What do you think are the main reasosn the GC was a disater for Nintendo?

The main reason was the PS2.

Other reasons are that aside from some Sega games and some Resident Evil it had barely any good third-party support. Aside from that, the GameCube media was really small, only 1.4 GB, unlike the PS2 DVDs which were 4.7 GB, so in games like Resident Evil 4 cutscenes had to be scripted animations instead of pre-rendered cutscenes like in the PS2 version which meant the GameCube was longer and harder to developer for. FMV sequences and audio files had to be compressed to fit on the disc which reduced their quality. Basically it had the same problem as the PS Vita: Nintendo didn't want piracy so they used their own propriety (is that the right word?) media.

[QUOTE="NiKva"]I don't see how 2nd place is a disaster. 1. Playstation 2 2. Gamecube 3. XboxSpinnerweb

The Sega 32X was a disaster. The Phillips CD-i was a disaster. The Gizmondo was a disaster. Gamecube doesn't come near the term "disaster".

[QUOTE="Spinnerweb"][QUOTE="NiKva"]I don't see how 2nd place is a disaster. 1. Playstation 2 2. Gamecube 3. XboxEmerald_Warrior

The Sega 32X was a disaster. The Phillips CD-i was a disaster. The Gizmondo was a disaster. Gamecube doesn't come near the term "disaster".

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="Spinnerweb"] It's a disaster because it caused the biggest financial loss Nintendo ever had, that's why it's a disaster.nintendoboy16

The Sega 32X was a disaster. The Phillips CD-i was a disaster. The Gizmondo was a disaster. Gamecube doesn't come near the term "disaster".

GC production was halted at some point duing it's life span due to poor sales tho.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

The Sega 32X was a disaster. The Phillips CD-i was a disaster. The Gizmondo was a disaster. Gamecube doesn't come near the term "disaster".

nameless12345

GC production was halted at some point duing it's life span due to poor sales tho.

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Besides, if GameCube was a disaster, it would have been cut out of production sooner than later.nintendoboy16

GC production was halted at some point duing it's life span due to poor sales tho.

To be honest, even the "disastrous" consoles weren't such a disaster as some portray them. For example the Saturn sold only 2 million in the US but it was supported untill 1999 and the Jaguar was getting officially licensed games up untill 2000 (Skyhammer) despite selling only 250k units or so. The 3DO didn't sell all that bad either considering it's price and lack of advertising and that they had a successor in the works (M2). CD-I also sold decently for it's high price and purpose (edutainment/multi-media system). They even planned a successor to the Jaguar which shows how determined it's producers were.

It's also not true that decent sales mean a financial success (for example MS probably lost more money on the Xbox than Sega lost on the Saturn; Sega just couldn't cover the losses as well as MS did).

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

GC production was halted at some point duing it's life span due to poor sales tho.

nameless12345

To be honest, even the "disastrous" consoles weren't such a disaster as some portray them. For example the Saturn sold only 2 million in the US but it was supported untill 1999 and the Jaguar was getting officially licensed games up untill 2000 (Skyhammer) despite selling only 250k units or so. The 3DO didn't sell all that bad either considering it's price and lack of advertising and that they had a successor in the works (M2). CD-I also sold decently for it's high price and purpose (edutainment/multi-media system). They even planned a successor to the Jaguar which shows how determined it's producers were.

It's also not true that decent sales mean a financial success (for example MS probably lost more money on the Xbox than Sega lost on the Saturn; Sega just couldn't cover the losses as well as MS did).

So you're saying that the Gamecube is indeed a disaster, but at the same time you're saying that consoles that did far worse than Gamcube aren't disasters...huh?!

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] But it came back, unlike the "disastrous" consoles.Emerald_Warrior

To be honest, even the "disastrous" consoles weren't such a disaster as some portray them. For example the Saturn sold only 2 million in the US but it was supported untill 1999 and the Jaguar was getting officially licensed games up untill 2000 (Skyhammer) despite selling only 250k units or so. The 3DO didn't sell all that bad either considering it's price and lack of advertising and that they had a successor in the works (M2). CD-I also sold decently for it's high price and purpose (edutainment/multi-media system). They even planned a successor to the Jaguar which shows how determined it's producers were.

