old technology being sold as next gen. we've been had.

@LaTOUNGa: omg ok this settles it... look at this. there's almost no difference.. in some places it actually looks more atmospheric on the PS3... jesus im selling my PS4...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIHH_PNwcVE

I understand that about the current gen games being upscaled. But when does that stop mate? I was wetting myself waiting for WatchDogs and MGS5 thinking (wow they're gonna be true next gen games that will look amazing)>

But again, because the developers dont want to lose out on the 80 millions consoles currently out there, they're making watchdogs, MGS 5 etc for 6 platforms. When do they stop doing that and focus on next gen? They're building these games on the old system specs and just sharpenings the textures etc, they're adding NOTHING at all new to the games size, detail, playability... nothing. Just a graphics increase... even the models etc still have heaxgon heads etc, and all the rounded objects are still in the shape of heaxogons.. nothing is round. You'd think with 10x more power they'd at least change SOMETHING :Z

omg ok this settles it... look at this. there's almost no difference.. in some places it actually looks more atmospheric on the PS3... jesus im selling my PS4...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIHH_PNwcVE

OK can you guys help me here? i've spend 500 euro exactly on PS4, Killzone shadow fall and Assassins Creed Black Flag.

I have a couple of problems so far.

1) I though next gen meant next gen.. where id turn on a game like assassins creed black flag. Knowing that the PS3 only has 256mb of ram, id see a MASSIVe increase in texture detail because of the amazing amount and speed of the new systems ram.. but no.. literally, it looks almost the same... like not even worth the upgrade. There's still jaggies everywhere, there's still low res textures all over the place. The people's faces look like thy're all sick with some hideous disease, and the amount of mesh's underneath the textures that havn't been smoothed out is heartbreaking.

conclusion to part 1. I've payed 460 euro for assassins creed to look approximately 15% better than on my ps3. That massive boost in memory, memory speed and CPU performance offers me NOTHING gameplay wise over my PS3 version. Is this a joke?

2) It's clear that black flag and the like of those games have been designed and build for the 360 and PS3 and then simply upscaled in certain areas to look a bit better for the new consoles. Literally thats what they've done. So i thought "well killzone is exclusively made for the Ps4, so this should be amazing.

i was flabbergasted when i turned on KZ shadowfall... Literally i was looking around thinking wtf have i paid for? again, im using a "10x" more powerful system, a next generation console with futureproofing for at least 5 years, and it hardly looks that much better than KZ3.. run up to any wall or look at the floor anywhere and you can see that the textures are only slightly more detailed than that on the older consoles. They're still blurry etc. I'd say they increased texture resolution by about 15%. With 10x more power i honestly thought we'd be seeing photo realistic textures. Im devastated.

Look at the first image here that you can slide the slider on for Assassins creed. Comparison between the xbox360 and Xbox one version. WTF is next gen about that?? there's nothing different, it only barely looks any better.. seriously.

3) Why have i paid 500 euro's for a 10x more powerful console, when they've just continued making the same games. They havn't thought "Right, let's boost the content in these games massivley so they'll be blown away by the pure scale of how powerful these machines are, let's add all these amazing features and effects to melt their minds".. no.. they just continue to make the same games. EXACTLY the same. Same size, same stories, same gameplay, slightly better graphics. There's nothing next gen... i've paied 500 for 15% better graphics and nothing more.

What are my advantages in having a PS4 over a PS3? 15% better graphics, is that really what they've done to us?

Anyone who says call of duty is a 14 year old kid who has spent the last 2 years watching youtube video's of people like XJaws and just copying his tactics and having ZERO input into games, and no ideas of their own are idiots.

Metal Gear Solid and Mass Effect 2 are obviously the best

Hi there,

Just wanting to know if you guys think that game's developer pay off the likes of gamestop and IGN etc?

I mean i was reading through the review for killzone 4 and just bought a PS4 today and Killzone and i was devastated at how little of an improvement there is. If this game was released on the PS3 and not the PS4, people wouldn't even know the difference. There isn't a SINGLE thing better than what you can do with a PS3 in this game apart from a slightly bigger and more detailed city. The character models (and especially their faces, when the kids dad is talking to him i was actually cringing at how bad it looked, like literally snake in MGS4 from 7 years ago actually looks better). are a step backwards from the likes of MGS4 for instance. The textures are sub par also, sound is rubbish. Firing a gun sounds like hitting a trash can a bang of a sweeping brush.

If these review sites were genuine they would have given killzone a 3/10 and said something like "they're making us pay 440 euro for a next gen console, and then releasing current gen games on it. There's still the same amount of low res tectures in the environments, there's still alot of jagged edges, and the heads and surfaces around the edges of anything round still look like an english 50 pence piece.. they should be ashamed of themselves".. im completely gobsmacked. I feel like i've been ripped off.

