What's your view on quitters?

I was recently playing Soul Calibur 4 on my older brother's account, because mine was suspended. (Microsoft won't accept ANY our family's credit cards, yet everything is spot on, and working fine with everything else. But, that's not the point of this topic. :lol: )

And since my brother doesn't play SC much anymore, he was around level 2 for online matchmaking, while I was in the level 60s, with a rather high winning percentage.

Now, as I begin to play on my brother's account, and I play against other people who are between levels 5 - 30, and (needless to say) I started owning them.

After a few matches, I noticed that I kept running into the same people. About 5 or 6 of them. And whenever I got even close to winning, they quit! No, this didn't happen once, it happened EVERY time. And for whatever reason, they still decide to fight me in the first place!

That's what I don't get. If you're gonna do nothing but quit whenever you're gonna lose, why even play in the first place? You can't possibly expect to win ALL the time. It's just nonsense. (Not to mention the amount of messages I got saying "Get laid" or "get a life". :lol: )

So this is my perspective. Anyone else with me here?

They are a nuisance. XBL should somehow impose penalties tageted toward quitters.

I think it's both hilarious and sad I just hate it when some games seem to punish both players for one of them having a piss-poor attitude. I think the other player should automatically get the win and/or any points associated with it.

I think it's both hilarious and sad I just hate it when some games seem to punish both players for one of them having a piss-poor attitude. I think the other player should automatically get the win and/or any points associated with it.

Archangel3371

Yeah, I get what you mean.

Just like in Gears 2. If the host leaves, everyone gets an incomplete match penalty, not just the host...Which is incredibly stupid.

They don't want to lose, so they quit. It makes sense, it's basic human nature. LiftedHeadshot

But is it also human nature to keep encountering the same foe (me) and quit every time when they already know that they're going to lose?

[QUOTE="LiftedHeadshot"]They don't want to lose, so they quit. It makes sense, it's basic human nature. MadVybz

But is it also human nature to keep encountering the same foe (me) and quit every time when they already know that they're going to lose?

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="LiftedHeadshot"]They don't want to lose, so they quit. It makes sense, it's basic human nature. LiftedHeadshot

But is it also human nature to keep encountering the same foe (me) and quit every time when they already know that they're going to lose?

You know, I kinda saw that coming after I posted. xD

Everyone starts from the bottom and when facing a level 60 "level 2" person, people are encouraged they have a chance. When you defeat them (badly) what's the point of finishing out a losing match? Ego boost? Let's suppose they didn't see your name, just idled about, then what? Is it required that everyone who becomes frustrated when facing a "lesser opponent" continue to lose horrendously? The comments your receiving are from people who think you started a new account or whatever just to humiliate people, which makes sense for their behavior, at least to me.jjtiebuckle

Did you not read the whole post? I clearly stated that I kept getting challenges from the same people over and over, and they still accepted and quit, every time.

And it isn't hard to the gamertag, it's in big, bold letters right in front of you. Not tucked away in some little corner for you to just overlook.

I think quitters never win

[QUOTE="jjtiebuckle"]Everyone starts from the bottom and when facing a level 60 "level 2" person, people are encouraged they have a chance. When you defeat them (badly) what's the point of finishing out a losing match? Ego boost? Let's suppose they didn't see your name, just idled about, then what? Is it required that everyone who becomes frustrated when facing a "lesser opponent" continue to lose horrendously? The comments your receiving are from people who think you started a new account or whatever just to humiliate people, which makes sense for their behavior, at least to me.MadVybz

Did you not read the whole post? I clearly stated that I kept getting challenges from the same people over and over, and they still accepted and quit, every time.

And it isn't hard to the gamertag, it's in big, bold letters right in front of you. Not tucked away in some little corner for you to just overlook.

I despise them. I don't play online much anymore because of stuff like that.

It annoys me so, so much.

Well even if the gamer tags are easy to see and supposedly the same person accepting the match, he has no right to play the game through just to inflate your ego. Just because you play against the same online ID doesn't mean you play against the same person.

I think when anyone starts out online they don't quit at some point, knowing their only holding up the other player(s) by continuing.

I quit discussing this kind of topic long ago.