It's also not true that decent sales mean a financial success (for example MS probably lost more money on the Xbox than Sega lost on the Saturn; Sega just couldn't cover the losses as well as MS did).

So you're saying that the Gamecube is indeed a disaster, but at the same time you're saying that consoles that did far worse than Gamcube aren't disasters...huh?!

I'm surprised people are saying the GC did well in this thread. The console not only finished in last place in terms of sales last gen by a very large margin gameguy6700

A large margin? It sold like 2-3 million less then the Xbox.

I wouldn't call it a disaster. The DC and Saturn could be called disasters because they had to end before they were planned too. Not really the same thing for the gamecube. The reason it wasn't as successful as Nintendo's other consoles is probably because it had to compete on even footing against Microsoft and Sony when they had a lot better marketing then Nintendo did.

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] But it came back, unlike the "disastrous" consoles.Emerald_Warrior

To be honest, even the "disastrous" consoles weren't such a disaster as some portray them. For example the Saturn sold only 2 million in the US but it was supported untill 1999 and the Jaguar was getting officially licensed games up untill 2000 (Skyhammer) despite selling only 250k units or so. The 3DO didn't sell all that bad either considering it's price and lack of advertising and that they had a successor in the works (M2). CD-I also sold decently for it's high price and purpose (edutainment/multi-media system). They even planned a successor to the Jaguar which shows how determined it's producers were.

It's also not true that decent sales mean a financial success (for example MS probably lost more money on the Xbox than Sega lost on the Saturn; Sega just couldn't cover the losses as well as MS did).

So you're saying that the Gamecube is indeed a disaster, but at the same time you're saying that consoles that did far worse than Gamcube aren't disasters...huh?!

I didn't say GC was a disaster per-se, it just didn't sell terribly well in comparison to the competition and expectations. Out of all the "big" Nintendo home consoles, GC sold the worst. But they still managed to sell their 1st party games in decent amounts and, according to some talks, it was a profitable system since it didn't cost much to make.

The low GC sales eventually led Nintendo to make the Wii the way it was (i.e. reliant on the unique controller and technically a small upgrade over the Cube).

Provide one link to the word "Disater". ONE. "Posting Solely To Annoy Other Users" *CLICK*

:lol:

Obvious Troll is OBVIOUS. 'Bye.

The GC was a disaster because Nintendo got the marketing all wrong (the irony) since that's the foundation of the company. Marketing a purple console is ludicrous unless they were trying to market towards Prince fans. The console wasn't cool or had street cred like the PS1 and PS2. The main problem was Nintendo didn't cater for the market. People wanted to play more violent and adult games but Nintendo didn't give the gamers what they want. The biggest problem with Nintendo is that they're image is targeted towards children and lets face it Mario is getting old and we're not 5 years old anymore. Nintendo needs to evolve.

21.75 million Gamecube consoles sold. The lowest of any Nintendo console. The fact that mini DVDs were used didn't help. The launch color Purple and the CUBE with a handle. The design and the look of the console does matter.

21.75 million Gamecube consoles sold. The lowest of any Nintendo console. The fact that mini DVDs were used didn't help. The launch color Purple and the CUBE with a handle. The design and the look of the console does matter.

Megavideogamer

[QUOTE="Megavideogamer"]

21.75 million Gamecube consoles sold. The lowest of any Nintendo console. The fact that mini DVDs were used didn't help. The launch color Purple and the CUBE with a handle. The design and the look of the console does matter.

Heirren

I own one, it does look quite handsome at the top of my console shelf.

