what I should use when deciding who is mvp then ill decide. People have different definitions.

AP as he plays the more physically demanding position out of the others. Imo of course. I'll quote myself from another thread as it's got some eye candy. Edited of course.

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Namgis

You guys tell me what I should use when deciding who is mvp then ill decide. People have different definitions.

Chutebox

what about Luck?

Brady shouldn't even be on that list, the year he went down the Pats still went 11-5 with freakin Matt Cassell. I would Split it between Manning and AP while RG3 would be the runner up!!

Brady shouldn't even be on that list, the year he went down the Pats still went 11-5 with freakin Matt Cassell.

MarcRecon

Brady shouldn't even be on that list, the year he went down the Pats still went 11-5 with freakin Matt Cassell. I would Split it between Manning and AP while RG3 would be the runner up!!

MarcRecon

Brady shouldn't even be on that list, the year he went down the Pats still went 11-5 with freakin Matt Cassell. I would Split it between Manning and AP while RG3 would be the runner up!!

MarcRecon

Robert Griffin even mentioned is a disgrace and an insult to the other candidates.

I don't even know where to begin with the anti-Brady arguments, but i'll try

Brady shouldn't even be on that list, the year he went down the Pats still went 11-5 with freakin Matt Cassell. I would Split it between Manning and AP while RG3 would be the runner up!!

MarcRecon

That means the Patriots have phenomenal depth at all 21 other positions, not that Brady isn't the key to them winning championships. monkeytoes61

I don't even know where to begin with the anti-Brady arguments, but i'll try

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]Brady shouldn't even be on that list, the year he went down the Pats still went 11-5 with freakin Matt Cassell. I would Split it between Manning and AP while RG3 would be the runner up!!

Boston_Boyy

That means the Patriots have phenomenal depth at all 21 other positions, not that Brady isn't the key to them winning championships. monkeytoes61

Look dude, I'm not trying to get into it with you about Brady...this is an open forum and we are all entitled to our opinion. Now, you talked about how guys have fallen off who have left the team which kinda feeds into my point, what would happen if Brady left the team?

The Patriots have a great coach and an awsome football program so the same thing that you said about the other players who left could also be applied to brady.

Brady is the only correct answer

If it's anything else I suggest you learn about the NFL (NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE) and what it actually means to be MVP of the league

It's AP, RGIII deserves some consideration from the voters because his QB rating is off the charts good and this man is a rookie. He's only thrown 4 INT, while Andrew Luck is a turnover machine. He won't win but he deserves the talk.

[QUOTE="Boston_Boyy"]

I don't even know where to begin with the anti-Brady arguments, but i'll try

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]Brady shouldn't be considered for MVP because his team was succesful with Matt Cassel at QB, but Manning should while his team made the playoffs last year with Tim freaking Tebow? How does that make any sense at all? Do you realize that Cassel was leading a roster still mostly in-tact that had gone 16-0 the previous year? Do you realize Cassel's best year has actually come outside of New England in 2010, when he had a QBR of 93 and lead the Chiefs to the playoffs?

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]That means the Patriots have phenomenal depth at all 21 other positions, not that Brady isn't the key to them winning championships. MarcRecon

Look dude, I'm not trying to get into it with you about Brady...this is an open forum and we are all entitled to our opinion. Now, you talked about how guys have fallen off who have left the team which kinda feeds into my point, what would happen if Brady left the team?

The Patriots have a great coach and an awsome football program so the same thing that you said about the other players who left could also be applied to brady.

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="Boston_Boyy"]Did you watch earlier this year when the apparently terrible Russell Wilson torched our secondary to the tune of 293 yards and 3 TDs? Did you watch last year when Brady led the league's 31st ranked defense to the verge of a Super Bowl? Have you noticed the fact that we've seen signing guys off the street and our practice squad to play at Wide Receiver? Have you noticed how suddenly players like Randy Moss, Deion Branch, David Patten, David Givens, etc have fallen off after leaving the team?

