The Nintendo 64 had Mario 64... Nuff said.

I'm glad you liked Mario 64, although I may be in the minority, that is my least favorite Mario game ever made minus 2 and SMW2. So, although I respect your opinion I for one do not think that Mario 64 was one of the best 64 games although I just had this arguement a couple days ago on this same forum. The 64 did have some great games, but that doesnt necessarily make them any "better" than someone elses favorite games on the PS.

My favorite N64 games were, Goldeneye 007, Pefect Dark, Conkers Bad Fur Day, Turok 2, Kobe Bryany Courtside, and a couple others that were some of my favorite games still to this day. So although the 64 had a couple games that were argueably better games overall, a handful of games still does not beat the greatness of a library over 6 times its size.

Foe every 1 good game on the N64 there were 3 on the PS.

While I agree that Mario 64 is an incredible game, FFVII is in no way overrated. It's one of those highly acclaimed games that deserves all the hype and cred it receives.

This was the last time Nintendo launched with a Mario game. Until this years Wii U. Having Mario at launch was a key part of the N64 sucess.

While I agree that Mario 64 is an incredible game, FFVII is in no way overrated. It's one of those highly acclaimed games that deserves all the hype and cred it receives.

Shenmue_Jehuty

PS1 has Final Fantasy VII and IX. 'Nuff said.

It also Had OoT AND MM... Plus a lot of other games.

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While I agree that Mario 64 is an incredible game, FFVII is in no way overrated. It's one of those highly acclaimed games that deserves all the hype and cred it receives.

Dj-Dampleaf

SM64 was deff. a system seller, especially from the launch games.

SM64, GE007, OoT, Banjo and Pokemon Stadium were all system sellers.

Much like Crash, FFVII, MGS, Tekken, Gran Turismo and even Tomb Raider and Resi Evil were system sellers too.

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

While I agree that Mario 64 is an incredible game, FFVII is in no way overrated. It's one of those highly acclaimed games that deserves all the hype and cred it receives.

Dj-Dampleaf

It's a Kanji character, not scratches:(

I'd say "nice blog," but this would also make for a terrible blog post.

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

While I agree that Mario 64 is an incredible game, FFVII is in no way overrated. It's one of those highly acclaimed games that deserves all the hype and cred it receives.

nameless12345

SM64 was deff. a system seller, especially from the launch games.

SM64, GE007, OoT, Banjo and Pokemon Stadium were all system sellers.

Much like Crash, FFVII, MGS, Tekken, Gran Turismo and even Tomb Raider and Resi Evil were system sellers too.

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

While I agree that Mario 64 is an incredible game, FFVII is in no way overrated. It's one of those highly acclaimed games that deserves all the hype and cred it receives.

Shenmue_Jehuty

It's a Kanji character, not scratches:(

I won't discount the PS, I was deeply in love with Crash, Spyro, FF and some others but the N64 games always just had such a special feeling to me, hell it's still my favorite system released to date.

The PS1 had some of the greatest and highly acclaimed RPG series on it, along with a bunch of great platformers such as Spyro and Crash; while these are not on the level of quality of Mario IMO quantity of quality beats quality in small numbers as far as I'm concerned. The N64 had some damn good games on it, but I think the Playstation had more.

The PS1 had some of the greatest and highly acclaimed RPG series on it, along with a bunch of great platformers such as Spyro and Crash; while these are not on the level of quality of Mario IMO quantity of quality beats quality in small numbersas far as I'm concerned. The N64 had some damn good games on it, but I think the Playstation had more.

MLBknights58

Exactly, I feel the same way. Great is Great but more greatness is even greater... lol

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[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"]One game is not that good that you would buy a whole entire systemDj-Dampleaf

SM64 was deff. a system seller, especially from the launch games.

SM64, GE007, OoT, Banjo and Pokemon Stadium were all system sellers.

Much like Crash, FFVII, MGS, Tekken, Gran Turismo and even Tomb Raider and Resi Evil were system sellers too.

Um, it is the same thing. System seller, as in they "sell" you the "system" because you really want to play that particular game, hence the name system seller. Many people bought an N64 to play Super Mario 64 or Zelda OOT, they're system sellers. The same way many people bought a PS1 to play Final Fantasy VII or Metal Gear Solid.

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

SM64 was deff. a system seller, especially from the launch games.

SM64, GE007, OoT, Banjo and Pokemon Stadium were all system sellers.

