The Forza Motorsport 4 thread: demo available now

Couldn't find my old Forza 4 thread, so we have this new one instead.

Demo just launched and it is awesome. The Pirelli collaboration is really showing its worth in the physics.

What's everyone's best time so far? I've got 1:41.2 in the Impreza.

The demo was good, but then again it's Forza - it'll take a lot of effort to not be good. Rather enjoyed the look of the Alps track.

....and have very recently found the joy of watching Top Gear....foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]....and have very recently found the joy of watching Top Gear....heretrix

I've just started watching them too and they are indeed hilarious. I know this is probably a google question, but does anyone know when they're back on?

Anyways foxhound, to answer your question you can get behind the wheel of a 1970 Mecury Cougar Eliminator, 2011 Subaru Impreza WRX STI, Ferrari 458 Italia all in quick race. And 2009 Pagani Zonda and 2012 BMW M5 in the other game type (I forget the name).

I'm guessing it is Gold-only for the first week?foxhound_fox

Not quite - on Friday it's available for everyone.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]....and have very recently found the joy of watching Top Gear....heretrix

I'm going to download the demo tonight and give it a spin!

I'm going to download the demo tonight and give it a spin!

Metamania

Not quite - on Friday it's available for everyone.argianas

[QUOTE="argianas"]Not quite - on Friday it's available for everyone.foxhound_fox

The rival mode seems to be leaderboard driven for fastest laps, with someone's time being the goal. The first of the three is just a straight up time trial. The other two have a bunch of slower cars that you need to overtake while going for the best time.

I got the demo downloaded yesterday, but was so tired to play it. I'll give it a run this morning for real!

I just got in a few races and even challenged a rival car (I believe I challenged your ghost car, Pat, and beat you on it). I have to say that Forza Motorsport 4 is absolutely amazing. So glad that I am picking this up. One thing that I was confused about though; the rewind feature. Why include that in? Is that just to help out new gamers of the series in getting a big advantage over the race itself? That said, I'm loving FM4!

I just got in a few races and even challenged a rival car (I believe I challenged your ghost car, Pat, and beat you on it). I have to say that Forza Motorsport 4 is absolutely amazing. So glad that I am picking this up. One thing that I was confused about though; the rewind feature. Why include that in? Is that just to help out new gamers of the series in getting a big advantage over the race itself? That said, I'm loving FM4!

Metamania

OK, I can buy that. You don't want to screw up on the tracks and the rewind features ensures that. I like it!

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/endangered-species-forza-motorsport/721682 Magnificent trailer. I love it.DarkCatalyst

Wonderful trailer! :)

The rewind in FM3 also threw any chance of getting a score put on the leaderboards, so not using it was a plus.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]....and have very recently found the joy of watching Top Gear....DarkCatalyst

What the hell?

"Need to be a LIVE Gold membership to download demo"

Seriously MS? Seriously?? For a freakin' DEMO??? That's absurd. I've been meaning to resubscribe to Gold anyway for Gears 3 so in the end it's not that big of a deal, but since when are demos deemed necessary to pay for? Now I'm beginning to see the $ in Micro$oft.

What the hell?

"Need to be a LIVE Gold membership to download demo"

Seriously MS? Seriously?? For a freakin' DEMO??? That's absurd. I've been meaning to resubscribe to Gold anyway for Gears 3 so in the end it's not that big of a deal, but since when are demos deemed necessary to pay for? Now I'm beginning to see the $ in Micro$oft.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

What the hell?

"Need to be a LIVE Gold membership to download demo"

Seriously MS? Seriously?? For a freakin' DEMO??? That's absurd. I've been meaning to resubscribe to Gold anyway for Gears 3 so in the end it's not that big of a deal, but since when are demos deemed necessary to pay for? Now I'm beginning to see the $ in Micro$oft.

DJ_Lae

Ah OK if it's a week delay no biggie, I was afraid it was permanent.

[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"][QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

What the hell?

"Need to be a LIVE Gold membership to download demo"

Seriously MS? Seriously?? For a freakin' DEMO??? That's absurd. I've been meaning to resubscribe to Gold anyway for Gears 3 so in the end it's not that big of a deal, but since when are demos deemed necessary to pay for? Now I'm beginning to see the $ in Micro$oft.

MirkoS77

Ah OK if it's a week delay no biggie, I was afraid it was permanent.

No worries. It's only a week delay. Besides, the game comes out next week. :)

So am I the only one that's picking up the LE for Forza 4?

"Need to be a LIVE Gold membership to download demo"MirkoS77

I downloaded the demo yesterday and had a lot of fun with it. I've never been into racers (I have Forza 3 which I tried but never played it again), but this one has me really interested, so much so that I will get it.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]"Need to be a LIVE Gold membership to download demo"foxhound_fox

IGN has reviewed Forza Motorsport 4 and gave it a 9.5 out of 10. You can read that review here.

Also, for some reason, the Gamespot text review is a review that I can't fully read just yet, but I did watch the video review. Justin Calvert scored it an 8.5 out of 10. I think that's less than Forza 3's score!

I downloaded the demo and played it as well. What a fantastic game... I'm so impressed by every aspect. This is also the first racing game I've played where cockpit driving feels JUST AS GOOD as the behind-the-vehicle view. Although I'm not a huge racing fan, this is one of those games that seems too damn good to pass up.