Well even if the gamer tags are easy to see and supposedly the same person accepting the match, he has no right to play the game through just to inflate your ego. Just because you play against the same online ID doesn't mean you play against the same person.

I think when anyone starts out online they don't quit at some point, knowing their only holding up the other player(s) by continuing.

jjtiebuckle

What? If you're going to start a game then you should finish it regardless. If people have THAT much of a problem losing then they shouldn't play the game. It's just that simple. What's all this mumbo-jumbo about "inflating someone's ego" or "holding other players up"?

Quitters never win, and winners never quit. ;)

Well even if the gamer tags are easy to see and supposedly the same person accepting the match, he has no right to play the game through just to inflate your ego. Just because you play against the same online ID doesn't mean you play against the same person.

I think when anyone starts out online they don't quit at some point, knowing their only holding up the other player(s) by continuing.

jjtiebuckle

What? I'm talking more along the lines of "If all you're gonna do is quit, why even play in the first place."

Not "I'm pissed off at the people who refuse to get owned by me."

I'm not mad in any way, shape or form, nor do I feel special when I get 3 straight perfects. All I'm saying is, why play if all you're gonna do is quit?

I also hate quitters, most annoying in rock band/guitar hero games. So annoying when I get a perfect start and they just quit because they are rubish.wigan_gamer

Yeah. I've only played a few matches of NHL online, but most of those were disappointments 'cause the opponent quit just before the ending, I would have won... lol. Well, I was doing that only for the achievement anyways, and finally I found a dude who finished the game with me haha.

I would imagine the reason you kept getting the same 5 or 6 people is because Soul Calibur is because the amount of people who play soul calibur online is very small when compared to other games so that's who it kept pairing you with on quick match. They would have kept quitting as it would have been pretty obvious to them that you are not a level 2 so it is in no way a fair matchup, If it were me I'd have probably quit too as matchmaking is meant to give you players with a similar skill level and when someone who is supposed to be level 60 goes on an alt. to get to level 2 then makes the whole game totally unfairbraindead_hero

Everything you said makes sense, but the fact still remains that even thoguh they already knew I was good, they decided to play me over and over, and quit, over and over. It didn't even make me mad, it was more funny that anything else. What's the point of starting a match if you're just gonna quit every time?

[QUOTE="braindead_hero"]I would imagine the reason you kept getting the same 5 or 6 people is because Soul Calibur is because the amount of people who play soul calibur online is very small when compared to other games so that's who it kept pairing you with on quick match. They would have kept quitting as it would have been pretty obvious to them that you are not a level 2 so it is in no way a fair matchup, If it were me I'd have probably quit too as matchmaking is meant to give you players with a similar skill level and when someone who is supposed to be level 60 goes on an alt. to get to level 2 then makes the whole game totally unfairMadVybz

Everything you said makes sense, but the fact still remains that even thoguh they already knew I was good, they decided to play me over and over, and quit, over and over. It didn't even make me mad, it was more funny that anything else. What's the point of starting a match if you're just gonna quit every time?

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="braindead_hero"]I would imagine the reason you kept getting the same 5 or 6 people is because Soul Calibur is because the amount of people who play soul calibur online is very small when compared to other games so that's who it kept pairing you with on quick match. They would have kept quitting as it would have been pretty obvious to them that you are not a level 2 so it is in no way a fair matchup, If it were me I'd have probably quit too as matchmaking is meant to give you players with a similar skill level and when someone who is supposed to be level 60 goes on an alt. to get to level 2 then makes the whole game totally unfairbraindead_hero

Everything you said makes sense, but the fact still remains that even thoguh they already knew I was good, they decided to play me over and over, and quit, over and over. It didn't even make me mad, it was more funny that anything else. What's the point of starting a match if you're just gonna quit every time?

Have you actually played SC 4's matchmaking?

Even in quick matchmaking, when you get paired up with an opponent, you still have to press the 'ready' button to start the match. And I always intentionally wait for my challenger to get ready before I do, to see if they're really up for the fight. But for whatever reason, whether it be sore losing, or just plain trolling (it would be, in a sense), it still doesn't make sense to even play if all you're gonna do is quit.

[QUOTE="braindead_hero"][QUOTE="MadVybz"]

Everything you said makes sense, but the fact still remains that even thoguh they already knew I was good, they decided to play me over and over, and quit, over and over. It didn't even make me mad, it was more funny that anything else. What's the point of starting a match if you're just gonna quit every time?

