Does Ubisoft developers have no fresh ideas

I play watchdogs and I feel like I am playing assassin creed in a car, how hard is it to have some fresh ideas for a new game, do these developers lack brain cells.

You know it's entirely possible to criticise a game without being an ignorant ass about it. Really, what was the point with the very last part of your post?

@yukushi: completely agree. splinter cell, far cry and watch dogs are all just pretty much assassin's creed re-skinned. same feel. same mechanics. unfortunately, judging by comments i see on this site and others, most people don't seem to realise / care.

ubisoft seemingly have none of the creativity or focus on quality they had ten years+ ago, back in the days of games like splinter cell chaos theory and before that. all they seem concerned about now is shovelling as much derivative, formulaic shit out as quickly as they can. very sad to see a quality publisher fall so far and people continuing to lap it up

@Archangel3371:

No need to be butthurt its the truth and you know it, fry cry, assassin creed, watch dogs all use the same ideas, all I am asking for is some creativity or maybe that is too much to ask for.

People seem to lack reading comprehension skills these days. I never said anything about the creativity in their games nor did I say that you couldn't ask for more or criticise their games for it. I simply questioned the reason to include a derogatory comment at the end with the "lack of brain cells" comment.

Dont you dare compare Splinter Cell to that.

Splinter Cell is a STEALTH GAME. And it gets stealth right, probably the best stealth in video games as a matter of fact. I haven't played WD but AC and FC have horrible stealth systems. Also Splinter Cell is NOT open world.

Are you drunk? Splinter Cell is a old franchise that had its first game long before Assassins Creed was even a sparkle in the developers eye and probably also before your mom was even born.

Yup.

I cant even understand why he thought SC had similar gameplay to AC, really aside from being able to kill people with a knife, splinter cell has NOTHING in common with assassins creed.

They do... Child of Light is proof of that.... But what good is fresh ideas if people would rather buy Assassin's Creed....

They use the same approach because it's the safest and sells the most.
I can forgive that, but their in-game transaction systems are getting unacceptable

I don't care, because there's no need to play every Ubisoft game out there. There's no need to play all Assassin's Creed's, there's no need to play all Far Cry's, there's no need to play all Clancy games. There are so many games out there. I played the first AC and somewhere next year I'll probably buy AC IV to be a pirate and play with boats. If you ask me, people should stop fatiguing themselves.

In my experience, lack of reading comprehension, selective reading and/or unnecessarily assigning emotions/moods to comments based on their phrasing are the main reasons so many discussions devolve into bickering and personal attacks. That, and the apparent desire to express every opinion within the twitter word limit, which often makes for blunt and unsubstantiated comments.

So true.

All their development teams are probably bursting with fresh and innovative ideas... they are just being constricted by what their publishing overlords expect and harsh deadlines that prevents them.

have you even played blacklist? it's nothing like the old splinter cell games. there's a completely different feel to it. you climb around buildings like altair. it handles more like assassin's creed than chaos theory. try playing the game before you wade in with the insults shit for brains

fair point but it just smacks of laziness to me. they used to be one of my favourite publishers. i miss the days of when their games all had their own unique feel. now most of their games feel very similar and share the same features and mechanics. i don't like that

What kind of fresh ideas are you looking for? I loved both Far Cry 3 and Far Cry 4. But, that's about it for Ubisoft FPS games. I'm not interested in the AC series or TPS games. So, no big loss to me.

I liked Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light. So, I'm happy to see Ubisoft releasing Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris soon.

Well, laziness or not, if people would stop buying these games so eagerly on a yearly basis, then maybe Ubisoft would try a little harder. If you ask me, a lot of consumers are just as lazy by going for the most marketed games, instead of putting a little bit of effort into finding something else to play.

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Does Ubisoft developers have no fresh ideas" NOPE !

First, I remember when Ubisoft could do no wrong amongst gamers and EA and Activision got all the hate but I guess 2014 is the "year of the hate for Ubisoft." Since all the cool kids are hating I guess everyone's got to jump in. What a joke.

But now that I've got that out of the way I will make a few comments.

1. Many of Ubisoft's franchises are all trading ideas. Therefore systems, ideas, mechanics ETC are going from one game to another and back. While Watch Dogs did have a few new ideas it did borrow a ton of lumber from Assassins Creed. Assassins Creed has clearly influenced Far Cry and things tried in Far Cry 3 have come back to influence Assassins Creed. I think that this is getting a tad out of hand and that Far Cry should feel like Far Cry and not like a FPS Assassins Creed.

