[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"][QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"] Oh forgot the other part of your thread. Jrpgs, probably won't come back in the TB style you want because they are severely limited. Like in the U.S. with SS(lol), that was never intended to continue, it was to get around limitations in old wrpgs, and in certain games that seem to have issues handling too much going on without having separated battles. Like thing like the Dragon system in BOF3 and Materia in FF7 are really technically as far as the genre can really get without being unnecessary. TB combat can't go any further than a slightly nicer looking menu navigation and a side gimmick that can effect your moves, but otherwise it can;t really evolve much further and PSP and DS pure TB games this gen have shown this quite a lot. What I want is what your avatar did, go for the no loading screen approach to battles, but make it real-time, and maybe start with partial control of the characters in someway. But avoid the do nothing but press A/X route like FFXIII.Dj-Dampleaf
I understand what you are saying when you say they are extremely limited, but that is because not enough thought goes into some of them. I truly wish I could take the reigns as a lead designer or project manager. I am on my way, but my schooling is nowhere near complete. I am currently enrolled at the Art Institute of Pittsburgh going for a BA in Game Art & Design. I'm thinking about backing that up with at least an associates in English. That way even if I dont have wuite enough artistic ability (which some people seem to have naturally) I can use my writing skills to get me in the door as a professional reviewer or article writer.
If I had the power to make my own turn based RPG however, I think I could show everybody that it hasnt "already all been done." Look at the shooting genre... it has "evolved" (often times in a bad way) throughout the years. Turn based RPG's just need a bit of an overhaul with seamless loading times and a few other improvements to make a comeback. However like I already stated, it will probably be the most challenging however due to the fact that making online play would be a huge challenge.
If they can come up with a way to make this style of gameplay be cooperative, I believe it could really take off again. However, I dont wnat to see that. I just want the great old RPG's back. i know there are other slike me out there that love the game play and the laid back style while still being challenged.
The issue people and you no offense don't realize is that progression of turn based combat rpgs was held up to Western Devs that would always add heavy depth and complex gameplay with the system and when they ditched it, Japan pretty much kept the same exact formula. They only tampered with some outside elements, like getting attacked in real-time, which was actually already done, but you get the point, and adding side-ons like materia and in my and your case, Dragon transformations, but that never actually added to the combat just added more options during it. Take for example, Chrono Trigger, which lots of people like for some reason, the battle system is streamlined and easy but not progressive. Final Fantasy X while 2 gens of the FF engine, is not progressive, and this is why the popularity of Jrpgs only rose up highly with a few franchises and crashed back down especially the end of last gen and all this gen. What people need to do is do as you say, add more effort, but nobody seems to know what that actually means. Better monster summons? no, random character switch crap that doesn't work(unlimited Saga)? no. Have some side monster attack on the side without being controlled? no. People need to put more effort on the battle system and how you use it, instead of just adding sugar a grease on the outside to make the cake look tasty and then it tastes like cardboard. The question is nobody is doing that. The Wrpgs that still used some form of Turnbased all finished or died last gen. Mostly finished. They need to forget cardboard boxes and use actual flower and bake the cake and add stuff from the inside to make a tasty treat. You get my meaning.I understand and agree with most of what you said more then you will ever know. RPG's are not dead. It is the devs who beat a formula into the ground by copying everybody else. Same as this gen with shooters. Traditional RPG's can and probably will make a comeback eventually, I just dont want to wait another 10 years. The "dragon transformation" was FAR from my favorite part of ANY of the 3 Breath of Fire games. My favorite part of all three games were the town environments, the thoughtful dungeons, good storylines, the best boss battles EVER, and lovable characters. I could care less about the dragon transformations which I rarely used anyways, There were some genuinely unique and GREAT puzzles within the BoF series, and the tlc they put into thoses games was very easy to see with game gurus like myself. Undeniable charm, great gameplay, good storylines, and thoughtful features that easily blow away games like Chrono Trigger is why I love the games.
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