MadVybz

Have you actually played SC 4's matchmaking?

Even in quick matchmaking, when you get paired up with an opponent, you still have to press the 'ready' button to start the match. And I always intentionally wait for my challenger to get ready before I do, to see if they're really up for the fight. But for whatever reason, whether it be sore losing, or just plain trolling (it would be, in a sense), it still doesn't make sense to even play if all you're gonna do is quit.

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="braindead_hero"] I would imagine they were hitting the quickplay or matchmaking option, so they were not specifically choosing to play you it's just with the relatively low amount of people playing the games the matchmaking decided you were a fair opponent (based on your level 2 skill level) and kept putting them in a game against you, they saw it was you and thought 'oh no not him again - QUIT' braindead_hero

Have you actually played SC 4's matchmaking?

Even in quick matchmaking, when you get paired up with an opponent, you still have to press the 'ready' button to start the match. And I always intentionally wait for my challenger to get ready before I do, to see if they're really up for the fight. But for whatever reason, whether it be sore losing, or just plain trolling (it would be, in a sense), it still doesn't make sense to even play if all you're gonna do is quit.

Well, as explained in my original post, my account got suspended because MS won't accept ANY of my family's credit cards.

And yes, you have a choice to ready up, or leave the room that you got matched with.

Lastly, level 60 actually isnt high at all in SC 4. The highest level you can reach is 1,000. But the highest I've ever witness first-hand is about 350 or so. Although the gap between 1 - 60 is quite diverse (skill wise), it's still nothing compared to those higher up on the leaderboards.

But, IMO, level means nothing. I look at a person's winning ratio before the level. Unless of course the person is like, level 5 with 20 wins and 10 losses. That's far too early to make judgements.

[QUOTE="braindead_hero"][QUOTE="MadVybz"]

Everything you said makes sense, but the fact still remains that even thoguh they already knew I was good, they decided to play me over and over, and quit, over and over. It didn't even make me mad, it was more funny that anything else. What's the point of starting a match if you're just gonna quit every time?

MadVybz

Have you actually played SC 4's matchmaking?

Even in quick matchmaking, when you get paired up with an opponent, you still have to press the 'ready' button to start the match. And I always intentionally wait for my challenger to get ready before I do, to see if they're really up for the fight. But for whatever reason, whether it be sore losing, or just plain trolling (it would be, in a sense), it still doesn't make sense to even play if all you're gonna do is quit.

Oh, but it does. After playing numerous quitters, I think I know now why they do what they do. They are so convinced they're good at the game, so every time they get the chance to play a very good player, they decide to take up the challenge, believing that they can definitely win. If they win they get their ego boost, if they loose they can always chicken out and quit, preserving their precious ego from being battered. That way it's "as if" they never lost. Lol, the psyche of the quitter, maybe a future study domain for psychologists.

Ok, my examples weren't the greatest, but here's the answer- the reason people quit is because losing isn't fun. Plain and simple. It doesn't matter if they knew or didn't know they were playing the same person 5-6 times, they didn't accept the match to lose they accepted to play the game. Obviously no one would play a game they could never win or have a chance, but online matches warrant you at least that 1% chance.jjtiebuckle

Well, here's an easy counte to that - STOP PLAYING VIDEO GAMES. It is IMPOSSIBLE to play videogames, and not lose. It's a simple fact. And someone can't accept that fact, they need to find a new hobby or something.

[QUOTE="jjtiebuckle"]Ok, my examples weren't the greatest, but here's the answer- the reason people quit is because losing isn't fun. Plain and simple. It doesn't matter if they knew or didn't know they were playing the same person 5-6 times, they didn't accept the match to lose they accepted to play the game. Obviously no one would play a game they could never win or have a chance, but online matches warrant you at least that 1% chance.MadVybz

Well, here's an easy counte to that - STOP PLAYING VIDEO GAMES. It is IMPOSSIBLE to play videogames, and not lose. It's a simple fact. And someone can't accept that fact, they need to find a new hobby or something.