2. The "initates", "companion apps" and "uplay" crap is getting shoved down my throad and up my butt has GOT to stop. Locking in game function behind a dumb companion app is the worst idea since the virtual boy.

3. There's no reason to hate Ubisoft. They released Child of Light (as mentioned earlier) and Valiant Hearts which were both fun-looking indie artistic games. You can't fault them for the new ideas they are trying in their games, the locking mechanic in AC:U sucked but hopefully they'll learn from that. The hacking in Watch dogs was quite interesting and fun (and you can't tell me there's anything like it in Assassins Creed.

Now I'm babbling. Time to go.

Your posts in this thread are some of the worst I've ever seen. It's like you literally don't know what you're talking about. Also, cursing at someone? Really dude? Grow up. It's a video game forum.

Can't really blame the developers since they have very little say in what is included and removed from a game. Publishers/producers have more power than the developers.

Yes i have, opposite you it seems, actually paid for and played Blacklist and its a move away from the traditional splinter cell game but only in the way its no longer a linear story game but a semi open world game with focus on co-op. But its core mechanics is still very much splinter cell and you have been climbing on walls in Splinter Cell ever since the first game even came out, which again was way before there was anything called Assassins creed.

Also if you wish to insult me, try a bit harder.

And we have a winner.

Games do not want fresh ideas.

They are trying fresh ideals with games like Assassin's Creed

And that is reality. It's hard coming up with new ideas, and even harder putting tons of money into said new idea, and not knowing if they'll get a prominent return on their investment. Play it safe, rehash the same known name multiple times and the average consumer will eat it up. The people that are concerned over Ubisofts lack of ideas, constant rehashes, and lack of quality control are a minimal minority compared to the millions that will go out and buy every Assassins Creed game day one.

If they can get away with how they operate currently and make a profit, then why wouldn't they? Easy way = winning for them.

@polishkid99

Damn Straight.... I did my part though.... I bought both Rayman Origin and Legends.... Thats the series I wana see more of.

Something they could do in the next WD is allow a certain app or holographic map that allows you to set up ambushes. Maybe you could connect to devices and cameras that are very far away- but there would have to be some kind of balance. Maybe research different areas or something..... idk. It does not matter anyway

NO, Ubisoft devs have plenty of ideas. But if Ubisoft thinks it wont make as much money they will can the game.

Remeber when Ubi published games like Darkwatch and Dreamfall The Longest Journey.

it's my opinion. if you can't see the similarities between blacklist and assassin's creed / far cry and how much the game has switched in play style towards these games from the early sc games then fine but i can. and he was the one who called me drunk then cracked a mom joke, yet i'm the one who needs to grow up? ok

My experience exactly. Watch Dogs and Far Cry is AC now with boring repetitive gameplay, all filled with towers revealing yet more useless crap to do. Why would we need them towers in FC4 anyhow? It's not like there ain't friggin' choppers everywhere, revealing the entire map. It's just stupid, and not really entertaining. The only real cool thing with FC4 is the hunting and Unity I quit playing after the prologue and I don't think I will pick up from where I left it.

devs created new IPs.

Instead you guys continued to buy Assassin Creed, GTA, COD, BF, and all the major titles. . Case in point Bayonetta 2 sales are atrocious and at the end of the day devs want bonuses and royalties. They are not going to make an interesting new I.P. that doesn't sell because you are still attached to Halo and are unwilling to give other innovative games a chance. Moreover, over the years, critics have chastised games that strayed away from the mundane formula which also helps to curb stomp any new idea.

This industry hates change unless its backed and marketed by some celebrity, Facebook, or idk has AAA status funding.

Next.......

how hard is it to play something else ? do you seriously lack brain cells to come up with the idea of playing something else ?

...you are completely deranged...

@wiouds: How can you try new ideas with an old franchise such as AC. They have done everything they can.