Much like Crash, FFVII, MGS, Tekken, Gran Turismo and even Tomb Raider and Resi Evil were system sellers too.

Emerald_Warrior

Um, it is the same thing. System seller, as in they "sell" you the "system" because you really want to play that particular game, hence the name system seller. Many people bought an N64 to play Super Mario 64 or Zelda OOT, they're system sellers. The same way many people bought a PS1 to play Final Fantasy VII or Metal Gear Solid.

Oh, I see what you're saying, now. But I doubt many people at all buy a system and just one game without ever buying another game. Well unless you bought a crappy system like the Xavix Port or Mattel Hyperscan.

Oh, I see what you're saying, now. But I doubt many people at all buy a system and just one game without ever buying another game. Well unless you bought a crappy system like the Xavix Port or Mattel Hyperscan.

Emerald_Warrior

I see both of your points and I think you guys are disagreeing about different things. I really dont think either of you mean that they buy the console just for one game with no intentions of ever buying another game for the entire time the console still has games being made for it. Your arguements are similar though that a system seller is a system seller. I dont think I know of anybody that ever bought a console just for one game overall though.... (however I know of a few people who bought a console for a single game AFTER the console stopped producing games, but not new especially near launch)

For example I bought a PS3 for Assassins Creed, but I didnt like it at first... however, I loved my PS3 and got different games I DID like after I got that game. SO yeah, it was a "system seller" of sorts, but I would have bought the console eventually either way... so.

Anyways, I really like the Assassins Creed series now, I was just really into online gameplay at the time, so I didnt give the first one a fair chance until a year or two after it released. I actually went back to give it another chance because of how awesome I remember it looking and thinking to myself "yeah the PS3 is going to rock!" Well, that and the fact that I dont like playing games out of rotation... and I bought 2 and still had not gotten to the first. Then I bought Brotherhood and still had not played 2, I got halfway through 2 when I got revealations.... lol.. anyways, off topic end/ :P

** edited because ** your conversation already beat me to the punch... lol

I see both of your points and I think you guys are disagreeing about different things. I really dont think either of you mean that they buy the console just for one game with no intentions of ever buying another game for the entire time the console still has games being made for it. Your arguements are similar though that a system seller is a system seller. I dont think I know of anybody that ever bought a console just for one game overall though.... (however I know of a few people who bought a console for a single game AFTER the console stopped producing games, but not new especially near launch)

For example I bought a PS3 for Assassins Creed, but I didnt like it at first... however, I loved my PS3 and got different games I DID like after I got that game. SO yeah, it was a "system seller" of sorts, but I would have bought the console eventually either way... so.

Anyways, I really like the Assassins Creed series now, I was just really into online gameplay at the time, so I didnt give the first one a fair chance until a year or two after it released. I actually went back to give it another chance because of how awesome I remember it looking and thinking to myself "yeah the PS3 is going to rock!" Well, that and the fact that I dont like playing games out of rotation... and I bought 2 and still had not gotten to the first. Then I bought Brotherhood and still had not played 2, I got halfway through 2 when I got revealations.... lol.. anyways, off topic end/ :P

WitIsWisdom

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Oh, I see what you're saying, now. But I doubt many people at all buy a system and just one game without ever buying another game. Well unless you bought a crappy system like the Xavix Port or Mattel Hyperscan.

Dj-Dampleaf

Have you played one? It's glitchy as hell and barely works as it's intended to. And the game library is tiny. I don't know the exact number, I could Google it ,but what's the point? I know you can count the game libary on your fingers.

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

Oh, I see what you're saying, now. But I doubt many people at all buy a system and just one game without ever buying another game. Well unless you bought a crappy system like the Xavix Port or Mattel Hyperscan.

Emerald_Warrior

Have you played one? It's glitchy as hell and barely works as it's intended to. And the game library is tiny. I don't know the exact number, I could Google it ,but what's the point? I know you can count the game libary on your fingers.

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

Oh, I see what you're saying, now. But I doubt many people at all buy a system and just one game without ever buying another game. Well unless you bought a crappy system like the Xavix Port or Mattel Hyperscan.

Emerald_Warrior

Have you played one? It's glitchy as hell and barely works as it's intended to. And the game library is tiny. I don't know the exact number, I could Google it ,but what's the point? I know you can count the game libary on your fingers.