Pretty sure they've always been that way - with a one week delay for Silver members.DJ_Lae

Yeah that's one of those awesome benefits to being gold:roll:

Reviews seem to be very positive. GS seems to be the lowest thus far, knocking it for stuff like no weather/night effects and a lot of repeated content (5 new tracks, and other tracks were removed like New York and I think LeMans). Losing LeMans is sad.

One thing of note is that there's no more car levels (thankfully, since you can max out a car fast), but instead manufacturer levels up to 50. What's very interesting is that getting to level 4 makes all part modifications free, which just seems surprising on the face of things. Essentially you won't have to pay to mod your car anymore, just buy the cars themselves.

Reviews seem to be very positive. GS seems to be the lowest thus far, knocking it for stuff like no weather/night effects and a lot of repeated content (5 new tracks, and other tracks were removed like New York and I think LeMans). Losing LeMans is sad.

One thing of note is that there's no more car levels (thankfully, since you can max out a car fast), but instead manufacturer levels up to 50. What's very interesting is that getting to level 4 makes all part modifications free, which just seems surprising on the face of things. Essentially you won't have to pay to mod your car anymore, just buy the cars themselves.

argianas

[QUOTE="argianas"]

Reviews seem to be very positive. GS seems to be the lowest thus far, knocking it for stuff like no weather/night effects and a lot of repeated content (5 new tracks, and other tracks were removed like New York and I think LeMans). Losing LeMans is sad.

One thing of note is that there's no more car levels (thankfully, since you can max out a car fast), but instead manufacturer levels up to 50. What's very interesting is that getting to level 4 makes all part modifications free, which just seems surprising on the face of things. Essentially you won't have to pay to mod your car anymore, just buy the cars themselves.

gpuFX16

That's good to hear, but also a little puzzling. I would imagine that Sarthe has royalty fees to go with it, but NYC wouldn't. So why drop it, especially since (as far as I can tell) NYC was a popular track in previous games?

NYC was a popular track in previous games?argianas

[QUOTE="argianas"]NYC was a popular track in previous games?foxhound_fox

I was'nt a fan of the FM3's chicane-infested New York either. *Boots up World Tour* *R3 World Championship* *New York- 13 laps*

.... >_> 13 laps around THAT? Ugh.

As far as the review goes, I'm personally not put off, but it is rather strange. The series has always been highly rated. Being a racing game, you wont see sweeping changes as much as other games.Judging from previews, there's been a good amount of additions. The cars demand smoother input thanks to the new physics (As far as I can tell from playing the demo). There's been a bump up in the graphics. I could go on.

Not gonna change 8.5, but I'll be enjoying this game either way next week.

Actually, that reminds me of one other thing I hope was fixed from Forza 3 - the broken PIs with AWD swaps. You'd gain the ability to completely cut corners, drive without TCS without any actual finesse required, but your car's PI would actually DECREASE due to the weight gain, although the weight caused an insignificant loss in actual performance. I realize there's always going to be glitches with such a system (like Forza 1's infamous CRX engine swap) but it makes leaderboards no fun at all when certain drivetrains and/or specific car models dominate due to imbalance.DJ_Lae

If I recall, some F3 leaderboards were totally dominated by a Mazda R1 car because an engine swap brought it down a couple of classes, but it totally outperformed others in the category. A Koenigsegg was the same way. And yeah, the AWD swap was always an improvement despite the PI drop. I think a Golf dominated a lower-level leaderboard for the same reasons.

That combined with the crazy rule where opponents drafting breaking your leaderboard time were the two biggest glitches in the system that I recall.

One thing I didn't like was that you couldn't add a number of parts to a car without buying them to see what the total effect it has on the car stats, then buying them all at once (like an online shopping cart system). But I guess since parts are essentially free this time it doesn't matter as much from here on.

^Have'nt been on the official forums in a bit, but I remember reading somewhere that AWD swaps actually increase PI this time around. Don't take my word on that though.

That combined with the crazy rule where opponents drafting breaking your leaderboard time were the two biggest glitches in the system that I recall.

argianas

Finally got to try the demo.

Must get ASAP.

Those physics are stunning. And I felt exactly what Jeremy Clarkson was talking about in the Pagani Zonda Cinque. The interior views are... astonishing. I think I may have to trade in Driver: SF to get it though (as I don't see myself playing it anytime soon, or again really). I find it interesting how they still offer manual w/clutch for cars that don't have a clutch (i.e. Ferrari 458 or Pagani Zonda Cinque). And that Bernese tracks is beautiful.

EDIT: The Zonda Cinque is a fantastic car. Way more rewarding to drive than the Zonda in FM3 (which had a terrible cockpit view). Makes me wonder just how much better the other cars have become.

Seems that importing your Forza 3 save will get you the Fiat 500, Focus RS, Camero SS, R8 Quattro, Veyron, and three racers depending on your level. Also a few cars that you have in Forza 3 will transfer to Forza 4, but they all seem to be DLC/VIP cars at first glance (458, LF-A, ZR1, etc.).

Also, I won't be getting 1000 GS in this game. There's an achievement for using Kinect (of course there is!), and another one is for winning a unicorn car in the auction house. Well then!

And yeah, New York and Sidewinder aren't updated for F4 (though Sidewinder wasn't even used in F3's career mode so I'm actually not tired of that one). The long version of Amalfi didn't make the cut, nor did the shorter Bugatti track for Le Mans. Otherwise, it seems everything else made it through.

GS has a nice list of the cars that you get to choose from at each level, and their in-game costs. Some levels have one car worth much higher than the others (like level 11, the Stratos is 240k and the next car is 38k).