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@berrlett: lol

1. Lots of people may have missed out on amazing games like Dead Space, Red Dead, etc during last gen

2.500 dollars has nothing to do with it... people are playing back compat on 199$ Xbox One S's

3. What brainwashing? I own a switch, a PS4, an Xbox One and a Gaming PC. I do multiplats on Xbox because live and visuals are best on Xbox One X, and because ive been burned way too many times trying to run 4K in certain games on PC. I simply cant afford to upgrade GPU, and have to upgrade motherboards when a new gen processor comes out, have to deal with unoptimized games (Watch dogs 2 was a WASTE for me, despite being an incredible game, it was broken on PC ).

4. Most gaming fans play multiplats. I.E Witcher 3, Far Cry 5, Fallout 4, AC Origins, etc etc

All the games I named above run barely better than base PS4 on my pro. Why should I invest in multiplats on pro when the X version is anything between 40-60 times better in resolution, high frame rate modes and textures, effects? + I can game capture in 4K 60, and on pro id be stuck on 1080p 30?

Ive been gaming since 1998. I LOVE games. So please dont be condescending when you cant see that all platforms have their strengths. I just wrapped up GOW and it was AMAZING on my pro. But thats all that my playstation is good for anymore. It will collect dust til spiderman. And then into the next year. Multi plats will take my attention on Xbox, and my PC is left with steam fun.

Seriously, lol

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@berrlett:

Instead of saying 'What' like 6 times without making a legible argument if you dont agree with me, why not do something more productive?

I spoke on things from a consumer point of view.

You imply that Back compat doesnt matter? Xbox did all console gamers a huge favor by showing companies its value. This is why Sony will most likely make the next Playstation backwards compatible.

Obviously, since you had no arguments to offer, lets just look at it in a summative way. Xbox does not have the sales advantage but is still a big success with its huge playerbase.

Xbox DESTROYS PLaystation in terms of:

Game Experience, Graphics and Power for Developers

Online Services and Social

Game Library, Diversity, and Back Compat

Value for Consumers through Games with Gold, Game Pass, EA Access

The only thing Playstation brings are a dozen or so quality single player experiences, some of which have already come to Xbox due to Timed Exclusivity.

And for that one reason, owning a Playstation is great. And no, I wont sell it, not without playing GOW and the new Spiderman. Ive owned every single Playstation, but fanboys such as yourself need to look at the bigger gaming picture and call Sony out on their anti consumerism. Stop paying for Back Compat that does not work offline, or even work well online. Stop paying for an online service that has been hacked multiple times with actual user info being leaked.

Stop defending a company that refuses cross play and claims 'No one cares about Back Compat' and 'Cross Play cant happen to protect the kids from Nintendo or Xbox Live or whatever' and shows you the same exclusives 3 E3's in a row.

Sony is dangerously close to their PS3 Era arrogance. And you fanboys just swallow it up with a smile. Lol

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@graffitiheart: I think that this E3 will show a lot in terms of exclusives. Id temper my expectations, but I think exclusives is the only problem Xbox has anymore. They have a big enough consumer base to bring last year's PS4 3rd party exclusives to Xbox in better experiences - Hellblade being one of them.

Personally, I think Xbox as a platform is WAY more attractive than Sony right now. Multiplats really matter. Exclusives matter big time, but the best multiplats matter more to a lot of people. Especially in a world where a GTX 1080 TI is starting to cost a kidney. Even RAM prices are up. I was primarily a PC gamer. Not anymore. My GTX 1070 cant give me Xbox One X levels of graphics in many games.

But yeah, E3 will be telling. I can speculate that we'll see Turn 10's new Fable, maybe Perfect Dark, sort sort of Splinter Cell exclusivity + Announcement, Halo 6 as a massive PC and Xbox franchise with a return to its roots, Ori 2, maybe an unknown couple of AA level exclusives rather than AAA. I also expect Crackdown to be remodeled a bit, considered they delayed it right after the internet decided its classic cell shaded model wasnt good enough. All in all, im sure all eyes will be on Microsoft and they might win E3 this year again. Last year was a major win because Sony's E3 was just...well, maybe thats just my opinion.

I also think there is a chance for them to showcase Mixed Reality on Xbox One X. seeing as Mixed Reality is now compatible with Steam VR on Windows 10, I believe we are close to seeing it on Xbox because its a lot more affordable than VIVE, Oculus, or even PSVR. But this could be pushed to next year.