[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

I see both of your points and I think you guys are disagreeing about different things. I really dont think either of you mean that they buy the console just for one game with no intentions of ever buying another game for the entire time the console still has games being made for it. Your arguements are similar though that a system seller is a system seller. I dont think I know of anybody that ever bought a console just for one game overall though.... (however I know of a few people who bought a console for a single game AFTER the console stopped producing games, but not new especially near launch)

For example I bought a PS3 for Assassins Creed, but I didnt like it at first... however, I loved my PS3 and got different games I DID like after I got that game. SO yeah, it was a "system seller" of sorts, but I would have bought the console eventually either way... so.

Anyways, I really like the Assassins Creed series now, I was just really into online gameplay at the time, so I didnt give the first one a fair chance until a year or two after it released. I actually went back to give it another chance because of how awesome I remember it looking and thinking to myself "yeah the PS3 is going to rock!" Well, that and the fact that I dont like playing games out of rotation... and I bought 2 and still had not gotten to the first. Then I bought Brotherhood and still had not played 2, I got halfway through 2 when I got revealations.... lol.. anyways, off topic end/ :P

Dj-Dampleaf

Yes, now I have beaten the first 3. 1, 2, and Brotherhood. I am currently playing through Revealations now, but I also just got the World of Wrcraft expansion that I swore I wouldnt buy, and I am still playing NBA 2k12 and now 2K13 is out... lol

I am also playing through Final Fantasy on the origins collection, and also just got the God of War saga for PS3...

Im also only about halfway through Warriors Orochi III....

My problem lies with the fact I have way too many games I am playing right now. Add that with two young kids, and full time college, and I might beat Revealations a year from the time I pick up Assassins Creed 3 (which I have pre ordered... sigh...)

I have also gotten away from playing a ton of online shooters, but I have Medal of Honor preordered, and it looks awesome.

Sometimes there just arent enough hours in a day :P and other times I wish I could just cut some out... lmao

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

I see both of your points and I think you guys are disagreeing about different things. I really dont think either of you mean that they buy the console just for one game with no intentions of ever buying another game for the entire time the console still has games being made for it. Your arguements are similar though that a system seller is a system seller. I dont think I know of anybody that ever bought a console just for one game overall though.... (however I know of a few people who bought a console for a single game AFTER the console stopped producing games, but not new especially near launch)

For example I bought a PS3 for Assassins Creed, but I didnt like it at first... however, I loved my PS3 and got different games I DID like after I got that game. SO yeah, it was a "system seller" of sorts, but I would have bought the console eventually either way... so.

Anyways, I really like the Assassins Creed series now, I was just really into online gameplay at the time, so I didnt give the first one a fair chance until a year or two after it released. I actually went back to give it another chance because of how awesome I remember it looking and thinking to myself "yeah the PS3 is going to rock!" Well, that and the fact that I dont like playing games out of rotation... and I bought 2 and still had not gotten to the first. Then I bought Brotherhood and still had not played 2, I got halfway through 2 when I got revealations.... lol.. anyways, off topic end/ :P

WitIsWisdom

Yes, now I have beaten the first 3. 1, 2, and Brotherhood. I am currently playing through Revealations now, but I also just got the World of Wrcraft expansion that I swore I wouldnt buy, and I am still playing NBA 2k12 and now 2K13 is out... lol

I am also playing through Final Fantasy on the origins collection, and also just got the God of War saga for PS3...

Im also only about halfway through Warriors Orochi III....

My problem lies with the fact I have way too many games I am playing right now. Add that with two young kids, and full time college, and I might beat Revealations a year from the time I pick up Assassins Creed 3 (which I have pre ordered... sigh...)

I have also gotten away from playing a ton of online shooters, but I have Medal of Honor preordered, and it looks awesome.

Sometimes there just arent enough hours in a day :P and other times I wish I could just cut some out... lmao

You really need to check out the new Medal of Honor game that is coming out. It's called MoH Warfighter and it looks absolutely bad ass. I was looking forward to the last MoH which wound up being average at best... However, Warfighter looks like a game that could bring me back to shooters after a year or two break. I was dissapointed with both BF3, MW3, the newest Ghost Recon, and the last Flashpoint game.... so I am dying for a great shooter. I am truly a SOCOM fan, but SOCOM 4 wasnt very great, and Confrontation is full of cheater now... It's too bad that Zipper closed their doors not too long ago... I really hope that another company picks up the SOCOM series and a game like Confrontation II or SOCOM 5 can still be made. I would even take a SOCOM I, II, or III remastered HD game that recieves support as either a dlc only or a cheaper disc based game.

