Xbox One, PS4, Wii U could be the last generation of gaming hardware, says research firm

EEDAR chief product officer Geoffrey Zatkin makes the claim today during the Game Developers Conference.

The eighth generation of consoles--that is Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and Wii U--"could be the last generation of dedicated hardware." That's according to video game market research firm EEDAR chief product officer Geoffrey Zatkin, who made the claim during a panel called "Awesome Video Game Data" today at the Game Developers Conference in San Francisco.

Zatkin didn't say what might come next if it's not another round of consoles, but he's not the first to say that the current wave of consoles might be the last. Tekken producer Katsuhiro Harada said last year that the future of gaming is not dedicated hardware, but rather services.

For its part, Sony said in October that the PlayStation brand will become more service-oriented going forward through cloud-powered programs like PlayStation Now. Microsoft's Xbox One also leverages the power of the cloud extensively.

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Hurvl
Hurvl

Fine by me, the PC will always be here.

hs_alpha_wolf
hs_alpha_wolf

The doom and gloom is interesting given the amount of excitement out there at GDC last week. With both the PS4 and XBox One selling quite well compared to their predecessors at this stage, I think its probably a bit early to start calling the end of an era. We will almost certainly see changes to digital delivery and the online platforms themselves, but I highly doubt they are backing out of this market. Nintendo may, but honestly they have been playing a different game for the last 10 years, so who knows.

xgu1ltx
xgu1ltx

@hs_alpha_wolf  I don't think it's doom and gloom. They are talking about simply moving past our current media consumption format. Think about it more like it has been with TV. Slowly, there are less and less reasons to have a cable or satellite service. Most of those reasons are forced by said providers with exclusivity agreements. We are moving to an on demand, internet based service.


This is ultimately the way gaming will likely evolve as well.

emerin76
emerin76

Provided in 10 years everyone has a decent, consistant high speed connection, sure...until then...not likely.

xgu1ltx
xgu1ltx

@emerin76  It won't work until there is fiber running on the neighborhood level. Not the current hub-based services like FioS. Fiber optic running up to my house and directly into my computer.


Sadly though, the same ISPs that are arbitrarily limiting bandwidth will likely still be controlling access.

sirgamesaaalot
sirgamesaaalot

who needs play station now? I seriously doubt that this will be the future... 


cldmstrsn1
cldmstrsn1

i am personally excited for PS5, Xbox Two or Xbow wow yippee yo yippee yay, and Wii yew two i choose you.

LuzerGS
LuzerGS

@cldmstrsn1  I like the way you roll bro! 


P.S. You missed an extra 'wow'. Haha no biggie.

WraistlinGill
WraistlinGill

What we have here is a rippling effect where someone at GameSpot is on the verge of being 'let go,' and the way the system of journalism works is that unless enough stories are published, justification of the employe headcount gets brought into the light.


This article is simply GameSpot passing on a wasted read to us, to save their employees.

WraistlinGill
WraistlinGill

Keep this information in mind, "research firm EEDAR chief product officer Geoffrey Zatkin,"  because they should never be taken seriously.  What a steaming pile of refuge.  GameSpot, why would you tarnish your image further with a tabloid article like this?


This just in:  Current iPhone model to be the last dedicated hardware of its kind.


Simply terrible journalism, period.

fersay777
fersay777

I do feel pity for these two stupid guys.

Keledron
Keledron

If I'm not mistaken, this same firm said the same thing with the previous generation of consoles. I highly, highly doubt console gaming will ever go away completely. It already IS a service oriented model.


I laugh at all these "trend predictors" of this will go away, that will go away. They have been consistently wrong. Unless the entire gaming community quits playing console video games, there will be more consoles. Simple market demand.


They could have saved their money on this study...