@sabretooth2066 I dont agree with him. But when i play WD or FC. The structure reminds me only of AC, mission structures, design and general things.

mentioning splinter cell along with far cry and assassin´s creed in one row makes it obvious this guy has some major malfunction

@sabretooth2066: Splinter Cell its not even the same ball game, not even close to AC, WD or FC. Thats when i said to myself, dont even try talking to him.

well for one thing i can understand some people being tired of climbing towers to make certain spots on the area visible, as you have to do it in assassin´s creed (which actually started that feature) then watch dogs and now even you have to do the same thing in SHADOW OF MORDOR, but i have to say i like it, i just dont get tired of climing towers and activating certain spots on the map that way

So where is the legit criticism of this game?

that's rich coming from you lol. the guy who has a meltdown every time someone disagrees with him.

saying they are all just ac reskinned was, in hindsight, too strong a statement but i do stand by my point that they all have a similar feel. when i said you could now climb around buildings like altair, jacanuk said you've always been able to climb walls in splinter cell. but you haven't. you were able to rappel down walls at certain places or climb drainpipes but not bound around a building from ledge to ledge like you can now. that is very assassin's creed-like.

i know this is just one example but my overall point is that it feels like they're using the same underlying template for each of these games. and whilst of course they have their own unique features and gameplay elements they also share a lot (e.g. the detection meter, uncovering parts of the map by climbing towers, cookie cutter filler side missions, the stealth via on screen prompts etc) and as a result the games feel quite similar and lose some of their individuality.

maybe sc to a lesser extent than watch dogs and far cry but blacklist still feels, to me, closer to assassin's creed than it does to chaos theory. think back to the early splinter cell games - they had their own unique style and feel. far cry 1 & 2 also had their own feel. assassin's creed had its own feel. the differences and boundaries between them were all clear. now there's a lot of overlap. i'm not a fan of that, i miss the old ubisoft. splinter cell is one of my favourite franchises. i've replayed the first 3 probably more than most and i'm disappointed in how very different it is now compared to the early games. maybe that's why i'm a little hostile to ubi ;)

maybe it isn't laziness by ubi, maybe it's because they intentionally want their games to feel familiar to help increases sales because if you enjoy one chances are you'll enjoy them all. i don't know. anyway, it's just my opinion.

@yngsten at least someone agrees with me ;)

1.) dont take every word i post so goddamn serious for christ sakes and take it easy....this is just the internet

2.) ....reading this huge article gave me the idea its you who just suffered a meltdown

3.) no no, its true, you were a moron for mentioning splinter cell with far cry, watch dogs and assassin´s creed in one row, but youre not a complete fool because in some other threads you made at least some sense at times

@sabretooth2066 ha i just felt the need to justify my point after the reaction i've had ;) and despite the reaction, i have seen others on gs who share a similar opinion, so believe it or not i'm not the only one who feels like this about ubisoft

How can they have any good ideas when they spread the development of their games over 20 different studios.

Dislike Ubi all you want, when the games of theirs work, they're pretty good. Better than EA's most of the time

I enjoy some of their stuff but they have oddly enough made the same exact games reskined with barely changed AI for the last 10 years. Enjoying far cry 4 but it's only a graphical change over 3 everything else but setting is the same. It's the same with the assassins creed games, and well that's about all I can think of from them that has been of any note other the watch dogs and it just downright sucked.

Kind of weird though that the only two things that come to mind for the last 10 years as something big from ubisoft are the Creed games and Far cry...Literally I can't think of anything else from them that is even worth mentioning which says a lot, considering how large that company is.

This is how ubisoft does things if they come out with a game and it does well then they will release a part two of the game the next year with some slight changes and they will keeping doing this until the consumer gets tired of the game,

This is what happen with assassin creed the games would be so much better if they did not rush it to the market and watchdogs had potential but it needed more development time, but the problem with ubisoft bosses is they are all about the money and trying to please shareholders there is no true love for gaming and that is the big problem.

Rayman Legends.

I don't think it's that they don't have any ideas, I think it's that they really aren't allowed to develop any of them. Almost every Ubisoft game is on or close to a yearly release schedule now and they are getting more and more similar and more and more generic. I've said this before, but i really do attribute this to yearly releases. While I am aware that many publishers have many different studios working on these games, they still really aren't fully developed and sometimes only get around a year or two of development. This really makes it hard for any new innovations to occur because you really don't have time to create new animations, mechanics, and all other necessary improvements in such a short time, so many developers resort to just copying and pasting their last game or releasing a broken game. I really like Ubisoft and I like playing their games, so I hope they can turn this pattern around, but I'm really not too optimistic on Ubisofts future currently