[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"]I like becoming immersed in a fantastical world -- helps take my mind off of things. As far as gameplay is concerned, as long as it is decent enough to complement the great story in the RPG, I don't care all that much. :P OMG you said "Decent" ! Is this happening ? Is this REALLY happening ? Who the hell gets out of Bed for Decent ! I play more for the story than the gameplay.
[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"][QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"]I like becoming immersed in a fantastical world -- helps take my mind off of things. As far as gameplay is concerned, as long as it is decent enough to complement the great story in the RPG, I don't care all that much. :P OMG you said "Decent" ! Is this happening ? Is this REALLY happening ? Who the hell gets out of Bed for Decent ! I play more for the story than the gameplay. Good for you. But please give the gameplay alil more scrutiny. Do it for all our fallen video game brothers and sisters.
I don't see anything wrong with prefering story over gameplay. Different gamers play for different things. The beauty of games is that there are so many different kinds of games, including gameplay heavy and story driven games. For me, I like both. I play stuff like Borderlands, Bayonetta, Demon's Souls, and Disgaea for the gameplay mainly. I'll play stuff like Heavy Rain for the story. And I'll play games like Persona 3 and 4, Uncharted, Valkyria Chronicles, and Devil Survivor for both. I like 'em all. :P
I don't see anything wrong with prefering story over gameplay. Different gamers play for different things. The beauty of games is that there are so many different kinds of games, including gameplay heavy and story driven games. For me, I like both. I play stuff like Borderlands, Bayonetta, Demon's Souls, and Disgaea for the gameplay mainly. I'll play stuff like Heavy Rain for the story. And I'll play games like Persona 3 and 4, Uncharted, Valkyria Chronicles, and Devil Survivor for both. I like 'em all. :P
Lucky_Krystal
Allright thats it I can't be silent any longer. Do you have time for books and Television ? I just gota know.
[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"][QUOTE="Lulekani"] OMG you said "Decent" ! Is this happening ? Is this REALLY happening ? Who the hell gets out of Bed for Decent !Lulekani
I play more for the story than the gameplay. Good for you. But please give the gameplay alil more scrutiny. Do it for all our fallen video game brothers and sisters.
I don't see anything wrong with prefering story over gameplay. Different gamers play for different things. The beauty of games is that there are so many different kinds of games, including gameplay heavy and story driven games. For me, I like both. I play stuff like Borderlands, Bayonetta, Demon's Souls, and Disgaea for the gameplay mainly. I'll play stuff like Heavy Rain for the story. And I'll play games like Persona 3 and 4, Uncharted, Valkyria Chronicles, and Devil Survivor for both. I like 'em all. :P
Lucky_Krystal
Agreed. I do the same thing and I've played some of those games and others for the very same reasons.
It's not a big mystery. Some people like different kinds of games for different reasons. Or feel like playing different kinds of games depending on mood.
Allright thats it I can't be silent any longer. Do you have time for books and Television ? I just gota know.
capaho
Are you suggesting that games shouldn't have stories because books and television do? If so, what's your rationale?
I'm wondering why he asked that too. :?
To answer your question Lulekani, I'm not very big on movies these days. I do read a lot, but its mostly non fiction. What does that have to do with what I said though?
I know some people who only really like the story and not to not actually play the game. Sounds weird, but games are no longer just "games" they cover everything that doesnt have any story that is just multiplayer gaming to something that has almost no gameplay but is pure story driven such as Heavy Rain.
The attraction that I dont see is making a game so simple that is a simple click next click next click next, when the story isnt very good, or people who play RTS games just against bots and wont take on actual people. I suppose if they lose they dont like that.. xD
Allright thats it I can't be silent any longer. Do you have time for books and Television ? I just gota know.
capaho
Are you suggesting that games shouldn't have stories because books and television do? If so, what's your rationale?
Well Capaho, its like this. If your getting alot of your narrative needs from video games then whats your aproach to books and movies. And more importantly how do you manage your precious precious time ?
[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"][QUOTE="Lulekani"] OMG you said "Decent" ! Is this happening ? Is this REALLY happening ? Who the hell gets out of Bed for Decent ! I play more for the story than the gameplay. Good for you. But please give the gameplay alil more scrutiny. Do it for all our fallen video game brothers and sisters. I would go into more depth if I wasn't just taking a 3-minute break from finals studying, but I guess it is the same reason I play tabletop RPGs. I love being immersed, becoming engaged, and letting my imagination run free as I conquer the forces of evil, save hot babes from distress, cast ludicrously awesome spells, etc. The gameplay definitely *matters* but I would rather have an incredible story with gameplay that doesn't do too much for me, rather than superb gameplay with a horrifically bad story tacked on. Then again I'm just talking about RPGs; if we're talking about adventure games/platformers/action games, well then. Gameplay > story.
