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#1 stepnkev
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[QUOTE="stepnkev"]

[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"] But thats not true. Simply using common sense wont protect you at all, in fact, if history is our guide, common sense is usually wrong. you can avoid all of those websites and still be vulnerable. Microsoft Word only recently got rid of one of its biggest threats, and frankly, common sense isnt going to protect you from a man in the middle attack. theres no real way to be completely secure All it really takes is poorly written software, and if you use Microsoft anything, then you have a LOT of it.Atheists_Pwn

Wow - not sure what to make of this statement. Are you being serious??? There is nothing out there that is 100% effective in protecting from a virus, but to sit there at your keyboard and make a statement like this just lost your credibility in my book. One such example - if I check my email and see an email with an attachment which was not sent by anyone I recognize, there is this neat little key called "Delete". There see I just used some common sense to protect myself from a potential virus. It wasn't that difficult now was it?

Yes it was serious. Yes, thats good that you delete random emails. Theres literally thousands of different security holes that you probably never thought of though, so unfortunately common sense wont do it. However, if you get the chance to take some college courses on the subject it will definitely help you understand the field. man in the middle attacks for example, require very little effort. Someone just needs to be on your network and youre screwed. Common sense wont help, rather uncommon/informed sense will.

I used to be the lead System Administrator for the Terrorist Monitoring group at NSA. Sure you want to rethink your statement or do you get a kick out of making blanket statements about people you have never met before? I can assure you I am well aware of many topics in the area of computer security.

I gave one simple example where common sense would help which proved you statement false.

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#2 stepnkev
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[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"] if you look closely youll see that I didnt say thats the only way to get it. Theres too many ways to list, any kind of connection or exploit can potentially get it for him. All he needs is a file that exploits the software that runs it (for example, a web browser trying to open a bad JPG file) or even a connection to a website that logs ips for him, potentially he has a friend that is infected and if they share any file or even a usb stick hes potentially screwed. Theres so many ways to do it, and without knowing anything about him it would be hard to know which way hes most vulnerable. Atheists_Pwn

I never said he wasn't vulnerable I was making the point that if you use common sense you're not going to get a virus. These days the only people that get virii are those that hang around communities, and websites that those w/ common sense don't.

But thats not true. Simply using common sense wont protect you at all, in fact, if history is our guide, common sense is usually wrong. you can avoid all of those websites and still be vulnerable. Microsoft Word only recently got rid of one of its biggest threats, and frankly, common sense isnt going to protect you from a man in the middle attack. theres no real way to be completely secure All it really takes is poorly written software, and if you use Microsoft anything, then you have a LOT of it.

Wow - not sure what to make of this statement. Are you being serious??? There is nothing out there that is 100% effective in protecting from a virus, but to sit there at your keyboard and make a statement like this just lost your credibility in my book. One such example - if I check my email and see an email with an attachment which was not sent by anyone I recognize, there is this neat little key called "Delete". There see I just used some common sense to protect myself from a potential virus. It wasn't that difficult now was it?

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#3 stepnkev
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Sounds like your mom doesn't have much respect for our soldiers if she threatened to throw you out.

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It looks many comments was already left referencing this brilliant statement so I'll just do this instead:

:roll:

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#4 stepnkev
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Well, I'm not going to war with the US. :| As soon as you figure out how any of Jesus' statements support these types of actions, let me know. Until then, this has nothing to do with Christianity. It's merely people giving themselves an excuse for their actions by putting the blame on God.mindstorm

Pretty much this.

I'm baffled at how anyone can read that article and then ask "Are Christians going to go to war with the United States?" :roll:

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#5 stepnkev
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If you don't know why, have you asked your mother why she feels so strongly about it?

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#6 stepnkev
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[QUOTE="darkhadou"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

I'm not really an Atheist but I see it this way... If there isn't a God and something else happens when you die other than something to do with Heaven or Hell... Be it nothing, reincarnation or whatever. I am dead and have no control over that which I am not conciously aware of, so why should I care about something which wont affect me after I am dead.

Personally I am not sure what to believe and I will just have to wait and see what happens. I am sure that when I die I'll be all like "oh, I see how it is now, I wish I could post on OT and tell everyone"

linkthewindow

My friend, why take that huge gamble? Anyone die without Jesus, and it's hell to pay!

My friend, why take that huge gamble? Anyone die without Mohommand, and it's hell to pay!

Who's Mohommand??

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#7 stepnkev
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Heck no, chess is not a sport! It would be soo painfully dull to watch. michael_1234576

Only because you don't know how to play chess so would not be able to see what's going on. You may see pieces of wood being pushed around a board every so often where I see weak pawns, weak squares, preparation for a sacrifice that leads to mate or the win of material, a kingside or queenside attack, a queenside pawn majority which gives an advantage, and many other different advantages for one side or the other.

I would support it.

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#8 stepnkev
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wow - I don't even know what to say. I guess that's their choice. We choose for our son to go to school though.

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#9 stepnkev
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When I was an Agnostic, I never thought about it to be honest. Most of the Atheist's I speak to are the same way. I am very glad I decided to become a Christian though. Best decision I ever made.

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#10 stepnkev
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This isn't meant for another debate, I'm just curious of the results.

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Yes I do.