Anyways though, back on our off topic discussion, (since I got off topic on being off topic... heh) Warfighter looks really great! If you have a PS3 get it when it releases and hit me up my user name on PS3 is the same as it is here. Wit Is Wisdom all together like WitIsWisdom. Most people call me W i l t or Witless or anything but Wit on these forums.... lol

My clan VOW (Veterans of War United) are the only ones who call me Wit, and even some of them mess around with me about how often people butcher it.

http://www.vowunited.com/

their is actually a funny story behind my username.

Who cares if PS1 got FF7? Those games were overrated anyways, Mario 64 was more revolutionary. Who agrees?SonyNintendoFan

Who cares if PS1 got FF7? Those games were overrated anyways, Mario 64 was more revolutionary. Who agrees?SonyNintendoFan

All 3D Mario games are overrated... The 2D ones are where it's at.

All 3D Mario games are overrated... The 2D ones are where it's at.

WhySoLimp

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

While I agree that Mario 64 is an incredible game, FFVII is in no way overrated. It's one of those highly acclaimed games that deserves all the hype and cred it receives.

Shenmue_Jehuty

It's a Kanji character, not scratches:(

I haven't seen any Kanji that looks like that.

i took one look at those jaggy psx graphics and said who the hell came out of the basment with this crap haah and went back happily playing snes , and n64 lol ,

[QUOTE="SonyNintendoFan"]Who cares if PS1 got FF7? Those games were overrated anyways, Mario 64 was more revolutionary. Who agrees?WhySoLimp

All 3D Mario games are overrated... The 2D ones are where it's at.

Mario 64 is still awesome though. And so is Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. But on the other hand PS has Final Fantasy, Parasite Eve, and Resident Evil. I really can't decide which I like better.

I prefer 30 sports cars (N64) over 100 city cars (PS1).

Quality over Quantity any day.

Final Fantasy was on a hype train. I remember, because I was on it. IMO it doesn't feel like much of a game at all, and shouldn't really be compared to Mario 64 in the first place. ...Mario 64 was a revolution though. I remember Toys R Us--the premier game retailer back them--having massive floor space dedicated to e game, which would fill with people constantly. Heirren

[QUOTE="Heirren"]Final Fantasy was on a hype train. I remember, because I was on it. IMO it doesn't feel like much of a game at all, and shouldn't really be compared to Mario 64 in the first place. ...Mario 64 was a revolution though. I remember Toys R Us--the premier game retailer back them--having massive floor space dedicated to e game, which would fill with people constantly. lazyathew

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]Final Fantasy was on a hype train. I remember, because I was on it. IMO it doesn't feel like much of a game at all, and shouldn't really be compared to Mario 64 in the first place. ...Mario 64 was a revolution though. I remember Toys R Us--the premier game retailer back them--having massive floor space dedicated to e game, which would fill with people constantly. Heirren

But yeah, I love strategy games and RPG's though. Which is why I enjoy Final Fantasy far more then Mario. They are all games, just different kinds, and it's all a matter of preference.

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="lazyathew"]What makes you say Final Fantasy doesn't feel like a game? I mean sure, it is more well known for story telling then anything else, but what about the parts between the cinamatics? It's definitly a game, and in some cases, a pretty challenging one as well.

lazyathew

But yeah, I love strategy games and RPG's though. Which is why I enjoy Final Fantasy far more then Mario. They are all games, just different kinds, and it's all a matter of preference.

[QUOTE="lazyathew"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"] It just feels like it requires no dexterity or hand-eye coordination. It is still a game, but Mario 64 is just infinitely superior in its design. Heirren

But yeah, I love strategy games and RPG's though. Which is why I enjoy Final Fantasy far more then Mario. They are all games, just different kinds, and it's all a matter of preference.