The GC was a disaster because Nintendo got the marketing all wrong (the irony) since that's the foundation of the company. Marketing a purple console is ludicrous unless they were trying to market towards Prince fans. The console wasn't cool or had street cred like the PS1 and PS2. The main problem was Nintendo didn't cater for the market. People wanted to play more violent and adult games but Nintendo didn't give the gamers what they want. The biggest problem with Nintendo is that they're image is targeted towards children and lets face it Mario is getting old and we're not 5 years old anymore. Nintendo needs to evolve.

roleplayer2004

I think the GC commercials were great, better than PS2 ones:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHo0anLsVP4

Also, the purple Cube is easily one of the best-looking consoles for my taste and I don't think games need to be violent to be enjoyable.

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Megavideogamer"]

21.75 million Gamecube consoles sold. The lowest of any Nintendo console. The fact that mini DVDs were used didn't help. The launch color Purple and the CUBE with a handle. The design and the look of the console does matter.

Emerald_Warrior

I own one, it does look quite handsome at the top of my console shelf.

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[QUOTE="Heirren"] I think the black GameCube is a better looking console than both the ps2 and Xbox.Heirren

I own one, it does look quite handsome at the top of my console shelf.

I kind of like the PS2 slim, but not as much as the black gamecube design. The Xbox was just ugly IMO. Can't get a much less creative or streamlined desgin then that giant black box. They should've just marketed the black version of the GC instead of purple though. My black GC is one of the best looking consoles I own.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

To be honest, even the "disastrous" consoles weren't such a disaster as some portray them. For example the Saturn sold only 2 million in the US but it was supported untill 1999 and the Jaguar was getting officially licensed games up untill 2000 (Skyhammer) despite selling only 250k units or so. The 3DO didn't sell all that bad either considering it's price and lack of advertising and that they had a successor in the works (M2). CD-I also sold decently for it's high price and purpose (edutainment/multi-media system). They even planned a successor to the Jaguar which shows how determined it's producers were.

It's also not true that decent sales mean a financial success (for example MS probably lost more money on the Xbox than Sega lost on the Saturn; Sega just couldn't cover the losses as well as MS did).

KillerCannonade

So you're saying that the Gamecube is indeed a disaster, but at the same time you're saying that consoles that did far worse than Gamcube aren't disasters...huh?!

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

I own one, it does look quite handsome at the top of my console shelf.

magnax1

I kind of like the PS2 slim, but not as much as the black gamecube design. The Xbox was just ugly IMO. Can't get a much less creative or streamlined desgin then that giant black box. They should've just marketed the black version of the GC instead of purple though. My black GC is one of the best looking consoles I own.

Original PS2, Kind of cool looking and kind up rigidy and unappealing at the same time. Looked cool with the original stand standing it up though.

Gamecube, tiny and looked like something you wanted to take to your friends house or from room to room to play. Not ugly or pretty. just so so. The indego color was cool, different from the usual black consoles are.

Xbox, was not pretty but was heavy and looked like a hulk...you knew it had power under the hood.

Dreamcast, probably the best looking console of its generation. An off white, not too blocky or bulky, had cruves up front and just looked like a nice sysetm overall. Was definitely the loudest of the 4...I could put Code Veronica in and the fan would zoom like a jet, lol.

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

I own one, it does look quite handsome at the top of my console shelf.

magnax1

I kind of like the PS2 slim, but not as much as the black gamecube design. The Xbox was just ugly IMO. Can't get a much less creative or streamlined desgin then that giant black box. They should've just marketed the black version of the GC instead of purple though. My black GC is one of the best looking consoles I own.

I like the XBox design. It's very 90s looking (even thought it's a 2000s console, lol). The black and the neon-green with the giant "X" just screams 90s extreme style to me, so it looks good as far as I'm concerned.

It was a success. Unless I'm mistaken, Nintendo made profit off of it from the first unit sold.

It was a success. Unless I'm mistaken, Nintendo made profit off of it from the first unit sold.

GamerEye

*cough cough*

Nintendo sold the GameCube at a loss, actually.

I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally, it was the N64 that was the main reason I avoided the GameCube.

simply put, the N64 was just such a useless system (for me personally) that I converted away from Ninty and over to Sony (PS1 remains my all time favorite system, and there is nothing else that comes remotely close)

I avoided the NGC for so long due to my N64 experience, that I wrongly assumed it had the flaws. It didn't. The GameCube was fantastic.