Allright thats it I can't be silent any longer. Do you have time for books and Television ? I just gota know.
Lulekani
Are you suggesting that games shouldn't have stories because books and television do? If so, what's your rationale?
Well Capaho, its like this. If your getting alot of your narrative needs from video games then whats your aproach to books and movies. And more importantly how do you manage your precious precious time ?
You seem to have some beef against anyone who says that they enjoy stories in video games.
Are you suggesting that games shouldn't have stories because books and television do? If so, what's your rationale?
Lucky_Krystal
Well Capaho, its like this. If your getting alot of your narrative needs from video games then whats your aproach to books and movies. And more importantly how do you manage your precious precious time ?
You seem to have some beef against anyone who says that they enjoy stories in video games.
beef ? No sir. Im not shy about expressing beef. And as for the issue at hand, Im just curious and probing this topic might help me emerge as a truly enlightened human being. I mean if thats okay with you ? (Please say its okay)
Well Capaho, its like this. If your getting alot of your narrative needs from video games then whats your aproach to books and movies. And more importantly how do you manage your precious precious time ?
Lulekani
Narrative needs? You seem to be on a train of thought that no one else is riding. Games and other forms of entertainment or intellectual endeavors that involve stories are not mutually exclusive. Time management is manageable for those of us who have need for it. Are you suggesting that games shouldn't have stories because other media do? If so, your logic escapes me.
Well Capaho, its like this. If your getting alot of your narrative needs from video games then whats your aproach to books and movies. And more importantly how do you manage your precious precious time ?
capaho
Narrative needs? You seem to be on a train of thought that no one else is riding. Games and other forms of entertainment or intellectual endeavors that involve stories are not mutually exclusive. Time management is manageable for those of us who have need for it. Are you suggesting that games shouldn't have stories because other media do? If so, your logic escapes me.
narrative in media, regardless of how similar they are, stil remain unique to its medium, stories in books/graphic novels arent like stories in film and television. But video games, they havent pushed hard enough. Journey and heavey rain and the walking dead are a step in the right direction but one can't help but sense some hesitation on the side of developers and their target audience. Lets put a stop to medium leaching and pave our own way through this wonderful medium.
Well Capaho, its like this. If your getting alot of your narrative needs from video games then whats your aproach to books and movies. And more importantly how do you manage your precious precious time ?
Lulekani
Narrative needs? You seem to be on a train of thought that no one else is riding. Games and other forms of entertainment or intellectual endeavors that involve stories are not mutually exclusive. Time management is manageable for those of us who have need for it. Are you suggesting that games shouldn't have stories because other media do? If so, your logic escapes me.
narrative in media, regardless of how similar they are, stil remain unique to its medium, stories in books/graphic novels arent like stories in film and television. But video games, they havent pushed hard enough. Journey and heavey rain and the walking dead are a step in the right direction but one can't help but sense some hesitation on the side of developers and their target audience. Lets put a stop to medium leaching and pave our own way through this wonderful medium.
Now, how would you suggest we do that? And also, I don't see how this statement explains why you've hopped on everyone in this thread who enjoys story over gameplay and told them to drop their video games and go read a book or see a movie.
Narrative needs? You seem to be on a train of thought that no one else is riding. Games and other forms of entertainment or intellectual endeavors that involve stories are not mutually exclusive. Time management is manageable for those of us who have need for it. Are you suggesting that games shouldn't have stories because other media do? If so, your logic escapes me.
Lucky_Krystal
narrative in media, regardless of how similar they are, stil remain unique to its medium, stories in books/graphic novels arent like stories in film and television. But video games, they havent pushed hard enough. Journey and heavey rain and the walking dead are a step in the right direction but one can't help but sense some hesitation on the side of developers and their target audience. Lets put a stop to medium leaching and pave our own way through this wonderful medium.
Now, how would you suggest we do that? And also, I don't see how this statement explains why you've hopped on everyone in this thread who enjoys story over gameplay and told them to drop their video games and go read a book or see a movie.
