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#1 atony12
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I watch it. I think Colton got a classic case of karma served up to him.
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[QUOTE="atony12"][QUOTE="FlippyMittens"]

Yeah of course I would not do it in a confrontation. What would pissing off a soldier do beside get me killed or seriously injured?

If I had the platform to espouse my beliefs, any influence I certainly would. I am already very open about my beliefs by publishing them online which is traceable and public.

FlippyMittens

Wow now your just an idiot on an internet forum. Ever since I've enlisted I've noticed there are 3 types of people. Those that say "congratulations and thank you for your service" which is the majority, those that just kind of shrug and say "well good for you" (typically older people), and then those that tell me "You've made the worst decision of your life why would you do that.. *long anti-war rant*" . Do those people piss me off? Oh yes I really just want to throw them through a window but I've never actually gotten into a confrontation with them. I just nod and say "Sorry you feel that way, have a nice day" and then I move on with life. We're not "professional killers" we are soldiers there is a difference that obviously your little brain can't comprehend.

Of course you would want to hurt me, you would probably get away with it given our country's favoritism of troops. As a troop you are part of the elite, good looking, powerful people.

I would love you to hit me for the chance to sue you. If I won the case I would make a video tape of me parading in your money while burning American flags haha.

Uhm anyone can be a soldier all you gotta do is volunteer. The only ones who can't are criminals or those that have some sort of medical problem. You make it sound like we are a dominant group of citizens but that's pretty much the opposite. Our pay is crap, we are constantly separated from our loved ones, and we all have a chance of dieing at a fairly young age. It's not a glorious life and we don't have any more power then your average citizen on the streets. We all have our own reasons why we volunteered but that doesn't make us "good looking, elite, powerful people". Maybe we're good looking cause we have to be in top physical shape and have nice uniforms but I don't see how that's an argument against us. Elite, yea we're good at what we do. Powerful, no we're not.
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#3 atony12
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="FlippyMittens"]

Nothing is anonymous, just because I do not want myself shot or assaulted by a professional criminal does not mean I have no courage.

Everything I say on here is recorded and traceable.

FlippyMittens

Anonymous for the general public...you obviously aren't as open in your convictions as you claim to be. At the end of the day, you should just simply say that you don't agree with the current policy of the United States in regards to Afghanistan. Like a grown adult would instead of coming across like a child.

Yeah of course I would not do it in a confrontation. What would pissing off a soldier do beside get me killed or seriously injured?

If I had the platform to espouse my beliefs, any influence I certainly would. I am already very open about my beliefs by publishing them online which is traceable and public.

Wow now your just an idiot on an internet forum. Ever since I've enlisted I've noticed there are 3 types of people. Those that say "congratulations and thank you for your service" which is the majority, those that just kind of shrug and say "well good for you" (typically older people), and then those that tell me "You've made the worst decision of your life why would you do that.. *long anti-war rant*" . Do those people piss me off? Oh yes I really just want to throw them through a window but I've never actually gotten into a confrontation with them. I just nod and say "Sorry you feel that way, have a nice day" and then I move on with life. We're not "professional killers" we are soldiers there is a difference that obviously your little brain can't comprehend.
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#4 atony12
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[QUOTE="atony12"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

By fair fight I think he means isolated bands of raging villagers, versus premeditated, planned and systemic killing of those enraged villagers.

The "official power" has a responsibility not to be ruthless.

Because it can afford not to be ruthless.

If the US wants to kill everybody in the world, it has the power to do so, 20 times over.

FlippyMittens

Okay I see your point. However the type of war we're fighting makes discerning friend from foe extremely difficult if not impossible at times. I do believe though that the US is doing it's best to avoid killing the wrong people. If you really want to see a ruthless style of fighting look at how the Soviet Union fought when they were in Afghanistan. There's stories of tank commanders using their armor to literally obliterate remote villages and completely wipe them off the map. And I do not believe we are like that at all. Have we killed innocents? Yes it is common knowledge that we have but it is unavoidable and I think we're doing what we can to avoid all these unnecessary deaths.

So we must all support the government even whilst the said government basks in the blood of the innocent?

Would you support the Nazi government if you were a German?

Well that depends. Are you going to look at WW2 as a war between countries or a war between political parties? I think everyone here would agree that it wasn't Germany that committed these horrendous crimes but the Nazi party that did. You can't sit here and ask "oh well these guys did terrible things would you fight for them?" Not all German soldiers were Nazi's, in fact the only ones that were was the SS. The rest of the German military didn't know any better, Hitler had them convinced they were fighting for the good of the fatherland while really he was running his own secret agenda. You can't blame the German soldiers at all for fighting in WW2 they were just doing as they were told and fighting for their mother country.

Same with Japan during WW2. It wasn't Japan as a whole building an empire in Asia, it was Imperial Japan. Not all Japanese were imperialists, but just like the Germans they didn't know any better and they were just fighting for their country.

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[QUOTE="atony12"][QUOTE="FlippyMittens"]

Our country has advanced military equipement and trained soldiers, we invaded their lands, they are a militia. Its not a fair fight first of all. Secondly drone strikes, COD cowboys who want to raise their killcount we have.

