[QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="ShenlongBo"][QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="Kazona"] Jeff Gerstmann got fired, and no one is willing to honestly tell us why. But Alex Navarro and Ryan Davis left because of Jeff's firing and how things surrounding his firing had been handled, so I'm guessing the whole story they fed us about Jeff's departure has been a load of bs.
So to sum up: Jeff got canned, and Alex and Ryan left cuz of it and no one should care.
ShenlongBo
I fixed it for you
No one should care? Really?The fact that CNet has swept this whole thing under the rug is proof positive what they think of us as readers and consumers (don't forget, a lot of people pay real life actual dollars to be members here). They very obviously don't value us as supporters, and are willing to treat us like mindless dogs so long as the advertisers are ponying up the dough. And if the fact that they've basically admitted to this by firing Jeff for his negative review of K&L doesn't cement it for you, nothing will.
A lot of people here, myself included, have provided a lot of value to GameSpot in the form of money and in the form of contributions like ReviewSpotting. In good business, the return on our value given would be value returned. Thing is, CNet has made it clear they have no interest in reciprocating that value. Just pay up, shut up, and color.
The only reason I haven't abandoned the site is because I don't want to abandon the wrong people (like the community admins) and add more bad news to the oversized stack they've got to deal with. The fact that I've got a lot of personal time invested in the site also comes into play, but whatever... I can get over that. If things continue along this path, though, I don't think I can hold out. Sorry, but I don't like being treated like I'm too stupid to know when I'm getting shafted.
1. it's standard practice for a work place not to broadcast out to the world what a person is fired for.
2. No one knows if it is for the kane and Lynch deal. If people weren't crazed conspiracy theorists listening to websites that directly compete with gamespot as to what happened, and actually looked at the picture logicallly, you'll see they pretty much had a good reason for firing that guy.
K&L scored a 6.0 which is a fair game and by Gamespot's ratings it's a slightly above average game.
Supposed A film critic rated a movie and gave it a little over the typical 2 1/2 star rating...Let's say a three star, and then the review said the movie is ugly, the characters suck, the dialogue sucks, the story is garbage, the idea of the is good but quickly wears off, don't watch this movie unless you're interested in the idea... does that sound like an above average 3 star review to you?
because those are the things that Jeff said about Kane & Lynch while scoring it as an above average and fair game.
3. Then people want to talk about integrity when the previews on this website are the biggest pieces of fluff i've ever seen
4. and if the editors of gamespot would have listened to the majority of the us "paying customers" that they care so much about more so than evil Cnet, then they wouldn't have changed the way reviews are done then K&L could have been rated according to those guidelines and they would have matched the review.
Jeff Gerstman did the biggest account suicide ever on this website and just like in OT, there are going to be people that complain and leave... there's no difference at all
Lastly this has nothing to do with games so it should be locked anyways. since when does general game discussion encompass canned editors?
Well, it's been allowed in GGD ever since the top mods started creating their own threads covering the editor exodus. It's a rarity, but there's a precedent set by people with a great deal more seniority and authority than you or me. If you felt that way to begin with, why'd you post before I did? Nice try on burning a mod, but you fail.Anyway, you can't prove with any more certainty that you're right than I can that I'm right. Your angle revolves around plausible deniability, and mine revolves around probable cause. Either way you slice it, people on this site should care.
well with all your modding power, most of the people don't really care. welcome to planet Earth and it doesn't matter who's right.
All i know is an editor got fired, I don't care and you're upset about it. I'll let you be right all you want
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