Feedbackula - GTA V Review Revulsion

We reviewed Grand Theft Auto V recently, giving it a very impressive 9/10. This made a lot of our community furious, and Johnny has a thing or two to say about it.

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Johnny wades through the very best (and worst) of your comments to find out what's getting the gaming community talking.

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Damn, this reminds be when that whole Mass Effect ending went viral. Ahhhhhh.............. memories..............:)

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God...The score wasn't the problem you jerks, It's Mr. Petit wanted to push an agenda in the review. That, That is what some of us dislike.


The review was done to get hits...and boy, oh boy...You got the hits.

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@Video_Game_Czar What, you don't like it when someone pushes an agenda? You mean she tried to hide it? Really? Well, at least we agree that she's a great reviewer.

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@Video_Game_Czar This is the type of shit that needs to stop. Mr. Petit? **** you, you scumbag piece of shit. And the six troglodytes you liked your post.

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I think 9/10 was a fine score, and I think Carolyn's opinion was valid and legitimate. But if it had any relevance on the score (as it was listed as a detriment, but we can't be too sure) then I think that's slightly questionable. I think the opinion itself was not out of place and it does fit well in the context of reviewing a medium of entertainment that's almost considered a form of art, but it's just something thats a bit of a grey area in my mind.


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Politics in games, games accepted by the broader audience, games as an art medium....


Remember when games were just about having fun? Yeah.

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@QQabitmoar And remember when women were just about cooking and making babies?

Times change. Learn to adapt.

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@JBStone1981 @QQabitmoar Learn to adapt? Ok so you are saying to go out and force them back into the kitchens? Ok...if you say so....

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@Uangry @JBStone1981 @QQabitmoar No, idiot, I'm saying get over the fact that games are more than just mindless escapism.

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Are you fucking kidding me? This weeks Feedbackula was wasted on Grand Theft Auto. Hasn't there already been enough article and videos posted about that stupid game? **** you Gamespot!

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@Butt_Chunx They don't make feedbackula videos about feedbackula videos, sorry buddy.

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Couldn't have said it better Johnny; the level of rage over a 9/10 score and Carolyn's opinion has been absolutely outrageous but will it ever stop? Not likely because there exists no efficient system for preventing these comments from going live, be it on GS or indeed across the entire internet. Ban someone and they'll just do it all over again in another account.

I'm not encouraging you to mention more deceitful comments but don't give up on this show! Maybe if you mentioned more constructive and positive comments then maybe people would stop and take note in the future.

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@nocoolnamejim No, the kinds of comments made about Carolyn have never been glorified by Feedbackula.

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Edited By Skrillbak

An absolute Home Run, Johnny.

It's sad that a critic cannot give a game criticism without receiving hatred and personal attacks. We see people fight over games being art and wanting them to get the same recognition then they have to undertake the same criticism. If the game tackles political satire but doesn't do it perfectly, or missing the point at all as I've observed in the game, then it isn't perfect. Story is a feature of the game and it falls flat at times and is over the top for over the top's sake at times. That said, there are a minor issues in my mind that keep it from being a 10/10. Then again, that's my opinion.

GTAV is amazing. It is something that should not be missed. It is not perfect for a number of reasons but is amazing. A real 9/10 by my book. Would giving it a 10/10 have made the game better and covered up those issues and flaws? No. Just because it is an outstanding game in an outstanding series does not hold it above criticism or entitle it to a higher score. Everyone can have a different opinion over the game without them being wrong. Conflicting opinions does not necessitate that one is right and the other isn't.

It's sad to see our community explode into juvenile anger and hatred over something and not have a real discussion over it. The point of Gamespot and us as a community is to bond over our love of the gaming media not to give us a forum for who can be the biggest loudest hate monger.

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I'm with you, Carolyn and Johnny, and I'm unsure if I'm going to play this game.

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What a crappy episode of Feedbackula.

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Edited By joshphillips

@DankDutch Agreed. I thought Feedbackula was about not taking things seriously and just about having a good time at the expense of others stupidity. Also how is personally attacking commentators any different from the personal attacks they are doing? People need to lighten the **** up. Yam is frowning on us all with dribble like this.

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@joshphillips When people say the things they said about the reviewer, they open themselves up for criticism, so let's not pretend Johnny is doing what the idiot scumbag commenters were doing.

And Feedbackula deals with the community. This time, the community went too far, and it was addressed.

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@JBStone1981 I was not aware that i'm part of a uniform army of "scumbags".