Final Fantasy was on a hype train. I remember, because I was on it. IMO it doesn't feel like much of a game at all, and shouldn't really be compared to Mario 64 in the first place. ...Mario 64 was a revolution though. I remember Toys R Us--the premier game retailer back them--having massive floor space dedicated to e game, which would fill with people constantly. Heirren

But all the hype was warranted. FF7 really broke a lot of new ground in cinematic storytelling and CGI animation. It was definetly a game-changer. It's not like today when a new COD comes out and is hyped to all hell and it's practically the same game as the one before it. FF was an innovative masterpiece.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]Final Fantasy was on a hype train. I remember, because I was on it. IMO it doesn't feel like much of a game at all, and shouldn't really be compared to Mario 64 in the first place. ...Mario 64 was a revolution though. I remember Toys R Us--the premier game retailer back them--having massive floor space dedicated to e game, which would fill with people constantly. Emerald_Warrior

But all the hype was warranted. FF7 really broke a lot of new ground in cinematic storytelling and CGI animation. It was definetly a game-changer. It's not like today when a new COD comes out and is hyped to all hell and it's practically the same game as the one before it. FF was an innovative masterpiece.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]Final Fantasy was on a hype train. I remember, because I was on it. IMO it doesn't feel like much of a game at all, and shouldn't really be compared to Mario 64 in the first place. ...Mario 64 was a revolution though. I remember Toys R Us--the premier game retailer back them--having massive floor space dedicated to e game, which would fill with people constantly. Emerald_Warrior

But all the hype was warranted. FF7 really broke a lot of new ground in cinematic storytelling and CGI animation. It was definetly a game-changer. It's not like today when a new COD comes out and is hyped to all hell and it's practically the same game as the one before it. FF was an innovative masterpiece.

I didn't have an original Playstation back in the day so I've recently started getting into some of its games, so I can't make a fair comparison (I've only played Castlevania SotN and started Final Fantasy IX).

Looking back on the N64, its library was more quality than quantity and it seems like the PS had a lot more AAA titles. While Mario 64 was my favorite game on the N64, it's definitely shouldn't be the only reason why it's better than the PS and enough to buy the system for that one game.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]Final Fantasy was on a hype train. I remember, because I was on it. IMO it doesn't feel like much of a game at all, and shouldn't really be compared to Mario 64 in the first place. ...Mario 64 was a revolution though. I remember Toys R Us--the premier game retailer back them--having massive floor space dedicated to e game, which would fill with people constantly. Dj-Dampleaf

But all the hype was warranted. FF7 really broke a lot of new ground in cinematic storytelling and CGI animation. It was definetly a game-changer. It's not like today when a new COD comes out and is hyped to all hell and it's practically the same game as the one before it. FF was an innovative masterpiece.

It's as if you guys weren't around back then. The significance and impact BOTH games had was HUGE!

FFVII for just the sheer scope of and size of the story and the game. And you never saw visuals like that before FFVII. Yeah, they were around. But this game really proved that video games can be just as awe-inspiring as your favorite movie when the story and the cutscenes are done as well as Squaresoft did on that game. Chrono Trigger and FFVI could be argued to have just as good of a story. But they didn't have the high-quality cutscenes, cd-quality music, and the portrayal of emotion conveyed on the screen as FFVII did. There's a reason that it sold so many copies and it's STILL praised to this day, and many games after FFVII copied it's formula.

Mario 64 is just as innovative because it blew the doors wide open for open-world 3D games. They were around before Mario 64, but they were either not quite fully realized or 3D in more confined spaces or areas, like the original GTA games or Tomb Raider. Mario 64 showed the public what a fully-realized 3D world could be, and how much fun it could be to explore that world. And it, like FFVII, sold a ton of copies, has been copied by other games, and is still praised to this day.

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

But all the hype was warranted. FF7 really broke a lot of new ground in cinematic storytelling and CGI animation. It was definetly a game-changer. It's not like today when a new COD comes out and is hyped to all hell and it's practically the same game as the one before it. FF was an innovative masterpiece.

Emerald_Warrior

It's as if you guys weren't around back then. The significance and impact BOTH games had was HUGE!

FFVII for just the sheer scope of and size of the story and the game. And you never saw visuals like that before FFVII. Yeah, they were around. But this game really proved that video games can be just as awe-inspiring as your favorite movie when the story and the cutscenes are done as well as Squaresoft did on that game. Chrono Trigger and FFVI could be argued to have just as good of a story. But they didn't have the high-quality cutscenes, cd-quality music, and the portrayal of emotion conveyed on the screen as FFVII did. There's a reason that it sold so many copies and it's STILL praised to this day, and many games after FFVII copied it's formula.

Mario 64 is just as innovative because it blew the doors wide open for open-world 3D games. They were around before Mario 64, but they were either not quite fully realized or 3D in more confined spaces or areas, like the original GTA games or Tomb Raider. Mario 64 showed the public what a fully-realized 3D world could be, and how much fun it could be to explore that world. And it, like FFVII, sold a ton of copies, has been copied by other games, and is still praised to this day.