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@Mr_Big_Boss lol

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@abHS4L88 @Nightrunner0007 Then I totally understand why you feel so refreshed by Nintendo today ^_^

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@abHS4L88 @Nightrunner0007 I likewise hope to see a lot of games taking advantage of the GamePad. On Wii there weren't a lot of games which took advantage of the motion sensors and I kind of missed that...

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@abHS4L88 @Nightrunner0007 I didn't grew up with Nintendo as well. Ok there was this Gameboy era, still I didn't had a gameboy ever. I've played most of the old Mario games in the era of N64 or so. And after the GC release I was playing N64 games. I just grew up with a C64 and PC's and played most of those old games on the PC's emulator. Still I got tired ;)

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@Nightrunner0007 In the end we can say that almost every console has a great potential. We can't deny the big success of Wii U in Japan. Yet there were some serious sales problems with games for Wii. There were not a lot of good titles comparing to others consoles, and some bad ports were among them as well. I only hope that Nintendo will fix this with Wii U. The second bad (in my opinion) move by Nintendo is that they don't want to work with "garage game developers" (aka Indie game developers) as Reginald Fils-Aime once said. I love indie games and some of them are at the moment the most successful games in the industry so it's 2x bad for Nintendo. 1st they could get a % of every sale and 2nd more costumers who would appreciate their hardware.

When I said why the bad sales are not surprising is simply because of some of above bad sales moves, not because Wii U sucks in general

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@abHS4L88 @Nightrunner0007 Yes Xenoblade is really something neat and fresh thanks for reminding us on that! It's not like they make bad franchise games but usually after a decade you get bored if there is like the 30th Zelda or Mario that's all I want to say. It's not a terrible error but at a point it gets old.

Paper Mario really is constantly very different still it's a game I had to force myself to play... Thus I don't like this franchise very much although Mario RPG was quite cool back then.

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@Nightrunner0007 I agree on that! I'm one among those Wii buyers who bought it because of some great exclusive games.

Well you listed games which are good but are not developed by Nintendo I was more thinking of some new Nintendo titles, yet ye good old abHS4L88 have listed some of em for us ^_^

I might buy a Wii U in the future when the price drops and if they'll have something interesting for me to play + a good softmod form the hackers xD

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@abHS4L88 @HydePark1980 Nintendo has a totally different selling strategy. They usually focus to make their console a family console. I don't know how much they succeed by doing this but one this is sure, some games are total crap :)

They have more family games then real ones, but hey 5 years old kids can't just start playing COD ;)

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@matthova It might be that Wii U will go the same sales path as 3DS

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@Nightrunner0007 They were evolving indeed (especially game mechanics) but some things never change. I would be more pleased to play a Zelda like game with a different title and story. Sometimes it's really boring to play a game when you know the exact procedure of the storyline. I like great stories in game, it's one of the major factors that keeps me playing. Maybe it's because I'm an adventure game guru :)

I really love the Mario, Zelda and other Nintendo series but at a point you get bored when you realize that everything looks the same. The Mario bros for Wii U are recycled Mari bors for Wii. I just love to get something fresh once and a while in a decade :)

I don't recall a fresh game series form Nintendo at all. Maybe you can remind me of them.