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@berrlett: Seriously?

I dont agree with most of what youve said.

1. Microsoft has an install base of over 40 Million easily on Xbox and obviously some amount on Windows 10. Exclusives being on PC dilutes console exclusivity but definitely is the most pro consumer and inviting consumers to Microsoft's ecosystem. This brings in money and good will. And obviously if it wasnt successful there would be no Game Pass. Game Pass is a game changer for console gamers, because theyre VALUE hunters. I love my games and ive NEVER played more games than I am playing now, and its all thanks to Xbox One X and services.

2. Multi Plats at Native 4K on close to highest end PC experiences. PC hardware is at an all time expensive and Xbox One X gives you a high end experience for an amazing price of entry. If i didnt already have a PS4 pro, I would likely watch a playthrough of God of War and be done with it. But i am not likely to buy my multiplats on Pro. Theyre low res when compared to Native 4K on my 4K TV, and theyre barebones upgraded from the base PS4. It makes no sense for me to invest in Sony for multi plat when the platform features such as Gameplay recording are stuck at 1080p 30 fps, when on Xbox I can record a full hour of 4K 60fps.

3. Backward Compatibility. Man. I cant tell you how amazing it was to play Red Dead Redemption at native 4K. A free upgrade for older back compat titles. Plus, what feels like hundreds of older Xbox 360 games that are classics and ive missed out on. Xbox is a value console. If you count the amount of overall available games including back compat, Xbox Games library kills Sony.

4. Exclusive Games. This is the only reason I own a PS4 Pro. And Sony first party games are amazing. I love them. Cant wait to play God of War, and Spiderman, and ive enjoyed the past couple years of Sony games. But thats about it. thats all i use my Playstation for. I just hope they can keep it up? Most of these amazing games are coming from a multi year investment from Sony. Last E3 showed us exactly what the biggest concern can be. I dont think that Sony can keep us this momentum of amazing, single player, AAA experiences because most exclusives lack big replayability features. I do not have any second playthroughs on any Sony exclusives. I buy, play, trade in and move on to the longer 3rd party games such as Far Cry 5, Witcher 3, Dishonored, Ghost Recon, Siege, Assassins Creed.....

10-15 hours of single player cant keep a playerbase forever. Horizon Zero dawn is Sony's ONLY exception to this rule.

As for worldwide popularity, all the sales charts show that Xbox One X has beaten PS4 Pro worldwide by a big margin. That being said, Sales arent everything and Xbox Exclusives also sell well. Battlegrounds sold a few million. Sea of Thieves, despite its reception was a commercial success. State of Decay 2 looks excellent.

You know what they all have in common? Theyre all games you can put months of time into and keep growing from.

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Finished Dead Space 1 and halfway through 2 using Back Compat....and going to buy Dead Space 3 since its on discount. Amazing series. Love Back Compat for this. These games at 5 dollars are a steal. I hope they patch them to 4K

Sucks that EA killed Dead Space devs though

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Gamespot in 2018, not ONE mention of the Xbox One X version running native 4K 60FPS, Digital Foundry uncertain about Ps4 Pro hitting native 4K

Gamespot in 2015 : Every single game on og Xbox One runs in 900p and PS4 Godstation 1080p

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Okay so...Mira and Hibana are operators for rookies?

Gamespot, are you sure you guys played the game? Let me know

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Just give me Xbox One X update for my favorite shooter of this generation. Please Ubisoft. Ive spent a couple hundred dollars getting missed Ubi games since last week and i would LOVE a Siege and Watch Dogs 2 patch.

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Saw the opening hour of the game....the story seems unpredictable and VERY cool. Characters and atmosphere are great. Combat looks tough and high end PC and console users will love the visuals too I think. Want to buy it but just spent like a couple hundred dollars on that Ubisoft sale..:/

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Haha. I hate to see game devs fail but id say Cliff Blezinski is the only one responsible for this.

Step One: Overhype your game to the sky

Step Two: Sign exclusive deal with Sony when they give you ZERO marketing support

Step Three: Troll Xbox Players that made you who you are by supporting you when you were making Gears of War

Step Four: Change your mind from Free to Play to 30 Dollars and claim its better than 60 dollars cause 'thats BS'

Step Five: Low Playerbase for your generic shooter because Console exclusivity on PS4 gives you the same sales as Killzone

Step Six: Humility for Cliff