Boston_Boyy

Look dude, I'm not trying to get into it with you about Brady...this is an open forum and we are all entitled to our opinion. Now, you talked about how guys have fallen off who have left the team which kinda feeds into my point, what would happen if Brady left the team?

The Patriots have a great coach and an awsome football program so the same thing that you said about the other players who left could also be applied to brady.

Hey man, let's honor the TC and stay on topic I just express my opinion and you responded with yours so I'll leave it at that.:)

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="Boston_Boyy"]Well possibly, I don't think anyone denies Belichick helps Brady, but it's not like he was an overwhelmingly great coach before Brady came along. Going 36-44 in Cleveland, and 5-11 in his first year with the Patriots. Not to suggest he's not a great coach, even the greatest need talent, but I think it's pretty clear it's not some sort of offense where they can plug anyone in and not suffer diminished performance. I'm also still curious to know how Brady should be inegliable due to the fact that Cassel (who as mentioned earlier, has had a very good season outside of New England) went 11-5, while Peyton Manning should when he took over a team that went 7-4 in games Tim Tebow started last year.

Bobbles

Hey man, let's honor the TC and stay on topic I just express my opinion and you responded with yours so I'll leave it at that.:)

lol...@Bobbles Those are some strong words coming from a guy hidding behind a keyboard. I won't even waste my time with you:P

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="Boston_Boyy"]Well possibly, I don't think anyone denies Belichick helps Brady, but it's not like he was an overwhelmingly great coach before Brady came along. Going 36-44 in Cleveland, and 5-11 in his first year with the Patriots. Not to suggest he's not a great coach, even the greatest need talent, but I think it's pretty clear it's not some sort of offense where they can plug anyone in and not suffer diminished performance. I'm also still curious to know how Brady should be inegliable due to the fact that Cassel (who as mentioned earlier, has had a very good season outside of New England) went 11-5, while Peyton Manning should when he took over a team that went 7-4 in games Tim Tebow started last year.

Bobbles

Hey man, let's honor the TC and stay on topic I just express my opinion and you responded with yours so I'll leave it at that.:)

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

You guys tell me what I should use when deciding who is mvp then ill decide. People have different definitions.

monkeytoes61

the term MVP suggests "Most Valuable" to their team. if it wanted the best all around, the name should be something else.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

Hey man, let's honor the TC and stay on topic I just express my opinion and you responded with yours so I'll leave it at that.:)

No_Hablo_Ingles

:P....OMG....did you actually read "ALL" of what we discussed?? We both expressed our opinion and we disagreed respectively so what was the point of going on about 2 millionaires who don't give a rats terd about either one of us?

I don't have a problem with an intelligent debate but this was one that I didn't think was worth it. If you think it was that important I apologize but I'm not here to entertain you. @No_Hablo_Ingles :)

1. Peyton
2. Brady
3. AP

lol @ anyone else including RGturd.

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="Bobbles"] You are a f***ing pusscake. If you are going to say something stupid, be ready to back it up. Don't go "Hey man, I didn't want to start anything by being a goddamn moron".MarcRecon

:P....OMG....did you actually read "ALL" of what we discussed?? We both expressed our opinion and we disagreed respectively so what was the point of going on about 2 millionaires who don't give a rats terd about either one of us?

I don't have a problem with an intelligent debate but this was one that I didn't think was worth it. If you think it was that important I apologize but I'm not here to entertain you. @No_Hablo_Ingles :)

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] I agree with this. If you are going to type something on an open forum, prepare to defend your point... or you can hide behind your opinion like a 'f***ing pusscake'No_Hablo_Ingles

:P....OMG....did you actually read "ALL" of what we discussed?? We both expressed our opinion and we disagreed respectively so what was the point of going on about 2 millionaires who don't give a rats terd about either one of us?

