pretty much the same...i dunno, tho...I'm still waiting for sony to tap into the ps3's "vastly superior hardware" :( blame it on the incompetence of the developers, whatever...but i own both systems, and barring a few games, my ps3 just collects dust...i buy the xbox copys of all but the exclusives, because they don't look any better on sony's system, all my friend's play on xbl...and i bought the 600 dollar version, so this is kinda depressing...anyone who uses blu-ray pretty much has a new and better dedicated unit for blu-rays, so i ask you sony...did i buy your console for a few cool exclusives...or is your system still years ahead of its time?