Its a slow hot sunday and I honestly have nothing better to do than troll and critisize video games and their respective gamers. But fear not, come monday the balance wil be restored. But until then use this time to reflect on some of the greatest and worst video game stories this past two years.
I enjoy the experience as a whole and depending on the game, the story can compliment the game play. I love a good story in a game but if the gameplay is crap then It's difficult to care. It can also engage you into continuing. If I want to play an arcade game i'll play an arcade game if I want to play a game with heavy emphasis on story I'll play that. I don't see why all games should adapt to a single format. I must say though that narratives within games are becoming increasingly better within recent years, I look forward to seeing how it progresses within the years. It still has some cliches and issues within alot of game stories but still early years I suppose and can be easily fixed soon.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, but stories in video games are on the level of a Michael Bay movie or Jerry Springer. If that's your thing then good for you, but you have low standards for entertainment and story telling.
I'm not saying video game stories can't be entertaining, but I can't see why anyone would prefer a sub-par story over gameplay in a video game, especially when books, and to a lesser extent, movies, do it so much better.
story is useless. good story is good... but utterly unimportant to a game. if it's fun it's fun and it's good. end of story. anyone who disagrees will probably want to whine about some games they don't like, as examples of why games need a story. i will save you the trouble and just tell you now... your idea of games are not what games ARE. stop asking for stupid crud that is unimportant for GAMING. THANK YOU.
PetJel
Gaming has evolved over the years. It's not a straight dictionary term. Even though I agree the gameplay is more important than the story, it's fine if there are story dependant games. Different types of games can exist next to eachother.sure, i actually agree with you. just because that's true, however, i don't believe that one needs to hate on a game and want it to change or not exist, because it doesn't fit their paradigm of what makes a game and what makes it good to them.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, but stories in video games are on the level of a Michael Bay movie or Jerry Springer. If that's your thing then good for you, but you have low standards for entertainment and story telling.
I'm not saying video game stories can't be entertaining, but I can't see why anyone would prefer a sub-par story over gameplay in a video game, especially when books, and to a lesser extent, movies, do it so much better.
Bigboi500
I agree that videogame stories are overwhelmingly BAD, but that doesn't mean that they are pointless. Even the bad stories serve a very good purpose. It's not a matter of choosing stories or gameplay, the two affect each other. In many cases, a weak and shallow story has value in the same sense as a map has value. It indicates where players are supposed to go, so they aren't just wandering around aimlessly. And I already commented on another thing, the point that story (even a bad one) serves as a mere incentive to keep playing. That in many ways it's a lot like level upgrades. People get bored as hell if they aren't periodically rewarded for their efforts, and "story" fits into that mold by periodically giving people goals and rewards.
The reason is that gamers get more when there's a story. But personally just like bowserjr123 said " I'd rather watch a movie or a TV show really when story is what I am looking for.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, but stories in video games are on the level of a Michael Bay movie or Jerry Springer. If that's your thing then good for you, but you have low standards for entertainment and story telling.
I'm not saying video game stories can't be entertaining, but I can't see why anyone would prefer a sub-par story over gameplay in a video game, especially when books, and to a lesser extent, movies, do it so much better.
MrGeezer
I agree that videogame stories are overwhelmingly BAD, but that doesn't mean that they are pointless. Even the bad stories serve a very good purpose. It's not a matter of choosing stories or gameplay, the two affect each other. In many cases, a weak and shallow story has value in the same sense as a map has value. It indicates where players are supposed to go, so they aren't just wandering around aimlessly. And I already commented on another thing, the point that story (even a bad one) serves as a mere incentive to keep playing. That in many ways it's a lot like level upgrades. People get bored as hell if they aren't periodically rewarded for their efforts, and "story" fits into that mold by periodically giving people goals and rewards.Oh I agree totally, that's why I said they are still entertaining. Without them there wouldn't be a point to finishing a lot of games.
I enjoy them just like I do B-class movies. I just think there are a lot of people that over-rate the overall quality of them entirely.
Oh I agree totally, that's why I said they are still entertaining. Without them there wouldn't be a point to finishing a lot of games.
I enjoy them just like I do B-class movies. I just think there are a lot of people that over-rate the overall quality of them entirely.
Bigboi500
I agree with this. Video games stories can be really good. And they give you a nice incentive to finish the game. But I don't agree with the people that say that video game stories are as good as most of the movies out there. They're good, but video game stories sure aren't going to be snagging any Oscars or Golden Globes anytime soon.
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