I don't have a problem with an intelligent debate but this was one that I didn't think was worth it. If you think it was that important I apologize but I'm not here to entertain you. @No_Hablo_Ingles :)

Wow....how intelligent are you? It seems that the only thing you've been BRAIN STORMING with is insults!:P Which is typical of most RUDE people on the internet,it's the only platform in which you can express yourself because you fear a direct response to your comments.

I highly doubt your this vocal in real life and I find that rather AMUSING.:) @No_Hablo_Ingles

Wow....how intelligent are you? It seems that the only thing you've been BRAIN STORMING with is insults!:PMarcRecon

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

:P....OMG....did you actually read "ALL" of what we discussed?? We both expressed our opinion and we disagreed respectively so what was the point of going on about 2 millionaires who don't give a rats terd about either one of us?

I don't have a problem with an intelligent debate but this was one that I didn't think was worth it. If you think it was that important I apologize but I'm not here to entertain you. @No_Hablo_Ingles :)

MarcRecon

Wow....how intelligent are you? It seems that the only thing you've been BRAIN STORMING with is insults!:P Which is typical of most RUDE people on the internet,it's the only platform in which you can express yourself because you fear a direct response to your comments.

I highly doubt your this vocal in real life and I find that rather AMUSING.:) @No_Hablo_Ingles

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]Wow....how intelligent are you? It seems that the only thing you've been BRAIN STORMING with is insults!:PNo_Hablo_Ingles

That's how I feel when I read your trash every time.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

You guys tell me what I should use when deciding who is mvp then ill decide. People have different definitions.

monkeytoes61

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]Wow....how intelligent are you? It seems that the only thing you've been BRAIN STORMING with is insults!:PNo_Hablo_Ingles

lol....the only thing I can respond with is.......THANKS!!!:lol:

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="MarcRecon"]Wow....how intelligent are you? It seems that the only thing you've been BRAIN STORMING with is insults!:PPut_in_Kitna

That's how I feel when I read your trash every time.

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] Your opinion is stupid though, and I seriously doubt you are capable of an intelligent debate. A monkey trying to have an intelligent debate is amusing though, so go ahead and knock yourself out.Bobbles

Wow....how intelligent are you? It seems that the only thing you've been BRAIN STORMING with is insults!:P Which is typical of most RUDE people on the internet,it's the only platform in which you can express yourself because you fear a direct response to your comments.

I highly doubt your this vocal in real life and I find that rather AMUSING.:) @No_Hablo_Ingles

You are ABSOLUTELY correct, it seems to come naturally to people who are lonely, sad and isolated!!!

[QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] Don't give yourself too much credit, you arrogant waste. I don't have to brain storm insults, it comes naturally while reading your comments.No_Hablo_Ingles

That's how I feel when I read your trash every time.

Cept im not. Unlike you who licked your coaches wein when it was obvious he was a POS. Waste.

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="Put_in_Kitna"]

That's how I feel when I read your trash every time.

Put_in_Kitna

Cept im not. Unlike you who licked your coaches wein when it was obvious he was a POS. Waste.

Cept im not. Unlike you who licked your coaches wein when it was obvious he was a POS. Waste.

Put_in_Kitna

What Coach? Mike Shannah? No_Hablo_Ingles

RG3 should not be in the discussion. It should be between Brady and AP. The Broncos went the 2nd round of the playoffs last season with Tim Tebow (who by the way was 7-3 in the regular season), who couldn't even beat out Mark freakin Sanchez. Brady has had his o-line and recieveing core depleted throughout the season. I believe the last Pats game was the first time the entire o-line was starting together. Then you look at the Pats recievers. Welker is there, yeah sure. Lloyd has been injured, Edelman is out for the year, Hernandez has been out for most of the season, and Gronkowski has been out for three weeks already. If Cassel was the Pats QB, they wouldn't even be sniffing playoffs. Also, Manning plays in the worst division in the league. That is for the QBs. AP is the Vikings offense. Vikings are dead last in passing offense. If it isn't Brady, it should be AP and vice versa.