Ike. What a waste of talent, Ike was on his way to becoming a dominant HW champ, would have loved to see him and Lewis fight. He is one of the main reasons for the complete fall off and current irrelevancy of the HW division.

I think Jim Brown gets proper credit, many say and believe hes the best RB of all-time. My pick is Barry Sanders who should be in the discussion as best RB ever. I think if you put Sanders on that Cowboy team Emmitt Smith played on his numbers would have been ridiculous. Even so, just looking at what he did on the terrible Lions he should still be in the discussion. Few, if any, looked as talented as he did on the field.

Silva should get big credit for this beatdown, Griffin is arguably a tougher challenge than anyone at 185, he's a great fighter, maybe the best, I doubt GSP will be accepting a fight with him anytime soon.

BJ Penn also showed he is just as dominant a fighter at his weightclass as Silva, Fedor, and GSP are at their weightclasses. His performance was very impressive as well in stopping Florian like that.

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I didn't say it was their fault. They failed cuz they didn't land him. I don't care what demands he had and what not, the bottom line is that this is looked at as a failure. You didn't get the best P4P fighter. It is a failure.

jfcundiff

If you mean by giving up 50% of the UFC to M-1, I doubt that is true. Scott Coker, the head of Strikeforce, said M-1 wanted to co-promote Fedor's fights only and only split the profits on those events. Here is a summary of what he said on CBS Radio,

"The rumor that M1 wanted 50% of the company is not true. Their definition of co-promotion is just "You have Alistar. We have Fedor. Let's do a co-promotion" (his words). Basically it's like in boxing. The co-promotion only pertains to Fedor fights. In case of Fedor fights it will be "StrikeForce and M1 presents". Coker said, "If the fights are great, everyone benefits" and proceeded to say: "When you have a chance to get someone like Fedor on board, hey, let's do it. Let's do a co-promotion."

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UFC fails yet again. Espurs117

How is it UFC's fault? Dana White is doing the right thing. Why the f*** should M-1 thrive off of UFC? UFC started out from nothing like every other organization, only difference is they're actually respectable and that's why they last more than two years.

Fedor isn't the one turning down offers, it's his management team.

Fedor will eventually fade into obscurity, sad because he's got talent. Nobody is going to take him serious if he's fighting StrikeForce fighters who leaves their arms open for submissions, and when you look at most of Fedor's fights, he usually wins by an arm bar. He's going to armbar everyone within 10 seconds at StrikeForce, this is disgusting.

I think it's safe to say GSP is now #1 pound for pound fighter, with Machida being #2 being as those guys really have absolutely no flaws and they continually face serious competition, not chumps.

I didn't say it was their fault. They failed cuz they didn't land him. I don't care what demands he had and what not, the bottom line is that this is looked at as a failure. You didn't get the best P4P fighter. It is a failure.

I think Machida will be P4P and champ for a long time he's just been so dominant at light heavyweight the premier weight class in the UFC. I don't think anyone can challenge him I'd like to think Rampage could contend, but Forrest dismantled him with the perfect gameplan and Machida is the master of gameplans and forcing the fight to go his way. I think Fedor is gonna finally slide down the rankings after strikeforce runs dry of challengers and that will be quick. I still think he's one hell of a fighter he took on a prime Noguiera and a prime Cro Cop, but I want to see him with the next generation of heavies and matched up with UFC champs at their best not Tym Sylvia or Andrei Arlovski who can no longer take a punch.

P4P is subjective I can see the arguement for GSP and he is a beast. He's the best wrestler and he doesn't even have a true wrestling background. His striking and ground game is equally dangerous. Fitch or Alves could easily be welterweight champs if it wasn't for Rush.
This is the true P4P tho :)JdmdrifteR1