Fursnake
Fursnake

If this is the last generation of consoles then what a lackluster end.

phbz
phbz

Just now I was hoping for next gen to be cartridge based again. Bummer. :( 

bigrob007
bigrob007

the problem is, and this is also closely linked to the stories about plot being overrated, the people in charge of our games don't care about games. it's all about money and numbers to them. that's fine, and money makes the world go round and all, but True Gamers know what GAMING is all about. it's the same reason why people watch movies and read books. "stupid sells" is a mentality that too many executives have. if that wasn't disturbing enough just think, these are the same execs that will decide whether or not to build a console for 9th gen gaming, or green light the next new IP to rival the story telling of games like the last of us. they need to know that we are here to support great stories, and that the rush of "dude-bro" gamers is shallow and meaningless to long term investment. we game, not to fill time, or be distracted, but to escape, and be comforted by worlds alien to our own. if "dude-bros" stop buying games. our hobby becomes niche again. if we stop buying games, the industry dies. think about it.

LancerVI
LancerVI

@bigrob007  "Dude-Bros" are what make's the industry money. There are no "Dude Bros" here.  We're gamers. It's our chosen hobby. But for a VAST majority of the market, it's not. They play a little Madden and CoD with their friends and that's about it. (I love Madden too) That's a very general statement BTW. Good / Bad, I don't know, but it has made the industry what it is today.


I've been gaming since the launch of the Atari 2600, C64, CoCo and Tandy EX. There is only one constant; change. 


Let me tell you; if this is your hobby, get used to it. Most of my main loves in gaming are pretty much niche now (flight sim, space sim, strategy wargaming, point-n-click adventure gaming, simulations in general.)


The market is going to go where the money is, pure and simple. My advice, build a PC! There's plenty of niche devs out there if you look and niche is where real gaming goodness is to be found, again, in general.


Just my 2 cents.



lokar82
lokar82

@LancerVI  Well said, fellow old person!  The one constant of the last 20 years is that the PC is the best thing to have.

amv12
amv12

I think there will be another generation of consoles after this one. If these consoles will eventually achieve 4K upscaling then who knows, next generation could be native 4K resolution. 


After that then there may be internet connections fast enough to handle such a bandwidth. Until then, I don't see it happening myself.

billlabowski
billlabowski

Being a PC gamer, that sucks. Once again, consoles set everything back.

jameshubert12
jameshubert12

how consoles should be done correctly:


>> think of a revamped console based on the old one (the bits and shit that go into making one)

>> make the console (yes using reliable good hardware names like Nvidia not ATI and a decent CPU not AMD)

>> wait a year prior to releasing the damn thing (giving a contingency into any problems etc that arise)  give testers a chance to check what need addressing, how compact it can be made without hardware failure etc...at the same time giving the devs the specs to what they can rely on making a good game...

>> allow different game devs to produce at least 5-10 actual next gen games within that 1 year time frame 

>> finalise console making sure no problems are encountered...


>> show highlights to consumers after the 1 year at E3 or something to show what they can expect from each console release = CORRECT way of doing things... 

obviously a dream above, but in real life everythings competetive and rushed...

 

highly rushed for profits...no good next gen game, and well each console has its fair share of problems...

bigrob007
bigrob007

@jameshubert12 intel and NVidia are no doubt better than amd and amd. but not by much, and not enough to warrant the price gap. my fx8350 and r9 290x can run anything at 60 fps average or higher

qualopec_1
qualopec_1

Well, I guess this will be the last generation that I play games.

ekisom
ekisom

i miss the day when i just pop a game in the ps2 and just play... no online-only bs. no logging in to some community and signing up here and there and having to update all the time. 


i had high hopes for gaming back then. the future seemed limitless, the potential grand and exciting... how did the gaming industry get to this point...?


machines these days are already too powerful. games too graphicky. the experience is just the same, like nothing changed except now you play in HD and you have to play online all the time and you get sidetracked by sign-ups here and there. 


enough with the hardware and graphics. show us the next generation in gaming experience. i want to experience the future that was in my mind. physics and input advances that enriches gaming. the tech is there, someone just has to consolidate everything into one cohesive and intuitive system. 

Lucky-B
Lucky-B

@ekisom The product became more popular, big corporate publishers dumped a sh*tload of money into development (thinking the more they spent, the more they'd earn back), which raised prices and pressure on developers (no more risks, they might not make money, make a COD clone instead).  Theft/piracy became more rampant and the companies panicked and introduced the now commonplace online communities and DRM.  It's kind of like the transition from Old Hollywood (Midnight Cowboy, Godfather, The Graduate) to the current mess that industry is in (Dark and gritty comic book movie/Michael Bay catastrophe). 