Ok, my examples weren't the greatest, but here's the answer- the reason people quit is because losing isn't fun. Plain and simple. It doesn't matter if they knew or didn't know they were playing the same person 5-6 times, they didn't accept the match to lose they accepted to play the game. Obviously no one would play a game they could never win or have a chance, but online matches warrant you at least that 1% chance.jjtiebuckle

Well I can't imagine many people do like losing but so what that's not a valid excuse to just quit especially right at the very end of the game where they would have to rush and disconnect within seconds before it registers. Plus it seems like a total waste of time getting everything back up and running to play again when you can simply wait 2 seconds and move on to the next match. Also the thing about levels is that everyone starts at level 1 so regardless some people are just going to be that much better then others. The thing about quitters is they don't allow people to properly level up so that they can move on to the more experienced level of players.

It annoys me so, so much.

sinistergoggles

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="jjtiebuckle"]Ok, my examples weren't the greatest, but here's the answer- the reason people quit is because losing isn't fun. Plain and simple. It doesn't matter if they knew or didn't know they were playing the same person 5-6 times, they didn't accept the match to lose they accepted to play the game. Obviously no one would play a game they could never win or have a chance, but online matches warrant you at least that 1% chance.muthsera666

Well, here's an easy counte to that - STOP PLAYING VIDEO GAMES. It is IMPOSSIBLE to play videogames, and not lose. It's a simple fact. And someone can't accept that fact, they need to find a new hobby or something.

You mean like FPS and action games?

In campaign, a death actually is considered a 'loss', when you think about it. Back in arcades, when you died, you got the infamous "YOU LOSE" or "GAME OVER" screen.

As for MP in those genres, you actually can lose. And I've seen many people make big deals out losses. Most of them funny, but some, rather scary and required some pity. :|

[QUOTE="muthsera666"]No it's not.... There are some games where losing isn't really a problem. You might die sometimes, but you don't lose...MadVybz

You mean like FPS and action games?

In campaign, a death actually is considered a 'loss', when you think about it. Back in arcades, when you died, you got the infamous "YOU LOSE" or "GAME OVER" screen.

Eh. Those aren't loses as much as setbacks. You only lose if you stop playing completely. The arcades used to make you lose, yes, but we're talking modern games (I assume).

I just mean this as a counter to your statement that if you get extremely angry when losing, you should quit gaming. I hate fighting games because I think the combo memorization is ridiculous. I used to get extremely upset when I lost matches. Then I quit playing fighters. I don't get nearly upset when I play games now...

Depends what games. If it's a 1 on 1, leaving is just unsportsmanlike. Same goes with a game where nobody can rejoin once the game has started (I don't understand how there are so many leavers in DotA. It's like they just scour the game list just to piss people off).

But with RTS, I'd say anything goes. In a lot of them, the other team leaving usually means a victory for their opponents. Not gonna lie, but sometimes it feels like, in a long game of COH, you're just fighting each other til the other gets tired and leaves. But leaving your team mate to burn afterwards is unnacceptable. I'd stick with a guy til the end even if we knew we were losing, but ask him if we should just get the hell out and not prolong our suffering :P.

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="muthsera666"]No it's not.... There are some games where losing isn't really a problem. You might die sometimes, but you don't lose...muthsera666

You mean like FPS and action games?

In campaign, a death actually is considered a 'loss', when you think about it. Back in arcades, when you died, you got the infamous "YOU LOSE" or "GAME OVER" screen.

Eh. Those aren't loses as much as setbacks. You only lose if you stop playing completely. The arcades used to make you lose, yes, but we're talking modern games (I assume).

I just mean this as a counter to your statement that if you get extremely angry when losing, you should quit gaming. I hate fighting games because I think the combo memorization is ridiculous. I used to get extremely upset when I lost matches. Then I quit playing fighters. I don't get nearly upset when I play games now...

IMO, the fighting genre is the most time consuming when it comes to being the best you can possibly be.

If you buy a fighting game and plan to win, you're gonna have to put time and effort into it. If you wanna win, but you can't be bothered, you might as well not have gotten the game in the first place.

IMO, the fighting genre is the most time consuming when it comes to being the best you can possibly be.

If you buy a fighting game and plan to win, you're gonna have to put time and effort into it. If you wanna win, but you can't be bothered, you might as well not have gotten the game in the first place.