It wasn't really disaster but it didn't fair as well as it's competitors and previous consoles because it relied mostly on Nintendo's staple franchises, ignored online gaming, and had no dvd player.

The Wii succeeded because it was significantly cheaper than the competition, had better marketing, was something that looked brand new and fun, the console was a lot better looking, came packed with a free game and went for a broader audience rather than trying to just appease to Nintendo's already existing fan base.

[QUOTE="GamerEye"]

It was a success. Unless I'm mistaken, Nintendo made profit off of it from the first unit sold.

Spinnerweb

*cough cough*

Nintendo sold the GameCube at a loss, actually.

Are you sure that's correct, because everything else I've heard said that they made a profit.

[QUOTE="Spinnerweb"]

[QUOTE="GamerEye"]

It was a success. Unless I'm mistaken, Nintendo made profit off of it from the first unit sold.

magnax1

*cough cough*

Nintendo sold the GameCube at a loss, actually.

Are you sure that's correct, because everything else I've heard said that they made a profit.

The link links to another message board, and the link they have quoted, links to a non-existant article. Not exactly a solid source, there.

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

[QUOTE="Spinnerweb"]

*cough cough*

Nintendo sold the GameCube at a loss, actually.

Emerald_Warrior

Are you sure that's correct, because everything else I've heard said that they made a profit.

The link links to another message board, and the link they have quoted, links to a non-existant article. Not exactly a solid source, there.

Yeah, lol. I'd expect that they wouldn't make a big profit from it because it was only 200$ and was a pretty powerful console for the time it was released.

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

[QUOTE="Spinnerweb"]

*cough cough*

Nintendo sold the GameCube at a loss, actually.

Emerald_Warrior

Are you sure that's correct, because everything else I've heard said that they made a profit.

The link links to another message board, and the link they have quoted, links to a non-existant article. Not exactly a solid source, there.

I can't speak for everyone, but for me personally, it was the N64 that was the main reason I avoided the GameCube.

simply put, the N64 was just such a useless system (for me personally) that I converted away from Ninty and over to Sony (PS1 remains my all time favorite system, and there is nothing else that comes remotely close)

I avoided the NGC for so long due to my N64 experience, that I wrongly assumed it had the flaws. It didn't. The GameCube was fantastic.

TheKungFool

It was the other way around for me - I was satisfied with the N64 (except the slowdown in some games annoyed me) but GC left a lot to be desired for me.

Well if it hasn't been said, Nintendo made money on every Gamecube they sold, unlike Sony and Microsoft that continue to take losses on their consoles. Nintendo made money.

There were also amazing games for the Gamecube. It might have failed on the sales end in overall numbers. But a disaster? No, no...no.

Why the hell is this thread still up?! It was created by a troll, its whole creation was a trolling attempt, and anyone with half a brain knows the GC wasn't a failure in any sense of the word. Mods, end this tread now, please.

Are you sure that's correct, because everything else I've heard said that they made a profit.

Shenmue_Jehuty

The link links to another message board, and the link they have quoted, links to a non-existant article. Not exactly a solid source, there.

Why the hell is this thread still up?! It was created by a troll, its whole creation was a trolling attempt, and anyone with half a brain knows the GC wasn't a failure in any sense of the word. Mods, end this tread now, please.

Shenmue_Jehuty

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Why the hell is this thread still up?! It was created by a troll, its whole creation was a trolling attempt, and anyone with half a brain knows the GC wasn't a failure in any sense of the word. Mods, end this tread now, please.

Shockwave-DASH

You won't be getting an answer... TC's been banned.

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

Why the hell is this thread still up?! It was created by a troll, its whole creation was a trolling attempt, and anyone with half a brain knows the GC wasn't a failure in any sense of the word. Mods, end this tread now, please.

turtlethetaffer

You won't be getting an answer... TC's been banned.

Thank God! Although, this victory will be short lived; the TC is like Dracula in Castlevania, he just keeps on coming back over and over no matter how many times you get rid of him.