JaiGuru
JaiGuru

Given how big a ripoff this industry is you can pretty much count on it. Who would pay money for this crap?

the22for4
the22for4

2020 ps5 and xbox two Confirmed , LOL no 9th Generation I DONT FOKING SO.

666_Laventine
666_Laventine

Pfft! Clearly somebody didn't see that PS9 commercial.

greenpolyp
greenpolyp

They are going to eventually make consoles modular, where if you want better graphics just swap out the graphics card. Unlike the PC, It would be as easy enough a 7 year old could do it. Plug and Play evolved.

turok0
turok0

can WiiU be counted as 8th generation?

DiverseGamer
DiverseGamer

@turok0  Technically it's this generation, but we all know where it should be...

mpeg3s
mpeg3s

No we are two decades away. Steam is going  to look pretty attractive years from now. 


Sony just killed 720p gaming by PR. 


Baring some super compression it's not going to happen. 



therealeu
therealeu

Some moron says this every single year!!  ... and they're always wrong

Kooken58
Kooken58

The only thing I could see happening is consoles being merged with Tablet or cell phone devices...where you plug your phone into the TV and play games like that.  This Cloud shit is just stupid and is fooling nobody. You would need an insanely fast internet connection, faster than any of the current fiber optic connections you see today...to even touch the power that a High end GPU and CPU can do on the spot.

GIF
GIF

Silly. Games are not going the way of Cloud services when internet and not even phone networks can service everyone successfully with broadband on a consistent superfast basis. Then theres talk of the Time Warner merger creating issues like dominating a market and creating data caps on internet usage thereby completely wiping this theory out. I dont think these people have any clue whatsoever whats going on since they dont seem to be taking into account current news. The console wars will be going for another 50 years at least.

JaiGuru
JaiGuru

@GIF Except next gen they'll just be called the PC wars. Standardization is not a trend that will reverse itself in this industry.

northArrow
northArrow

Don't we hear this same song and dance routine from experts at the beginning of every new console generation?

RSM-HQ
RSM-HQ

It's nice these research officers have capricious opinions on the future of gaming, quite grave however these exact same people receive pay regarding an opinion which seems sceptical at best. 


Do they even research the gaming market? 

neprisistates
neprisistates

Hmm I am wondering how are they gonna handle 4k resolution at 120fps (curent titanx2 can do this) or better?

This cloud bs is just that BULLSHIT, streaming games is another pile of bullshit. Proper gaming will always require dedicated hardware.

YukoAsho
YukoAsho

@neprisistates  Pretty much.  I expect this to be a longer generation, but with Hollywood already eyeing 8k resolution, there's going to be a market for dedicated consoles in the future as gaming follows suit.

Eldeorn
Eldeorn

@neprisistates Some people just loves the ego boost they get from pretending that they can predict the future. Stupid is what they are for not even being able to understand the present. If anything is going to kill console gaming, it is the suits and execs with their wonky ideas, not a lack of demand for proper gaming hardware and games.

Sure, there are more people playing casual mobile games than there are console gamers, but that doesn't mean they have to abandon one for the other. Same goes with services. Gaikai and such is not what most gamers is asking for, we just want lag free, high quality gaming fun online AND offline.

And NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SOCIAL all the freaking time! Multiplayer is good, seeing ghosts in Dark Souls is good. Automatic spam about "Hey I took the first boss!" is pointless. I want to type or say that myself to start a discussion. If the game does it for me, it isn't social at all, it's just an advertising tool.

MigzBR
MigzBR

The could will play a big part going forward, but I dont doubt we'll see some kinda of consoles releases in the future. Even if they are cloud based. I feel like there will need to be some sort of hardware to connect you to this services. 

ryanc22
ryanc22

I love how people commenting on that this is B.S have no experience in the video game industry, other than sitting on their ass and playing games.