Our actions as a nation are despicablehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0

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It's not a fair fight! Did you seriously just say that? There is no such thing as a fair fight. Yes we do have certain technological advantages. The enemy has many advantages also which is why we are in a decade long war that still shows no end in sight. Technology doesn't win wars it's merely just a factor. The enemy has innovation and lots of it. They can make bombs out of household items, can hide them in everyday items, and yet make them lethal enough to kill many people whether they are soldiers or civilians. They know the terrain and if you think our enemy isn't trained then you are sorely mistaken. The militias may not be the most trained sure but what about Al Qaeda or the Taliban? They have used our own tactics against us with extreme effectiveness. They blend into crowds with ease. And they also have had success with experimenting with certain drugs that allow them to fight harder and feel virtually no pain.

By fair fight I think he means isolated bands of raging villagers, versus premeditated, planned and systemic killing of those enraged villagers.

The "official power" has a responsibility not to be ruthless.

Because it can afford not to be ruthless.

If the US wants to kill everybody in the world, it has the power to do so, 20 times over.

Okay I see your point. However the type of war we're fighting makes discerning friend from foe extremely difficult if not impossible at times. I do believe though that the US is doing it's best to avoid killing the wrong people. If you really want to see a ruthless style of fighting look at how the Soviet Union fought when they were in Afghanistan. There's stories of tank commanders using their armor to literally obliterate remote villages and completely wipe them off the map. And I do not believe we are like that at all. Have we killed innocents? Yes it is common knowledge that we have but it is unavoidable and I think we're doing what we can to avoid all these unnecessary deaths.
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[QUOTE="atony12"]I have lost family due to war however it wasn't as a result from collateral damage they were fighting as soldiers and gave their lives for their beliefs. I never said get over it but you need to broaden your views and look at EVERYTHING. You guys are both just straight dogging on America because it took you this long to get a taste of reality. I'm sure those that have lost family have taken up arms and devote their lives to opposing whatever country caused them pain and suffering. I never said they were wrong in doing so. But it's not right you guys focus on just one side of the conflict instead of looking at the conflict as a whole. From all sides. There is no such thing as good vs evil it's just one side vs the other side.FlippyMittens

Our country has advanced military equipement and trained soldiers, we invaded their lands, they are a militia. Its not a fair fight first of all. Secondly drone strikes, COD cowboys who want to raise their killcount we have.

Our actions as a nation are despicablehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0

It's not a fair fight! Did you seriously just say that? There is no such thing as a fair fight. Yes we do have certain technological advantages. The enemy has many advantages also which is why we are in a decade long war that still shows no end in sight. Technology doesn't win wars it's merely just a factor. The enemy has innovation and lots of it. They can make bombs out of household items, can hide them in everyday items, and yet make them lethal enough to kill many people whether they are soldiers or civilians. They know the terrain and if you think our enemy isn't trained then you are sorely mistaken. The militias may not be the most trained sure but what about Al Qaeda or the Taliban? They have used our own tactics against us with extreme effectiveness. They blend into crowds with ease. And they also have had success with experimenting with certain drugs that allow them to fight harder and feel virtually no pain.

Never underestimate your enemy because you will lose every single time you do.

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#7 atony12
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[QUOTE="atony12"][QUOTE="FlippyMittens"]

This, I am sorry they are bein so disrespekful to ya.

FlippyMittens

Nobody here is being disrespectful at all. This is a forum where people give their opinions. MY opinion is that OP is being extremely ignorant. Your looking at a fraction of the topic. Just because you believe some youtube video that is barely credible if at all about 1 country fighting a war doesn't give you much of an argument.

Just because you support the butchering innocent civillians, drone strikes that leave collateral damage does not mean OP is "ignorant". OP's post made me cry my eyes out, how can you stand there and say war is war get over it?

What if your family members died as collateral damage?

I have lost family due to war however it wasn't as a result from collateral damage they were fighting as soldiers and gave their lives for their beliefs. I never said get over it but you need to broaden your views and look at EVERYTHING. You guys are both just straight dogging on America because it took you this long to get a taste of reality. I'm sure those that have lost family have taken up arms and devote their lives to opposing whatever country caused them pain and suffering. I never said they were wrong in doing so. But it's not right you guys focus on just one side of the conflict instead of looking at the conflict as a whole. From all sides. There is no such thing as good vs evil it's just one side vs the other side.
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[QUOTE="Addict187"] Have you ever seen father's eyes after he loses his children to murder? Well I have not but I would guess all reason and caring would be wiped out of him. Then all he knows is rage and anger and add in suicidal as well FlippyMittens

This, I am sorry they are bein so disrespekful to ya.

Nobody here is being disrespectful at all. This is a forum where people give their opinions. MY opinion is that OP is being extremely ignorant. Your looking at a fraction of the topic. Just because you believe some youtube video that is barely credible if at all about 1 country fighting a war doesn't give you much of an argument.
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#9 atony12
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[QUOTE="zeldaluff"]

Um, yeah. The guy that asked me to prom did it in front of my entire class. I thought he was a bit of a creep but didn't want to be a b*tch and say no.

I know, not the same thing. But still, you should make sure that the person is probably going to say yes.

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That's horrible. You gave him a sympathy date? I'd rather just hang out with Jill then have a sympathy date.

No the most horrible thing a woman can do is when a man proposes to them (marriage) in a public place, they say yes just because they are in public but will later tell the guy no when they are in private.
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All I have to say is when they get their hands on a the Bomb and use it on you. You brought it on your self's Addict187
I'm kind of expecting something explosive to be lobbed at my general direction sometime in my military career. Do I think it will be a nuke? No but it's always a possibility in this day in age. This is the reality of the world, its not just America it's the entire planet. War is hell if you can't handle that then turn a blind eye like the majority of the world's population who think everything is rainbows and bunny rabbits.