I sincerely hope the kind of toxicity you display is what Gamespot means to moderate in the future.

I harbor no ill will towards gender debate or Carolyn Petit as a person. I just think its strangling the industry thematically because we see so little else. Whatmore, i find Carolyn Petit lacking in literary and analytical skill. She has a tendency of applying gender analysis where it just doesn't fit and chooses to shoehorn it in instead of just altering to a more fitting focus. Her lacking piece on The Last of Us is a good example.

I think you're unhealthily invested in this and i'd advice you to stop attacking me as a person and discuss the subject at hand instead. That was, ironically, also was this weeks Feedbackula was about.

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@Dovahkiinknight @joshphillips @JBStone1981 lol XD True, but I did kill him in the game so doesn't that make me the bigger badass?

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@joshphillips @JBStone1981 you no but vaas already told me! so dont quote a guy who is more badass then you !

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@JBStone1981 @joshphillips Blah all this episode has done is bring even more trolls out of hiding. Negative=Negative. Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?

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@nocoolnamejim Feedbackula in no way glorifies the kinds of comments made about Carolyn after her review. "FU Gamespot" and "FU developers" is typical, innocent idiocy; what the scum said about the reviewer in this case was beyond the pale.

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well all I gotta say is that she didn't say anything bad about the game except for the bad portrayal of women in mine opinion was the reason in got a 9/10 just fyi

ALSO this show does encourage ppl to make stupid hateful comments cause that's how you get onto the show so sorry johnny I think you did contribute to it

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Personally I don't think any game should receive a 10/10 ever. In my eyes that's a perfect score, and it should be unachievable because there is always something that could be improved, in any game. That being said, gamespot is notoriously hard on games, (which I personally like) and ign is overly forgiving. That being said all a review really is is someones opinion on something and we are all entitled to our opinions. you do not have to agree with this review or any review for that matter.

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@Sniperwire I sort of agree but at the same time not at all. There is ALWAYS something that could be improved in a game. It is impossible to make something perfect and that should be kept in the mind of the reviewer and the person reading the review. If a game is reaaaaaally f-ing good, for its genre, and only has got a feeeeew problems it deserves a 10 imo. Like you said, there is ALWAYS something that could be better in the game, and since that is the case close to perfect should equal 10/10, since actual perfect is impossible.

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@nocoolnamejim All hail the moderator golden rule. :P

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@Synthia @nocoolnamejim

Heh. I should probably add that the preceding comment was my own personal opinions and in no way representative of Gamespot as a whole. :)

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@Synthia @nocoolnamejim

I know. I'm just teasing. Something a lot of people need to learn to grasp is you really can say just about anything you want on the site so long as you phrase it in a mature and calm manner and attack the point and not the person.

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@nocoolnamejim It's cool I got your back. ;) You were respectful about disagreement, so you're fine.

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You tell em Johnny.

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Really caught off guard by Johnny's change in tone, but I guess I would be f**king pissed too if one of my colleagues was verbally attacked. Criticism of a game-review and GS is one thing, but no one has the right to attack someone personally, our community went a lil' too far this time.

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@UrbanTracker Drop the mic and preach it, brother!

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@UrbanTracker Is the internet what do you expect?

Instead of focusing on all of "those" people how about you focus on the top comments?

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I support you, I like your reviews.

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true that every reviewer has their own opinion but bringing politics into a review is stupid. If the game isn't fun or there are some technical issues then fine, dock the game, but complaining about the way the game potrays women???That is a new fuking low for a review.

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@blaznwiipspman1 You mean there have been no reviews in the press mentioning the way this game (or any other GTA game) portrays women? Which rock do you live under?

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Geez, when was the last 10/10 game released. It most have been decades ago. It must be such a rare site like big foot or something. Bottom line, in every game now and in the future, their will ALWAYS be something the critics find flawed about a game. I'm sure it probably is part of the reviewing SOP.

If that were true, then there will never, ever be another game with a 10 rating. Maybe they are maxed out at 9, kind of like a 9/9. No one would be upset if that were the case.

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Edited By oo7superdave

Great Feedbackula !!!! one of the best.

Now brace yourselves everyone the game isn't even worth a 9 out of 10. I hope the online mode is good.

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Too much rage from people about the review, hey guys, relax, 9 was good for the second greatest game series in the decade.

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Everyone beware of IGN! They have GTA5 Spoilers on the front page of their site. FYI

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