Does this also annoys you ?

For example your playing an rpg and after about 20 minutes you decide to play a platformer. After 20 minutes in that game you haven't made any progress. Does the fact that you could've spend that 20 minutes in the rpg also frustrates you. It s some kind of time waste.

That's why RPG's are addictive

Discuss

Well, it depends on the game. Some RPGs make you spend over 6 hours and have no progress.

I hate RPG's that demand grinding a lot. I think it's very old gameplay form and it needs to be changed. At least make it less repetitive.azad_champ

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]I hate RPG's that demand grinding a lot. I think it's very old gameplay form and it needs to be changed. At least make it less repetitive.FoodThing00

I've noticed that almost all kids feel this way lately. Grinding up and then kicking ass at the end is what makes it fun & an RPG, fast pace makes me lose interest because it stops feeling like an RPG, (KH for example.) If it felt like a fighting game and was fast and free flowing, wouldn't that just be an adventure game?

I hate RPG's that demand grinding a lot. I think it's very old gameplay form and it needs to be changed. At least make it less repetitive.azad_champ

Agreed

Grinding has gotten old, although i'm not sure how they can improve upon this, and tiresome. Mind you once you get past the first 10 levels usually grinding becomes a little more fun because you don't die every 20 seconds fighting rats or wolves etc.

[QUOTE="FoodThing00"][QUOTE="azad_champ"]I hate RPG's that demand grinding a lot. I think it's very old gameplay form and it needs to be changed. At least make it less repetitive.oce86

I've noticed that almost all kids feel this way lately. Grinding up and then kicking ass at the end is what makes it fun & an RPG, fast pace makes me lose interest because it stops feeling like an RPG, (KH for example.) If it felt like a fighting game and was fast and free flowing, wouldn't that just be an adventure game?

The worst is what happened in Halo3 the other day... I was playing that for a good 2-3 hours, and passed like 3 chapters, and just turned the console off, but never saved!ice_radon

I did the same, but at work, with macromedia flash. ugh.

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[QUOTE="FoodThing00"][QUOTE="azad_champ"]I hate RPG's that demand grinding a lot. I think it's very old gameplay form and it needs to be changed. At least make it less repetitive.FoodThing00

I've noticed that almost all kids feel this way lately. Grinding up and then kicking ass at the end is what makes it fun & an RPG, fast pace makes me lose interest because it stops feeling like an RPG, (KH for example.) If it felt like a fighting game and was fast and free flowing, wouldn't that just be an adventure game?

That's not a fact...it's your opinion.

I don't mind the turn based combat. A lot of RPGs that focus on making it into a fighting game are often simplified and dumb downed *cough* Kingdom Hearts *cough* Eternal Sonata *cough*. It's nicè for a change in the gameplay mechanics every once in a while, but I don't ever want to see turn based combat go.

So long as the AI is the braindead "attack player" type, I'd be glad to see it go.

Why are RPGs so repetitive and boring?

You spend so much time fighting hordes of rather stupid creatures. Look at the AI in half-life. They take cover when shot at. They throw grenades to flush you out. They call for backup. In RPGs, you touch a monster/get randomly warped into a battle arena. From there, you hit them, they hit you, blah. Or in real-time RPGs, it's not much better. Attack enemy, perhaps cast a spell every few seconds until dead.

It doesn't test the player. It only depends on how long you play. FPSes are all about twitch and reflex skills. As you play, you'll hone your timing and precision. YOU as the player get better. Then on the other hand are strategy games. These are about making smart decisions. A game like chess perhaps. As you play YOU get better by making smarter moves. Notice how in both games, you as the PLAYER get better, not the ingame avatar you assume.

But in RPGs, it's about how much time you invest. That's the core of the experience = level system. Chess or counter-strike are great games in that, whether you win or lose, the game was a thrill. But in RPGs, a battle is often long and simple. Is it the battle that people remember? Or rather is it that rare weapon or that huge exp amount they get in return what they are after? You never see people rave about the battles, but rather what they get from it.

I won't lie, I do that too. I play a game called Phantasy Star Online Episode 1&2 for the gamecube. The game? It's utterly boring. You walk around areas and slash at monsters either with a gun, a sword or you can use magical attacks. The monsters die, then they respawn. So that's the game. Walk around and slash. However, the only reason I play is because I can get items and levels from the monsters. Rewarded for doing boring stuff. That's how I see it.

I can play counter-strike or chess for hours and enjoy it, even though I don't get a reward for it. However, I can't imagine spending hours of "working" in RPGs without getting some item or experience.

[QUOTE="ice_radon"]The worst is what happened in Halo3 the other day... I was playing that for a good 2-3 hours, and passed like 3 chapters, and just turned the console off, but never saved!Black_Knight_00

I did the same, but at work, with macromedia flash. ugh.

That´s what I call annoying...:x

Ok, there is a difference between hack n slash rpg's and true rpg's. I hate people who grind and sit there trying to power level. I used to play this one rpg where it wasnt' really about killing monsters. You got minute exp for killing things. The real experience and level gaining was in roleplaying and interacting with one another. Players were able to give what were called role-playing points to other players for good rp. It couldn't be abused, because you only had like 5 points every 5 hours. And you would be watched closely by admins if your 5 points went to the same player. Once you got 10 rp points, you would gain a level.

Now that wasn't about grinding it out for hours and hours, even though the game was very addictive and I found myself sitting on there for hours running around and discovering new areas and trying to figure out quests, and trying to find nice items for new players so they wouldn't have to go try and make some gold so they could buy the same armor and then be broke.

It was rpg's like that that made me fall in love with them, but it was hack n slash rpg's that made me even notice them.