Ive got an x-box, but no live. And to be perfectly honest, I dont want live. All i get from live (on my games list) is multiplayer Halo3 and COD4. Im not particularly interested in either of these. I thought COD4 had a great single player, but i just dont like dealing with the xbox live community. It can be a real pain.

Plus, I feel like i dont need live to enjoy the best of what the 360 has to offer: Mass Effect, Assassins Creed, and Bioshock.

Normally Id be foaming at the mouth for anything that would make Halo3 worth half its price, but then i realize id need to pay for live to accomplish this. And then I realize that other shooters on the pc have better online play then halo3...for free.