And apart from that, how come EVERY single stupid little indy game that comes out get's an automatic 8 out of 10? and some even get 9's out of 10. I've never seen an indy game get less than an 8.

So im searching for high rated games on metacritic etc to buy, and 5 of the top 10 "BEST" games of the moment are bloddy weird indy platformers that you get bored of after 5 minutes.

Like that SPelunky game. the review sites are hailing it as the most amazing game of our generation. When in the 90's there was 10 of these games coming out a week on the SNES and megadrive that were more addictive, all of the platformers were better than this.

Like any of the 8 out of 10 indy games are the same rating ot higher than like Dark Souls... (simple amazing game) Resistance 3, Crysis 2, Amnesia!??? Sleeping dogs, Alan Wake, castlevania, Spec ops the line... These amazing games are being put with lower scores than a badly drawn platformer where you just hop around doing nothing in particular lol.

Im amazed.

I wonder how much they give the websites per point added to the score?

@Zelda187: me too! but don't forget the 2 MGS games also. That will be me sorted. It's a shame that 90% of the gamer's nowadays are CoD multiplayer clones. Literally millions of copies of basically the same Let's player. They just watch some guy who's great at the games on youtube, then proceed to build their soldier identically to that of the one the great guy uses, and just tries to do everything he does, camping the same spots, using the same weapons, same perks etc. I mean, every single game you'll see a least 1 bellend trying to tomahawk across the map in Black Ops 1, and you'll see another guys trying to do jumping 360's to kill someone. I mean, noone online has a brain anymore. They don't play their own game, they just are clones. So titanfall is going to be a great game, ruined by people getting too good because they'll be watching youtube video's of amazing tactics befor they even power on the machine. So the fun of a new game coming out is wrecked. No more 16 noobs fumbling around the place having great fun, just a noob guy trying to learn and have fun, and 15 clones headshotting and tomahawking at lvl50 from across the map on the day of release because they've already played 1000 hours of the game in Beta... f*ck this world.

Man i loved FF7, i spent months completing the game to what i considered to be 100% completion (killing every monster in the game by scouring the entire world map and collecting all the items they drop, any items they can be morphed into) I even went as fasr as leveling up 1 of each materia for all the members in my group... lol. Beat all the weapons, side games etc.

I don't understand how X is so popular, it seems like such a strange pick for people to think that. The characters are just SO forgettable, They look ridiculous, they look so stupid i'd be embarrassed if someone caught me playing it. It doesn't feel like FF, it feels more like a Star Ocean game or something like that, it's lost ALL of the final fantasy stuff. The voice acting is terrible, the main character is just idiotic, that stupid ball player guy who's always there with the big hair is just an embarrassment.

I thought it was a joke at first that people were saying they liked it. The story is totally stupid also, and the whole game revolves around pretty much the most stupid sport ever to be created.. i played the game for about an hour and a half, turned it off and traded it in.

Bare in mind that i'd come from playing to death 4 exceptionally high quality games in FF6, 7, 8 and 9. And i would consider 9 to be my favourite. 10 literally to me doesn't even look, feel, sound like an FF game.. honestly it reminds me of something that should be called Star Ocean! People are so shallow and fickle. They don't want tragic amazing stories, they want dumbed down colourful rubbish (just look at the music in the top 100, there's not even a SINGLE band that actually play instruments, it's all voice synthesized repetetive rubbish)>

My 3 cent!

Is it just me, or is Killzone 4 not even the slightest bit better than what we've already seen so far on the PS3? Literally. The textures are about equal to those seen in MGS4 on the PS3 which is now almost 7 years old.. (2008). Like right at the beginning of the game when you're the kid, and you have to crouch through the little man made tunnet/cover thingies, look at the boxes on the right. Blurred low resolution textures. I thought the reason they used textures with low quality because they only had 512mb ram and they had to use it really wisely.

There's Literally NOTHING in this game that i think can't be done on the PS3.. Hell, id go as far as to say that the PS3 could probably do even better??

Also i thought there was FSAA?? all of the surfaces and edges have very noticible amounts of jagged edges.

I thought this system is supposed to be 10x more powerfull than the Cell CPU, and the ram is DDR5 (approx 3x more throughput) AND there's 8GB of it.. SIXTEEN times more than the PS3, and the ycan't even stick a high resolution texture in the game and make a box look better...

I think we're being ripped off. I feel like bringing the system i got today back i swear.

Apart from the city view being alot bigger than normal, this game looks about 10% better than a PS3 game... 10x more powerful, 16x more ram, and about a 10% increase in visual performance is all they've managed to squeeze out of it.. pathetic. and it costs me 70 quid...

The dev's shouldn't make another penny. But some extorsionate company taking advantage of the gap in the market and charging us crazy prices for games that are years old should?